Think we have half court zones if needed?

[Kybluedude]

Have run some diamond zone full court press. I may have missed but haven’t seen any half court zone. Haven’t heard it mentioned at all.

I realize with particularly with Butler plus Oweh, Williams, Garrison etc we have good man defenders that a zone takes one of their strengths away.

However against some teams we might want or need a change of pace.

With a smart veteran team I would assume they could implement a couple pretty easy.

 

[Fox2monk]

Have run some diamond zone full court press. I may have missed but haven’t seen any half court zone. Haven’t heard it mentioned at all.

I realize with particularly with Butler plus Oweh, Williams, Garrison etc we have good man defenders that a zone takes one of their strengths away.

However against some teams we might want or need a change of pace.

With a smart veteran team I would assume they could implement a couple pretty easy.

I am sure we will. We now have a coach and staff that actually employs strategy to win games. If the matchup calls for it then yes, I believe we will see some zone.

 

[BlueBomb]

Well, it used to be that we only ran the type of offense and defense that would prepare our mercenaries for the NBA.
#generationalwealth
#playersfirst
#backofjersey

That philosophy fled.

So yeah, I think we'll now do what's needed to win games.
#frontofjersey
#kentuckyfirst
#Iknowmycharge

 

[know1]

Of course. Why wouldn't we?

 

[UKSanders]

Have run some diamond zone full court press. I may have missed but haven’t seen any half court zone. Haven’t heard it mentioned at all.

I realize with particularly with Butler plus Oweh, Williams, Garrison etc we have good man defenders that a zone takes one of their strengths away.

However against some teams we might want or need a change of pace.

With a smart veteran team I would assume they could implement a couple pretty easy.

I don't think that has to be the case.

If you are a good man defender, then you should be to apply that same skill in zone... i.e. a good matchup 2-3 zone where the top 2 defenders can communicate and switch or flip positions like if Butler is on ball, he can carry the ball-handler across the lane, and Oweh could just swap to the other position as opposed to "passing off" the ball carrier. In a sense, it would almost be more of a 1-1-3 b/c if Butler picks up the ball carrier, Oweh would just shift to the opposite of where the ball handler goes

 

[UKSanders]

Have run some diamond zone full court press. I may have missed but haven’t seen any half court zone. Haven’t heard it mentioned at all.

I realize with particularly with Butler plus Oweh, Williams, Garrison etc we have good man defenders that a zone takes one of their strengths away.

However against some teams we might want or need a change of pace.

With a smart veteran team I would assume they could implement a couple pretty easy.

Pope has also stated that he would even consider allowing Butler and/or Oweh to "lock down a man", and play some kind of zone with the other 3-4 defenders.

 

[runt#69]

This is a veteran team with a coach that is not philosophically opposed to employing styles of play to alter a game or work one into a gameplan that could be disruptive in order to WIN THE GAME.

I suppose one could make the argument that Coach Calipari, no matter how great of a hall of fame coach he is, is philosophically opposed to using zone defenses. And that's ok. Perhaps his real reasoning is that his freshman one and done players lack needed experience at a D1 level, that trying to teach young players coming into a system geared the way it is how to effectively play a zone, is counterproductive to what he is trying to accomplish.

So be it, for whatever his reasoning.

I'm happy to have a head coach that would play a 2-3 , 3-2, 1-3-1, box in one, triangle and two ... or dare I say .... employ a " stratified transitional hyperbolic paraboloid defense " .....

to win the game!

Sound familiar? Refreshed yet?

Go Big Blue !

 

[Indyadolph]

"Stratified transitional hyperbolic paraboloid defense" . . .

I see what you did there, Runt#69.
Nice job, Adolph!!
🤣

 

[bnewt]

Nice to see a pressing defense too, just as a change of pace

 

[UKSanders]

Nice to see a pressing defense too, just as a change of pace

yeah, even if it does nothing but delay the other team from getting into their offense, it immediately puts "pressure" on the offense to rush a bit... being out of sync even just a little is a when for the defense

 

[littlecreek]

Pope has also stated that he would even consider allowing Butler and/or Oweh to "lock down a man", and play some kind of zone with the other 3-4 defenders.

A triangle and 2

 

[littlecreek]

I don't think that has to be the case.

If you are a good man defender, then you should be to apply that same skill in zone... i.e. a good matchup 2-3 zone where the top 2 defenders can communicate and switch or flip positions like if Butler is on ball, he can carry the ball-handler across the lane, and Oweh could just swap to the other position as opposed to "passing off" the ball carrier. In a sense, it would almost be more of a 1-1-3 b/c if Butler picks up the ball carrier, Oweh would just shift to the opposite of where the ball handler goes

You have to use man to man principles in your area of the zone that you're positioned

 

[UKSanders]

A triangle and 2

Right either that or box and 1 if only one of them is staying man

 

[UKSanders]

You have to use man to man principles in your area of the zone that you're positioned

yeah, exactly. The better you are at man to man, the better you can matchup in your zone

 

[littlecreek]

"Stratified transitional hyperbolic paraboloid defense" . . .

I see what you did there, Runt#69.
Nice job, Adolph!!
🤣

I always loved playing a 1-3-1 in grade and high school. The look on the point guards face when he was coming across the half court was priceless, like "what on earth is this?". I also loved playing against it too. It seems like I got more shots from my position on offense.

 

[runt#69]

I always thought Cal put too much, an overemphasis on his recruiting purely based on young talent rather than a equal focus on the aspect of having veteran players at the DIV 1 level, especially at a place like Kentucky, where you are going to see everything including the kitchen sink thrown at you - as a coach.

He flat out got much, MUCH more talented, flat out great teams, and they lost because of exactly that. Got outcoached, a strategy and or gameplan that got them. West Virginia and Huggy taught Cal early, it sure was the 1-3-1 they couldn't handle, and a coach unable or unwilling - to make the necessary in game adjustments (and even HAVE his team prepared for, in the first place....) to ....

WIN THE GAME.

This is Kentucky basketball. Where is "The List ?" when I need it.

oh

Bucknell is what - win that and we're the first to win a total of 2,400 games ?

win # 2400 ? is that right ?

confirm ?

 

[UKSanders]

According to the site below, the program has 2401 wins

Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball Index | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Check out the Kentucky Wildcats College Basketball History, Stats, Records, Polls, Leaders and More College Basketball Stats at Sports-Reference.com

www.sports-reference.com

 

[jwphelps]

Have run some diamond zone full court press. I may have missed but haven’t seen any half court zone. Haven’t heard it mentioned at all.

I realize with particularly with Butler plus Oweh, Williams, Garrison etc we have good man defenders that a zone takes one of their strengths away.

However against some teams we might want or need a change of pace.

With a smart veteran team I would assume they could implement a couple pretty easy.

I would say so, Pope seems to be on top of all faucets of the games.