I assume this was a response to me, my point is that to blanket say taking juco's means your bad at recruiting is not true and not an informed thing to say. Forget UL they can take 1,000,000 juco's my point and the one you fail to respond to or refute is that every year Bama, Aubrun, Texas, every other top 10 team takes multiple jucos. So is Alabama not recruiting well?
This class may not out rank UL's class
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oh no, you didn't go there. you're going to be put on the ignore list of most posters and called a UL fan for saying that. How dare you question anything. Those are the things I've said all along. Better coaches, schemes, and tactics can win you ball games against teams with more paper talent.
Fact is Neckbracetrino is scum and UofLsucksville and their fans are drinking that koolaid but they will all be jumping off a bridge when he splits like he all ways dose. I agree, looserville just won the ACC and their major bowl game (accordIng to their delusional fans) they should have had a top ten class cause all the best want to come play there. Instead they go after the woman bashers, pot dealers, low life's that no one else want and their class is only four spots ahead of us. Pathetic.
Lockedup and the rest of you dimwitted dirty bird fans need to stay over on your board and discuss your team's issues. We don't need you coming here trying to correct our opinions and justifying your existence. See ya good riddance.
Lockedup and the rest of you dimwitted dirty bird fans need to stay over on your board and discuss your team's issues. We don't need you coming here trying to correct our opinions and justifying your existence. See ya good riddance.
Same thing with UK basketball. A few seasons of top recruits and then we are disappointed with a guy in the #30's.
2012 - #63
2011 - #62
2010 - #50
^^ This group is on its way out the door^^
2015 - #35
2014 - #17
2013 - #29
^^ This group just got here ^^
See the difference? That's why I am not worried about whether we are #29 or #30, I am more concerned whether we are #30 - 40 or #50 - 60
plus a lot of us forget about the talent that Stoops has red shirted regardless of our needs since his arrival which we never did in the past unless they were injured. Building some badly needed depth.
We have 2 4*s, they have 3.
We have 7 5.7 3*s, they have 3
The star average and points work out to be similar, but I wouldn't trade classes with them at all. And I'm sure if you did a blind comparison that most everyone, regardless of fan allegiance, would choose our class. The Rivals point system has its benefits, but we objectively have a better class
We have 7 5.7 3*s, they have 3
The star average and points work out to be similar, but I wouldn't trade classes with them at all. And I'm sure if you did a blind comparison that most everyone, regardless of fan allegiance, would choose our class. The Rivals point system has its benefits, but we objectively have a better class
I hear UL fans say this all the time.....there was no way they were going to let Louisville in the National Championship game with the schedule they played. NO WAY!
Well, not that bad a grade, I made about six points and you picked one to jump all over, I think that is close to about a 85% grade, is that a B or C on your grading system, a B in most of mine And did you bother to read the points made in the post just above yours, pretty sure Stoops had rather have the same level of talent as these guys in the third year in UK's program, make sense to you? Maybe not.
AND taking JCs is not a crime, some VERY good ones out there, lots of reasons, hopefully Bell turns out to be one of them, but Bama only took one this year, and he was ranked as the best DT in the JC class. He was also a 335# one, maybe that was because of their previous miss, guy named Elam, LOL.
My point is that SEVEN, one a 5.5 and one a 5.3, indicates a weakness in the previous recruiting, almost all schools could use one or two every year, and the 5.3 that UK took probably indicates a weakness in our previous classes also, and that is not to say all these JCs could turn out to be important parts of the puzzle.
But the fact remains, even with all the loss of momentum and de-commits, UK only signed two JCs and UL signed seven..
Pretty simple really, they (and their AD) need to be exposed as the cheating City College they are, willing to take habitual criminals like Willie that jurich vouched for, willing to hire huge cheaters like hurtt and keep him even after he is exposed, Strong not able to take the TU job he was much more suited for (they cheat too) because even they couldn't hire hurtt (how is their recruiting doing without hurtt?), last years class that had a child molester (FIRST cousin) and statuary rapist committed until they had to let him go, the three time loser Dyer that only ONE other Division ONE U offered IIRC despite his FIVE STAR talent, that didn't bother to pass his classes so he could play in the bowl game, the current criminal from Texas that probably should be in jail, rewarding the adulterer and abortionist with a big raise when the woman involved with him probably could have lived a life of luxury for 21 years if the child was capable of getting into college and he hadn't sweet talked her and arranged the abortion, likely the child could have gone to college if it hadn't been killed since I don't think Slick Rick has dumb genes, rehiring BP after he made a mess that took about four years to clean up and thumbed his nose at them numerous times, that also should have been in jail in Arkansas for misuse of public funds, ------
Man, there is a lot more, but I am getting tired of typing, and besides, it is embarrassing to have one sentence that long, just hard to stop when there is so much to point out, LOL.
