The Petrino Culture

[SoulCat85]

This article shows how bad Petrino left the Arkansas program and will likely leave the UL program(AGAIN). "Ds For Degrees"

http://mobile.sportingnews.com/arti...dium=mweb&utm_campaign=http://t.co/2RqmqYuxF0

 

[Blueaz]

dang, good article...makes me want to root for those guys.
best line on petrino "he's an asshole, but he's our asshole"

 

[Onomatopoeia]

"This is just Arkansas beat writer trying to make Petrino look bad! Because they are jealous they lost him!"

No wait

"This happens at all schools."

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Wow, if that's not an indictment on the type of program he runs, I don't know what is. And it's not like the exact same thing didn't happen after he left UL the first time.

 

[DACats86]

False. He's a changed man. He caddies for his daughter and has a foundation. Totally different. (DWS)

 

[weezul]

Living in Louisville I can tell you he is at home with UL Athletics. They do not care one bit as long as they win and disruptions can be kept under wraps. I just heard yesterday how great their D was going to be because of the Georgia rejects they have now.
Stoops and Co. need to beat them unmercifully later this year.

 

[cathouse]

Public Enemy and Steelers in 5-4-3-2.........
I for one am very glad he is UL's ASSHOLE And not ours. Regardless of short term success (wins), Petrino's low class actions will not sustain a program for the long run. I love Coach Stoops and the program he and this staff are building from the ground up with a firm foundation of trust, integrity, and honesty. Something UL will never have as long as that slimeball is their coach.

 

[TBCat]

But it wasn’t just academics. When Bielema arrived, Arkansas was in the middle of a disturbing run of player behavior issues and had an average of one player arrested every 68 days.

Arkansas had two players arrested in the first three months after Bielema arrived, then went two years and five months without another incident. That’s an eternity in this age of athletes running afoul of the law.



Sound like any program we know today? That part alone says all you need to hear to understand why no Athletic director in his right mind would ever hire Petrino. This is why Mitch never even seriously looked at him. I hope the Petrinoites that were on this board 3 years ago now understand that. I would have seriously thought about not being a UK football fan if we hired Petrino.

Hiring someone like Gillispie was one thing because nobody knew ahead of time what he was going to be like. But hiring someone like Petrino when you what you are getting is another thing. If I am a university president I would fire an AD that would hire a guy like this.

 

[Blueaz]

Public Enemy and Steelers in 5-4-3-2.........
I for one am very glad he is UL's ASSHOLE And not ours. Regardless of short term success (wins), Petrino's low class actions will not sustain a program for the long run. I love Coach Stoops and the program he and this staff are building from the ground up with a firm foundation of trust, integrity, and honesty. Something UL will never have as long as that slimeball is their coach.

He won't show. He is way too important, doing MOD work at the linebeard's. He hasn't banned me, but he deletes every post I make. He is a little, power hungry, censoring bitch.
But no hard feelings. I guess I should have kissed his ass more...
(I know your lurking...got my name in your search?)
So, I got you something at target, it was on sale...two for one

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Living in Louisville I can tell you he is at home with UL Athletics. They do not care one bit as long as they win and disruptions can be kept under wraps. I just heard yesterday how great their D was going to be because of the Georgia rejects they have now.
Stoops and Co. need to beat them unmercifully later this year.

Lets get this right, JHC was not a reject, he is a dang good player and will help them. He would have started if eligible last year. He was dismissed from school by the school administration for failing his 3rd test. Wiggins on the other hand was told he would never take another snap at CB for UGA so he left, 5* ego, 2 * talent.

 

[Rhavicc]

Comical. My only curiosity is, what does it take to get in trouble in Petrino's football program? This is a man that will come to your door with flowers and chocolates if you just got out of jail for beating your girlfriend.

 

[Blouman]

I was hoping so much the UL would have to play Arkansas in their bowl game last season. Would've loved to see the Hogs stomp their asses. Oh well, Georgia did a nice job with the trash.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

This article shows how bad Petrino left the Arkansas program and will likely leave the UL program(AGAIN). "Ds For Degrees"

http://mobile.sportingnews.com/article/4652308-bret-bielema-arkansas-sec-razorbacks-playoff-petrino-wisconsin?modid=http://t.co/2RqmqYuxF0&utm_source=mweb&utm_medium=mweb&utm_campaign=http://t.co/2RqmqYuxF0

I think Bobby is one of the most unethical coaches in all of football. The way he handled leaving Louisville, the Falcons, meeting with AU officials under the cover of darkness behind his AD and AU's coach are some of the lowest things of a coach doing. But that deal at Arkansas, I just can't help but believe he was targeted by a sweet young thing who had a plan to fast track herself in the world of college athletics to an AD job somewhere. She was hired for a job she had neither the experience or skill to do because of some other "skill' she had. Speaking as an older guy, if a pretty young thing half your age comes on to you, at the least you are going to be flattered. Bobby took it to the next step, he has no morals or ethics, and in spite of being married he took the bait, swallowed it to his rear end and got caught. As much as Louisville thinks he is theirs, if a program he thinks is a step up calls, he is out of there as quick as he can catch a flight, its who he is.

