There is almost a feeling of embarrassment. Will someone accept a scholarship
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I think a lot of people, including some of the big-time recruits in the 2015 HS class, view Kentucky's failure to win the 2015 NCAA championship with nine McDonald's All-Americans plus Willie Cauley-Stein (who was not a McDonald's A-A) as an epic fail. It goes a long way toward shooting down the invitation to "come to U.K. and win a national championship." I suspect that it will take 2 or 3 years to outlive that notion on the recruiting trail.
Just MHO, of course.
Just MHO, of course.
no way. Unless we're losing recruits to duke any team they go to had a crappier season than we did. And I've always thought the pitch with Cal was "come to UK and go to the NBA (get drafted)" . Cal's certainly not promising any ncaa titles. If getting only 2 top-ten recruits and having a top 2-3 class is our "down" recruiting year...I'll take it
I'm thinking the embarrassment is a trolling OP. Top recruiting classes must really stick in your happy place like a thorn.
So basically this whole class has a secret wish to be forgotten in 10 months?
Cal has missed on Wiggins, Okafor, now Brown. He can't recruit the best of the best anymore, he's lost his touch. If missing on #1 guys wasn't bad, now he's missing on guys not even in the top 5 like Zimmerman or guys who were supposed to be locks like Newman!
not srs. In fact I am embarrassed that a fellow UK fan is "embarrassed" to only be getting 2 top 10 players and a couple more 4 stars...
not srs. In fact I am embarrassed that a fellow UK fan is "embarrassed" to only be getting 2 top 10 players and a couple more 4 stars...
I am embarrassed honestly. Newman and Zimmerman just made bad decisions. Simple as that. This is UK we are the alpha males of college basketball. Its these kid's loss just as much as ours. Newman will never be looked at the way he would have been had he came here. We'll get Murray and Diallo though so its pretty much just their loss actually.
Both wanted to stay home how can that be wrong? They don't really care about your opinion you know that right?
The NIT should be lots of fun for both of them.Meanwhile we will try to make an NCAA run.
Have to agree with Catfan on this one. Only OP's 3rd post and he comes up with this? I highly doubt OP is on any fishing expedition. Troll.
No offense, but that's bull. You need to look up the percentage of #1 overall seeds that have won the ncaa tourney over the last 30 years. The percentage is shockingly low. Remember the 1991 UNLV team, the 1983 Houston team with 2 hall of fame players, remember 1985 Georgetown with Ewing. The point is, the tourney isn't like NBA, it's not best of 5 or best of 7. So your argument is nonsensical. Going to 4 Final fours in 5 years is unreal.
some legally insane comments in this thread. is this a joke?
ulis
hawkins
briscoe
matthews
mulder
poythress
willis
lee
labissiere
and possibly murray, diallo or anyone left we're recruiting. it's not about hit and miss anymore. it's about gravy. skal is the #1 pick. duke ran with plumlee backing up okafor. we have a top team right now. lee, poythress, ulis, hawkins, willis all have 6 months of basketball conditioning ahead. we return 3 upper class man with deep tournament experience and could arguably have 4 top 30 picks in next year's draft. maybe more. it's a long time to november.
some are chomping at the bit here. if you guys think cal is circling the wagons with former players playing in the playoffs right now all i can do is laugh. this time the cupboard isn't empty. this will be nothing like 2013. briscoe alone is worth one tournament win. no one on that team came close to his talent with the the basketball.
ulis
hawkins
briscoe
matthews
mulder
poythress
willis
lee
labissiere
and possibly murray, diallo or anyone left we're recruiting. it's not about hit and miss anymore. it's about gravy. skal is the #1 pick. duke ran with plumlee backing up okafor. we have a top team right now. lee, poythress, ulis, hawkins, willis all have 6 months of basketball conditioning ahead. we return 3 upper class man with deep tournament experience and could arguably have 4 top 30 picks in next year's draft. maybe more. it's a long time to november.
some are chomping at the bit here. if you guys think cal is circling the wagons with former players playing in the playoffs right now all i can do is laugh. this time the cupboard isn't empty. this will be nothing like 2013. briscoe alone is worth one tournament win. no one on that team came close to his talent with the the basketball.
Anymore it seems like kids know they'll play one year and regardless if its st UK or anywhere else I'm one and done. So, why not stay home, because I'm going to be NBA ready regardless of where I go. These kids could care less about tradition, championships, prestige. Its about them. At UK, playing is earned, you gotta play defense, no one will take 25 shots a game. Of course, Duke winning it with one and dones showed everyone they don't have to go to UK to win one and be a lottery pick. We are use to turning kids away, makes me wonder now if the ones like Bragg that wanted to come that got away, if Cal wished he would've pursited them harder. After the run we've had I never thought it'd be like this. Just am thankful for what we have coming in. Think Cal is going to have to adjust, just like other coaches had to adjust to recruiting against him and the one and done philosophy.
That's insane. We've been if 4 of the last 5 final fours. Recruits have a better shot of winning a title here based on us always playing on the last weekend of the tourney and they know that. Its just an odd class. It has nothing to do with losing to Wisconsin.
Yeah, some are spoiled but are you not wondering what is going on with class? We prolly would be ecstatic with this class before Cal came but THIS ISNT BEFORE CAL CAME. This is after an incredible 5 yr run and 20+ players drafted. So, please stop with the whole "youre a spoiled whiny brat who doesn't remember what it was like before Cal" routine that many on here like to scream. Are you really not wondering what the hell is going on with this class? Cause I know I am for sure! I don't think its anything Cal is doing wrong by any means, I just think that this class seems different than those in the past. For everything that we have to offer the elite recruits this upcoming season in form of playing time, exposure, and COACH CAL'S ability to developed kids quickly, I just don't understand how recruits aren't lining up trying to get the scholly before someone else grabs it. The only thing I can come up with is that this class has a lot of "me" guys who want to be the man and Cal has made it obvious that this is not the place for guys like that. That's the only thing I can come up with but don't bash a guy for calling out what I think is obvious. Don't agree with everything that OP said but I think that asking what is going on with this class is an obvious question. I know myself and all my buddies are wondering asking this exact question and I'm sure as hell no troll, I can guarantee that much.
I think you are probably right but I also think the two platoon system is at fault as much as I liked it under the circumstances. We probably would not have brought in several of those guys last year had they or anyone else known so many of our guys were coming back. I believe the hottest players coming out of high school believe they should be on the floor as long as they are playing well and don't ask to come out. Most of them figure if they sign with us and others do the same, they'll be playing half games and sitting too much. That in itself probably spells the doom of two platoon, unfortunately. I will always believe Cal handled it right but I doubt you ever see it again.
Never heard that invitation before.
Then again, you may be correct. They are so turned off by Kentucky they are committing to other schools with the invitation, "Heck with Kentucky, come to (insert school) and make it past the first weekend".
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