Aren't you glad you asked?
Ask again some time, I can probably find some more crimes by then, new ones come up all the time, I still think jurich bought a lot of the favorable publicity from ESPN by playing a game whenever they needed a filler, especially the Friday night games that deprived high schools of money vitally important to their sports programs.
I thought Petrino wasnt supposed to be able to recruit at Louisville. I guess these recruits dont care who is recruiting them as long as they get their touches.
"South Carolina H.S. coach doesn't want Bobby Petrino, Louisville recruiting his players anymore"
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/south-carolina-h-s--coach-doesn-t-want-bobby-petrino--louisville-recruiting-his-players-anymore-003211597.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/south-carolina-h-s--coach-doesn-t-want-bobby-petrino--louisville-recruiting-his-players-anymore-003211597.html
7 juco's is not a sign of a healthy program. very few schools that rely on more than 2 or 3 as fillers have consistent success with k-state under snyder being the obvious example. juco's usually only give you a decent contribution their first year and then bloom their sr year. 7 out of 24 means that they only have 17 kids they can develop for 4 or 5 years. so those 17 kids had better pan out. when you take 20 to 25 hs'ers you have a greater chance to develop those kids with proper diet, excercise, strength training, and coaching... all of which may be suspect on the juco level.
its inexact so its pointless to argue now. they got us by a bit. but they always say wait 4 years to see how a class did. well i know 7 players they won't have their in 4 years.
its inexact so its pointless to argue now. they got us by a bit. but they always say wait 4 years to see how a class did. well i know 7 players they won't have their in 4 years.
Too bad that less than half of what you typed is not true, plus there are no crimes listed there.
Absolutely hilarious that you criticize Louisville for recruiting and dismissing a player last year who you claim is a child molester even though he was never charged or convicted. He was never allowed into the recruiting class. On the other hand, UK has a player STILL on the team who Louisville turned down multiple times (Tubman) and he is headed for rape charges.
Louisville turned down Tubman "multiple" times?
Yet, according to this very site, they gave him an offer.
Does your "inside information" trump that from this site?
Yet, according to this very site, they gave him an offer.
Does your "inside information" trump that from this site?
miracle7s posted on 2/4/2015...
I don't know how old you are but you do realize Petrino built UL into a national brand 10 years ago right? He took them to the BCS game in 06 and was one fluky loss to Rutgers away from having freaking bummy city college UL in the National Championship game.
Even if UL had beat Rutgers I'm not sure they would have gotten into the title game they were still in the Big East at the time, think they would have still gotten passed over by Florida, just because UF being from the SEC and UL not being in a power five conference at the time.
I don't know how old you are but you do realize Petrino built UL into a national brand 10 years ago right? He took them to the BCS game in 06 and was one fluky loss to Rutgers away from having freaking bummy city college UL in the National Championship game.
Even if UL had beat Rutgers I'm not sure they would have gotten into the title game they were still in the Big East at the time, think they would have still gotten passed over by Florida, just because UF being from the SEC and UL not being in a power five conference at the time.
I don't post much here after the season, but I do read it frequently. I appreciate all the info those of you who follow recruiting closely provide. Thanks. I wish we all felt a little better about things, but I'm not going to let it discourage me. Just have to keep moving forward, even if it's smaller steps, and a slower process than most of us would like.
It was very disappointing to read about all the decommit's, but I remember a post last year by our friend from Georgia who pointed out that when you start going after the guys that top program's are going after it happens. So in a sense it's a sign we're at least involved with better quality player's than in the past. Sure was a tough one losing the 5* from Kentucky though.
It was very disappointing to read about all the decommit's, but I remember a post last year by our friend from Georgia who pointed out that when you start going after the guys that top program's are going after it happens. So in a sense it's a sign we're at least involved with better quality player's than in the past. Sure was a tough one losing the 5* from Kentucky though.
The 5* from Kentucky was never coming to UK, I'm convinced of this. He had the chance to sign early so that he could help recruit and hold the class together, like Barker did last year and Drake Jackson is doing for next years class, instead he waited till the last minute and bailed.
This message board has many great fans that Louisville fans can talk football with but jauk you aren't one man. I understand everyone here hates Louisville with a passion but you take that passion to a whole nother level man.
You guys will be fine and i think you will see the payoff from stoops last two classes on the field this year.