 

[ukalum1988]

I think Bobby is one of the most unethical coaches in all of football. Bobby ... has no morals or ethics,. As much as Louisville thinks he is theirs, if a program he thinks is a step up calls, he is out of there as quick as he can catch a flight, its who he is.

You nailed it as usual Grumpy. To label Petrino a weasel would be to insult weasels everywhere.

I almost hope he just a modicum of success (just not against UK) so that some other school will hire him away, and that he slinks away in the middle of the night. At that point, UL will have gotten what they deserved.

 

[Brock28]

You sure we are talking about the Same Bobby Petrino? He would never do such a thing

 

[ktbug]

He didn't get fired for hiring and boinking her, he got fired for lying about it all. Honest Bob never let the truth get in his way.

 

[Rhavicc]

I was hoping so much the UL would have to play Arkansas in their bowl game last season. Would've loved to see the Hogs stomp their asses. Oh well, Georgia did a nice job with the trash.

Many of them were thinking that they were gonna beat Georgia. They probably thought that they would massacre Arkansas, but that's not the world that we live in.

 

[jauk11]

It still baffles me how some supposedly intelligent married man, in a public position, maybe the most recognizable face in the state at the time, with all the improprieties (crimes really, that you or I would have gone to jail over) in his closet, could have had the "dumbness" to be riding around the streets with this eyecatching babe hanging around his waist.

Full of himself, maybe, used to getting away with murder, maybe, just plain dumb-----probably.

I can't wait for the next episode, hard to believe he could be that dumb again, but then he does have a history.

 

[tmuck]

The Petrino/UL obsession is alive and well around here. Lets focus on our coach and team.

Give it up TT Cat and homerblue. You're not fooling anyone. Speaking of obsession. You can't get more obsessed than a UL fan creating multiple UK usernames, having a UK avatar pic. (I guess you thought by putting that up it would throw us off your scent. LMAO. Fail.) And trying and failing miserably at posing as a UK fan. It's creepy. Are you 14? How's 8th grade going?

 

[BoulderCat]

Living in Louisville I can tell you he is at home with UL Athletics. They do not care one bit as long as they win and disruptions can be kept under wraps. I just heard yesterday how great their D was going to be because of the Georgia rejects they have now.
Stoops and Co. need to beat them unmercifully later this year.

I'm glad he's theirs as well. I know some UK fans wanted him, but I wasn't one of them. That link gives an indication of why.

 

[jnewc2]

I don't know what shape he left the Arkansas program, but I know he won quite a few games (in a really tough division) while he was down there..I'm not sure how much I buy this whole thing that he leaves programs in terrible shape when he leaves..I mean how exactly does winning a bunch of games leave a program in terrible shape? I could buy that argument if you're a team with tradition that had several big-time options for head coach, but at a school like Kentucky that has nothing to lose? Is the roster and the culture really that bad following several 9 and 10-win seasons? The program wouldn't have been in terrible shape if a good coaching hire was made after he left instead of guys like Kragthorpe or John L. Smith. The reason teams are bad after Petrino leaves is mainly because they make terrible coaching hires. And even if that happened at UK how exactly could the program be in any worse shape than when he took over? That two-win roster and culture at UK were about as bad as it gets. I'm not sure how some 10-win seasons would hurt it.

If Petrino came and took over a two-win Kentucky team and stayed for four or five years and won 9 or 10 or 11 games a year and had us competing for SEC East titles and packing the stadium with fans and having us as a consistent top-25 team with an exciting offense and then left, how exactly would he be leaving the program in worse shape? It's an honest question. You're telling me as a two-win team with little tradition you'd turn that down because you'd be afraid of what kind of shape the program would be in when he left? I find that hard to believe, and I know that because of the excitement that was on this board when there were rumors that Petrino was going to be hired before Mitch turned him down.

