Which is very odd, since Allen was moved to the PF spot this year. He also preferred to play 4. But the guy who played center graduates this year.
FB Recruiting Three of four Rivals analysts pick Bamba to Texas
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The difference is Bamba is already pegged as the 4th pick in 2018. I do not believe Zimmerman was ever viewed as better than 20s.
Next year, bigs are the headline.
I would love to see Bamba at UK. If he goes some where else UK has a lot more talent than some think. I hope Vanderbilt sends in his letter of intent tomorrow. Vanderbilt stole the show at the Hoops summit. He ran the floor, shot well along with free-throws, blocked shots showed he is an excellent passer. Outplayed M. Porter Junior. Porter caught him in points at the end because he took all the final shots to score 8 quick points. If we become a Transition team Vanderbilt will excel! Come join us Bomba, if not good luck to you. Look at the big men Coach Cal has sent to the league !
Vanderbilt and Sexton were the best players on the Court.
I'm thinking they think Bam will come back due to some people saying Bam fell out of the 1st round.. Just my guess..
So he if he waits on Bam this could take awhile, don't he have till like May 24th or something like that?
As I've said Cal is not the juggernaut recruiter he was 6 years ago. He's still the best, but it's dipped slightly. We need the prime targets like Bamba this system to work.
When he was at Memphis and then moved on to UK, Coach K and Self were not doing the 1 and done to the extreme
All the big schools had rosters with upperclassmen and Cal sold open spots every year and was not afraid to let Freshman play all the big minutes if they were good enough.
Heck, Freshman were not getting picked 1st every year and even the top players went to different schools. KD went to Texas, Oden to OSU, Rose went to Memphis, Beasley to Kansas State, OJ Mayo (huge at the time) to USC.
Once Cal had the platform of a blueblood, he could get the big guys and offer them the big roles and could have package deals to play with their friends and the top talent. Start looking at Drafts after 2010 and you'll see a lot more freshman and you'll see top recruit migrating to the bluebloods.
This.
Drew Franklin is solid on UK as well. He doesn't just throw ish against the wall. I'm not worried about what these dudes think, no offense to anyone.
He couldn't go anywhere but down. We still have the #1 class every year.
Yeah, I mean Skal and Briscoe didn't not live up to the hype, but Skal was the number 1 recruit and Briscoe was the number 1 PG lol.
I don't know if I believe this, but Texas beats the hell out of Duke.
Agreed. Richards is after all a freshman, and we won't know what to really expect from him until he gets on the court and playing against D-1 opponents.
I love Hump, he's a Cat after all, but IMHO he is not the answer at the 5 spot on any kind of regular basis. I don't want him to leave, but neither do I want to see him as our starting 5 next season either.
I'm usually on the other side of these conversations from @morgousky, but what I think he's saying here is that while yes, Cal is perfectly capable of winning with lower ranked guys, the problem is that now those guys often think that they should be in the rotation from the jump and taking off for the league in a year or two. That's the power of the machine that Cal has built - it's yielded incredible on the court results, but that one particular thing (preventing decent players who aren't stars from leaving) has become incredibly difficult.
Coach Cal is still the best recruiter in the game but it's arguable. In 2010/14 it wasn't arguable.
I understand Skal was over ranked. My point is Cal has lost way more recruits over the last 3 years than ever before. So many I'm actually not even going to start naming them. Honestly I couldn't see us landing Wall and Bledsoe together in the same class right now. I think it's a culmination of things but Cal is definitely a small notch below his 2009 version.
And we need top 5 players in each class for the best shot to win. That's my point. I don't believe OAD 10-20's can be enough in general.
Yea I think that's got a lot to do with it. I'm glad he's reaching for guys like Baker and Johnson. That's what we need. There's no reason for Cal to not adjust with the new era of OAD (others get them) He can do both.
I'll still argue that Skal being a bust was almost strictly based on A) the timing of him coming to college (off a full year off) and B) the way Cal tried to use him early, which broke his confidence and he never recovered.
Busts don't go to the NBA and show elite offensive skills so soon like Skal has.
Busts don't go to the NBA and show elite offensive skills so soon like Skal has.
The reason I haven't bought into the "misused" angle of Skals time here is because he really sucked at little things. Weak, couldn't defend, bad hands, low IQ, appeared at times to ignore instruction, terrible at boxing out etc. having him hit a few face up jumpers couldn't have done much imo.
Something was missing at UK. Not sure if it was coaching, confidence, the system? He's a totally different player as a pro. He finishes with authority. He moves without the ball. At Kentucky, he was almost scared of contact. Now, he goes right at guys who are bigger and stronger than he ever faced at Kentucky.
Cal is not exactly chopped liver in the charisma department.
Forgive me for not knowing, but has Bamba visited UK yet?
It's easy for us to scratch our heads on this one if he goes to Texas, but I do know there are ALWAYS two sides to every story. After what happened with Terrence Jones, this aint over even if the fat lady has soloed. Gonna try and sit back and enjoy the show. Seems like we are playing with house money already.
It makes me wonder if he held back at UK to avoid injury while waiting to get to the NBA.
I believe the relationship Bamba has with Quade Green helps us a lot too. Green has been recruiting him hard to Kentucky. I believe Coach Cal knows that Bamba is a big get for us next year to content for a Final Four and National Championship. I also think since UK has talked with Bamba on wanting to play the 4(PF) also helps us next year with getting Bamba. I think most schools looking at Bamba want him playing Center next year. Coach Cal is open for Bamba playing the 4 next year for us. That is big for Bamba!
But you act like we got everyone we wanted that year. Wall and Boogie were the stars, but Bledsoe was a late riser and was ranked outside of the top 20. He MISSED on Xavier Henry do not forget that fact. T Jones was a fight until the last minute. Remember when he missed Anthony Bennett and Shabazz went elsewhere fresh off the national title. Wiggins said no.
2015 we missed on some guys, but Murray ended up alright. 2016 Cal got the class he wanted, yeah we lost Bolden but I think 3 top 10 players with 2 other 5 stars was good enough.
I don't get where Cal has lost it, I can't remember a year where he got every player he wanted. 2012 we got the 2 best players and we're fortunate to have 3 very talented players return.
Yeah, the Skal year and the Nerlens year Cal missed a couple of guys he really wanted, but the late pick up of Murray was seriously an all time great recruiting coup for sure.
The Nerlens year I do think Cal got stunned a little that Teague and Lamb both left. Prob one of the biggest mistakes Cal has made in recruiting is taking Harrow over getting the best freshman PG of that year.
Marcus Smart and Kris Dunn were in that class. Were we ever seriously recruiting either?
Not sure, I really think Cal thought either Lamb or Teague would come back. I just wonder what sold Cal on Harrow.
I give up trying to explain the position.
CAL RICROOTS GOOD YALL. REAL AWESOMELY GOOD. GOAT OF ALL TIME ALL TIME!
It's really not that hard to figure out. I hate to say this about any kid, but the reality is he flat out quit. He had never been coached hard in his life, and when it happened, he went into a shell and packed it in. His goal became just get through the season uninjured and head to the league. Now he's playing for money, so it's different.
But let's be honest; he's in the perfect situation as well. There's no pressure there; no expectation to win. You can stuff the stat sheet without really doing anything special. He'll be a guy that puts up good numbers on a bad team. It will be interesting to see how he reacts if he ever gets on a good team and there are actual expectations.
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