You guys will be fine and i think you will see the payoff from stoops last two classes on the field this year.
Actually, Louisville had a decent schedule that year and would have went to the tile game over Florida to play OSU. The Cards beat Number 3, WVU. Number 15 Miami, and had wins over a 9 win USF team and an 8 Win Cincy team as well as a uk team that went bowling. Had the Cards beaten Rutgers, they would have had a top ten road win, since Rutgers was ranked number 9 at the time and undefeated. The Cards also had a win at K-state without Bush or Brohm, that K- State team also went bowling. Had the Cards finished unbeaten, there would have been a debate and scruntiny for sure, but they would have played in the title game over a one loss Florida team.
Not saying they would have beaten Ohio State that year, much less that one loss Florida team that did win the title, but with how the BcS was configured, they most certainly would have played for the title had they beaten Rutgers.
Originally posted by jauk11:
In the more accurate numerical rating it is very close
now where we had a big advantage before we added about three VERY
underrated 5.5s and our first two two stars at need positions, not just
two stars but a 5.2 (think Locke, Lindley, Neloms, etc, hopefully) and a
5.3 (Trevathan, etc, hopefully) so our numerical rating took a big hit,
while theirs climbed.
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UK's 5.5s are "VERY underrated" and the 5.2 / 5.3s = Locke and Trevethan. Nice job propping them up but honestly who knows how they'll play at this level. It's always a crap shoot and sometimes 2 stars end up being great players. Sometimes not. Not sure you'd give UofL 2 stars the same glowing endorsement.
Good luck! Looks like a solid class regardless of the numbers.
This post was edited on 2/4 10:42 PM by Stingray23
What about the Michigan team who up until their bowl game against USC only had one loss and that was to #1 ranked Ohio St., and up until Florida had jumped them were ranked #2. I'm not saying UL couldn't have pulled it off had they beaten Rutgers I just don't think it would have been likely. This, more than anything else is the reason I think Petrino left the first time, and this is why getting into the ACC was huge for you all.
Naga- you make a fairly good argument for what should have happened if Louisville had not lost to Rutgers, but not as strong argument as for what would have happened.
Money talks and a name school in a BCS championship means more money. One way or another, books would have been cooked, and Louisville would been observing Michigan or Florida playing the Buckeyes for the BCS title.
Money talks and a name school in a BCS championship means more money. One way or another, books would have been cooked, and Louisville would been observing Michigan or Florida playing the Buckeyes for the BCS title.
I guess my problem is that I hate cheaters, always have, always will, and it really intensifies it when the biggest I know about parlays it into a success story (probably temporary) with all the scummy tricks jurich has been responsible for allowing at UL. But I do agree with you that I think UK will turn out just fine, thanks, and that will make the fiasco at UL turn out to be a lot less relevant, incompetent NCAA (hurtt at the U AND at UL) in charge or not.
As for the other post:
"Too bad that less than half of what you typed is not true, plus there are no crimes listed there.
Absolutely hilarious that you criticize Louisville for recruiting and dismissing a player last year who you claim is a child molester even though he was never charged or convicted. He was never allowed into the recruiting class. On the other hand, UK has a player STILL on the team who Louisville turned down multiple times (Tubman) and he is headed for rape charges."
I have to assume that since you used a double negative to start with you mean that more than half of what I said was true, right?
Please spell out what I said that isn't true, no crimes listed? Wasn't a former UK basketball star player recently charged with misuse of public funds or some such crime? None of the things hurtt pulled at the U were criminal, at least contributing to the delinquency of a minor in some cases? Getting a 13 year old first cousin pregnant, ended by an abortion, isn't a crime, never charged or convicted means she didn't have to get an abortion? So, if you get away with murder, does that mean it was OK, no crime committed? Were you there, did you do it, do you want to confess, confession is good for the soul they say. And I would bet you dollars to donuts that neither jurich or BP had any part in turning him away from UL.
UL turned down Tubman, LOL, they aren't that stupid, a very exciting football prospect whatever else he is. Joker "turned down" a lot of the state's top prospects. Who falsely told you he was still on the team, or even in school? He is already charged with rape, UK doesn't sweep things under the rug, unlike some schools, AND he is not longer on campus, I think it is called house arrest or some such thing. Whether he is guilty or not is still to be determined and I don't know enough to have a solid opinion, but I doubt if he will be convicted from what little I do know, but I wouldn't be surprised if his UK career is over whatever happens
But then his UL career might just be getting started, seems like a lot of them start that way.
I'm glad I could entertain you, people that are hilarious are hard to find, but you really don't sound that happy with your free entertainment.
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