Even if Petrino took over UK and won 9,10 and 11 games for four or five years and then left a terrible roster and a terrible culture the program would be in better shape than it was when he took over.

People can judge him on the off the field stuff, that's their prerogative, but at the end of the day all people care about is wins. ESPN doesn't care if you're a good human being. I want Kentucky football to be great, and I think sometimes we try to kill Petrino on here because at the end of the day we know that we had a proven winner practically begging to come here but Barnhart told him no (much like he told Calipari no the first time around after Tubby left) and now we're trying to justify it because that's our only choice (and we can't place our anger where it truly belongs with our AD). I don't know about you, but I'd take four or five 9 or 10 or 11-win seasons and a coach leaving for greener pastures, and if you wouldn't I'm not sure you're being honest with yourself.

 

[JHB4UK]

Why is this article surprising to anyone in the world? Stories of the rampant out of control atmospheres and wreckage he leaves behind happen everywhere he has been?

UL in '07 & '08, moron excuse makers like Howie & Steelers would tell you Kragthorpe was cleaning up Petrino's messes

Atlanta Falcons he imploded in less than a year's employment in '07. His name is still cursed by every player & coach on that team (ask Mike Zimmer in particular). Virtually unemployable by any NFL franchise after what he did.

Arkansas as detailed in that article a wild unsupervised culture of fear & only care about on the field results, off the field grades & behavior not checked at all

And after only one season at Western Kentucky he worked his magic there as well. Even UL personal author Eric Crawford wrote a surprising detailed article on the cuture he inflicted on them in such a short time.

Amazing the idiots at UL know all this and KNOW he is going to do the same to them, but take him back and pay him way above what the market demands for his services. Any UL fan who thinks he's gonna serve a winning classy tenure over the next 10-15 years, retire gracefully, and hug everyone with tears in his eyes as he is given a gold watch & bronze statue out front of the toxic waste dump stadium grounds truely lives in imaginationland.

He's gonna end BADLY for y'all, because that is all he knows, that is all he does.

 

[kats23]

I don't know what shape he left the Arkansas program, but I know he won quite a few games (in a really tough division) while he was down there..I'm not sure how much I buy this whole thing that he leaves programs in terrible shape when he leaves..I mean how exactly does winning a bunch of games leave a program in terrible shape? I could buy that argument if you're a team with tradition that had several big-time options for head coach, but at a school like Kentucky that has nothing to lose? Is the roster and the culture really that bad following several 9 and 10-win seasons? The program wouldn't have been in terrible shape if a good coaching hire was made after he left instead of guys like Kragthorpe or John L. Smith. The reason teams are bad after Petrino leaves is mainly because they make terrible coaching hires. And even if that happened at UK how exactly could the program be in any worse shape than when he took over? That two-win roster and culture at UK were about as bad as it gets. I'm not sure how some 10-win seasons would hurt it.

If Petrino came and took over a two-win Kentucky team and stayed for four or five years and won 9 or 10 or 11 games a year and had us competing for SEC East titles and packing the stadium with fans and having us as a consistent top-25 team with an exciting offense and then left, how exactly would he be leaving the program in worse shape? It's an honest question. You're telling me as a two-win team with little tradition you'd turn that down because you'd be afraid of what kind of shape the program would be in when he left? I find that hard to believe, and I know that because of the excitement that was on this board when there were rumors that Petrino was going to be hired before Mitch turned him down.

Even if Petrino took over UK and won 9,10 and 11 games for four or five years and then left a terrible roster and a terrible culture the program would be in better shape than it was when he took over.

People can judge him on the off the field stuff, that's their prerogative, but at the end of the day all people care about is wins. ESPN doesn't care if you're a good human being. I want Kentucky football to be great, and I think sometimes we try to kill Petrino on here because at the end of the day we know that we had a proven winner practically begging to come here but Barnhart told him no (much like he told Calipari no the first time around after Tubby left) and now we're trying to justify it because that's our only choice (and we can't place our anger where it truly belongs with our AD). I don't know about you, but I'd take four or five 9 or 10 or 11-win seasons and a coach leaving for greener pastures, and if you wouldn't I'm not sure you're being honest with yourself.

It's a winning at all cost attitude and that's fine if you think that way but jeopardizing the program for a few winning seasons is not worth the risk in my eyes. A place like Arkansas who has always been solid in football could withstand what Petrino brought in and how he ran the program. While UL suffered tremendously after he left. They threw everyone off the team who were troublemakers & lo and behold they were left with no talent.

