Ok, so now you have 2 stupid statements to support. Go ahead and try kid.
The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)
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I guess you admit to lying about the use of nuclear weapons. Let's see how long it takes for you to admit your second lie.
You’ve been cheerleading for our support of Ukraine since day one. It’s been explained to you, many times, where that would lead to. Now we’re nearly there. God forbid it go any further.
But yet, you don’t seem to think you were ever in support of the logical endpoint to it all? You just assumed that bad things would never happen?
Yes, and it hasn't happened and won't. My opinion of you has been one of hiding under a desk trying to convince us all that WWIII is gonna break out any day now.
One can support Ukraine without it leading to WWIII. You can't seem to wrap your head around it.
This is how far this war has taken us... The US is backing islamist in Syria to hurt Russia and they are already targeting Christians. I hate our government soooo bad. They would honestly sacrifice US children in order to get a war with Russia. Just pitiful humans.
I haven’t seen yet where we’re supporting HTS. I know we support the Kurdish SDF which controls a small part of Aleppo. Where are you seeing this?
Russia brings misery everywhere and to everything it touches. Syria is no exception. Hopefully the Russian base in Tartus gets destroyed and Russia and the Iranian proxies get chased out of the country.
The cia backed ISIS... that is where they got their start. The reason Trump was able to take them out so fast was because the cia was scared to back them while Trump was in. I can go back and pull up stuff but I thought everyone knew at this point.
This is why it's pointless to discuss this with some of you. You still have 1990 mentalities when it's clear we are in a different fact pattern.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-support-isis/245868/
ashington D.C. (GPA) – Everyone knows U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East has more to do with destabilization than diplomacy. Whether arming terror states like Israel and Saudi Arabia or flattening entire countries like Libya and Iraq, American intervention is pretty much always a humanitarian disaster. At times, this policy has even included arming ISIS — the very terror group Washington claims to oppose.
The reason for this help is that ISIS assists U.S. foreign policy goals. It is no secret that the U.S. has tried to overthrow the democratically elected Syrian government for years. To further their goals, the U.S. regime has more or less aligned with just about every terrorist group short of ISIS publicly, including Jahbat al-Nusra.
Yet at times this alliance has extended past terror groups fighting under the Free Syrian Army banner. In many situations, the U.S. has seemingly supported ISIS. Whether these instances are mere coincidence or represent a pattern of support is up to you to decide. Below are five strongest instances of the U.S. helping ISIS and other terrorist groups.
ashington D.C. (GPA) – Everyone knows U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East has more to do with destabilization than diplomacy. Whether arming terror states like Israel and Saudi Arabia or flattening entire countries like Libya and Iraq, American intervention is pretty much always a humanitarian disaster. At times, this policy has even included arming ISIS — the very terror group Washington claims to oppose.
The reason for this help is that ISIS assists U.S. foreign policy goals. It is no secret that the U.S. has tried to overthrow the democratically elected Syrian government for years. To further their goals, the U.S. regime has more or less aligned with just about every terrorist group short of ISIS publicly, including Jahbat al-Nusra.
Yet at times this alliance has extended past terror groups fighting under the Free Syrian Army banner. In many situations, the U.S. has seemingly supported ISIS. Whether these instances are mere coincidence or represent a pattern of support is up to you to decide. Below are five strongest instances of the U.S. helping ISIS and other terrorist groups.
You’ve been wrong about every part of how this would play out.
Even now, with both parties lobbing long range missiles at each other, you seem to think that someone has control. History shows again and again that this is wishful thinking.
Prove me wrong. Ill wait.
This is why it's pointless to discuss this with some of you. You still have 1990 mentalities when it's clear we are in a different fact pattern.
I was wrong about it ending quickly, thats it. You're also welcome to prove me wrong.
I don’t know what this article is favor of or criticizing because I could get past the first two words of the first sentence. “Everyone knows…”
Writer lost all credibility by the third word.
The fundamental problem with the pro-war argument, setting aside its ignorance, naivete and logical incoherence, is that you actually believed that we could defeat Russia by
No, we are exactly where we are and exactly where were you told we would be by voices other than the media and your think tank articles.
I didn't necessarily think Ukraine could win, but thought/think that with the right resources they could stop them.
The West is playing with a bad hand and it always has been. If Russia had infinite resources, there would be no reason for them to not just talk the whole of Ukraine or any region / city they wanted. In that respect, it does make sense that the west bolsters Ukraine as to drive the cost so high for Russia that does not want to continue the war. However, with that, it shouldn't be forgotten that the end-goal is peace and stability. This stuff about "weakening" Russia or defeating Russia is non-sense imo.
What would the right resources have been? Gags for everyone openly talking about Ukraine joining NATO?
Certainly giving everything Ukraine has gotten over 3 years in 6 months while they were not so worn down & Russia wasn't as built up & organized would have made a difference imo.
No we aren't. Your subjective opinion thinks we're exactly where you thought we'd be.
How sickening. You post an "article" where the author is so credible they don't even use their name and worse, refer to Israel as a terrorist state. Is this your proof? Good lord.
You constantly pull this stunt of making a false premise and go on to make a false conclusion based on it. Then when you’re called out on the non-premise you are stopped in your tracks and get defensive. It’s amusing.
This is why it's pointless to discuss this with some of you. You still have 1990 mentalities when it's clear we are in a different fact pattern.