Let's say Petrino came to UK and stayed 4 years. He brings in his usual cast of criminals and then leaves. UK doesn't have the tradition to bring in a big name coach esp with the reputation Petrino has and isn't going to be able to sustain the success. Let's be real here. At Arkansas, he didn't have to do what he's doing at UL. He could recruit a better type of athlete but it looks like he still had plenty of criminal guys to help get him over the hump. Makes sense. Toe to toe he can't recruit with the big boys.

You want to sell your soul for wins, okay, that's the way you see it but I would rather do it Stoops way. Sure, it was a calculated risk hiring Cal but after one blip (Bledsoe) there hasn't been a sniff of cheating. I have to figure it's bc UK stopped going after grey area guys. Don't have to anymore. Don't fool yourself, even if Cal was busted tomorrow for cheating UK basketball would survive.

 

[cathouse]

I don't know what shape he left the Arkansas program, but I know he won quite a few games (in a really tough division) while he was down there..I'm not sure how much I buy this whole thing that he leaves programs in terrible shape when he leaves..I mean how exactly does winning a bunch of games leave a program in terrible shape? I could buy that argument if you're a team with tradition that had several big-time options for head coach, but at a school like Kentucky that has nothing to lose? Is the roster and the culture really that bad following several 9 and 10-win seasons? The program wouldn't have been in terrible shape if a good coaching hire was made after he left instead of guys like Kragthorpe or John L. Smith. The reason teams are bad after Petrino leaves is mainly because they make terrible coaching hires. And even if that happened at UK how exactly could the program be in any worse shape than when he took over? That two-win roster and culture at UK were about as bad as it gets. I'm not sure how some 10-win seasons would hurt it.

If Petrino came and took over a two-win Kentucky team and stayed for four or five years and won 9 or 10 or 11 games a year and had us competing for SEC East titles and packing the stadium with fans and having us as a consistent top-25 team with an exciting offense and then left, how exactly would he be leaving the program in worse shape? It's an honest question. You're telling me as a two-win team with little tradition you'd turn that down because you'd be afraid of what kind of shape the program would be in when he left? I find that hard to believe, and I know that because of the excitement that was on this board when there were rumors that Petrino was going to be hired before Mitch turned him down.

Even if Petrino took over UK and won 9,10 and 11 games for four or five years and then left a terrible roster and a terrible culture the program would be in better shape than it was when he took over.

People can judge him on the off the field stuff, that's their prerogative, but at the end of the day all people care about is wins. ESPN doesn't care if you're a good human being. I want Kentucky football to be great, and I think sometimes we try to kill Petrino on here because at the end of the day we know that we had a proven winner practically begging to come here but Barnhart told him no (much like he told Calipari no the first time around after Tubby left) and now we're trying to justify it because that's our only choice (and we can't place our anger where it truly belongs with our AD). I don't know about you, but I'd take four or five 9 or 10 or 11-win seasons and a coach leaving for greener pastures, and if you wouldn't I'm not sure you're being honest with yourself.

JC,don't drink the red koolade, man. Petrino's left UL in the dumpster the first time he was there. He bailed on Atlanta because he could not win against teams with equal talent. Disrupted the whole organization and disrespected professional players on the way out the door. Left Arkansas in shambles and made the Hogs the laughing stock of the college fb world. Do you see a pattern here or can you only see the wins he accumulated by playing teams with lesser talent and using players that other schools will not touch and some should be in prison. Look at the carcass that he leaves behind after a few years. Trust me, it stinks. Just ask any of the fans of the teams just mentioned, other than the delusional UL fans. Their too busy drinking to know what is going to hit them somewhere down the road.

 

[hmt5000]

petrino had stuff put into his contract to make sure that kids went to class and that they stayed apr compliant. it was funny that he go a bonus last year for his players academics since coaches "should" be making sure that kids at least do a minimum of school work to stay eligible. the fact that ul had to put stuff in his contract that would seem like part of the job to anyone else is more of a bad thing than a good

 

[Mojocat]

"They were a shell of a Top 5 program before Bobby Petrino was fired in April of 2012 to begin the downfall, a façade of winning that shrouded a slowly rotting mess.....When Bielema arrived, players were flunking out, missing class and changing majors to find the easiest roads to staying eligible. There was a saying within the football team: “Ds get degrees.” “I worked in the academic advisement office when I first got here, and what I saw, frankly, was shocking,” says Aaron Henry, a former All-Big Ten defensive back at Wisconsin under Bielema and current Arkansas graduate assistant coach."

There you go, that's what Louisville has embraced. And by Louisville I don't mean just Jurich and the athletics department. They have all signed on: the school president, the fans, the community, the media. I've not seen the kind of widespread criticism anywhere else like what Jurich got when he hired BP. The coverage was brutal. And the local media guys were even harder on Petrino when he left Louisville, there was a real chorus of "we never liked the guy, let us tell you what he was really like." It was gutless, waiting to speak the truth until he was gone to Atlanta. What's even more gutless? Climbing back on the bandwagon now that he's back in town.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I don't know what shape he left the Arkansas program, but I know he won quite a few games (in a really tough division) while he was down there..I'm not sure how much I buy this whole thing that he leaves programs in terrible shape when he leaves..I mean how exactly does winning a bunch of games leave a program in terrible shape? I could buy that argument if you're a team with tradition that had several big-time options for head coach, but at a school like Kentucky that has nothing to lose? Is the roster and the culture really that bad following several 9 and 10-win seasons? The program wouldn't have been in terrible shape if a good coaching hire was made after he left instead of guys like Kragthorpe or John L. Smith. The reason teams are bad after Petrino leaves is mainly because they make terrible coaching hires. And even if that happened at UK how exactly could the program be in any worse shape than when he took over? That two-win roster and culture at UK were about as bad as it gets. I'm not sure how some 10-win seasons would hurt it.

If Petrino came and took over a two-win Kentucky team and stayed for four or five years and won 9 or 10 or 11 games a year and had us competing for SEC East titles and packing the stadium with fans and having us as a consistent top-25 team with an exciting offense and then left, how exactly would he be leaving the program in worse shape? It's an honest question. You're telling me as a two-win team with little tradition you'd turn that down because you'd be afraid of what kind of shape the program would be in when he left? I find that hard to believe, and I know that because of the excitement that was on this board when there were rumors that Petrino was going to be hired before Mitch turned him down.

Even if Petrino took over UK and won 9,10 and 11 games for four or five years and then left a terrible roster and a terrible culture the program would be in better shape than it was when he took over.

People can judge him on the off the field stuff, that's their prerogative, but at the end of the day all people care about is wins. ESPN doesn't care if you're a good human being. I want Kentucky football to be great, and I think sometimes we try to kill Petrino on here because at the end of the day we know that we had a proven winner practically begging to come here but Barnhart told him no (much like he told Calipari no the first time around after Tubby left) and now we're trying to justify it because that's our only choice (and we can't place our anger where it truly belongs with our AD). I don't know about you, but I'd take four or five 9 or 10 or 11-win seasons and a coach leaving for greener pastures, and if you wouldn't I'm not sure you're being honest with yourself.

The Petrino obsession also continues with people who continue,for some reason, to pine for him and constantly apologize for him. Wins are great, but if you think his crap does not impact kids' lives in the program, you are delusional.

 

[ram1955]

Not really concerned about what he does and ul as long as he does not beat us. The closest thing we ever had to petrino was Curci. As I look back, I still think his '77 team was the best Ky team in my 56 years. I regret that it was determined that we didn't play by the rules, but that doesn't make memories of that team any less dear to me.
If given the choice: not hire Curci and hire Claibourne instead...and not go on probation, but not having those memories of those '76 and '77 teams; not go on probation but have to bear more of those mediocre Claibourne years or even worse, Ray or Curry years, I would not change a thing I'd take Curci a million times over. NCAA rules are arbritary, inconsistently enforced...failing to abide by those rules or at least the interpretation of those rules is unfortunate, but hardly immoral. You may get nailed; you may not. You can get in trouble when there was no wrong intent; you can skate even when there is mountains of evidence against you i.e unc. If any coach could come in here and give us a few seasons of 9-10 wins, I'd take it. We certainly couldn't end up any worse off than we've been for the majority of the last 50 seasons.

 

[Rhavicc]

No bro,try again..quit swinging off the sack of any and everything concerned with Petrino and UL.

All the great things going on with UK football and you rarely post in those threads but as soon as Petrino or UL pop up you're in the thread before you can say "go". You are a sad excuse for a grown man much less a "fan". Lol, you won't find Tmuck in any of the 100 threads concerning UK but you can bet he'll show in the threads like this one. After all Petrino threads clearly gets this guy off. Someone should make another UL thread for Tmuck, he surely could use the pleasure.

While I rarely agree with tmuck, you've been here for 9 posts. Give it a break. Lol

 

[TBCat]

I don't know what shape he left the Arkansas program, but I know he won quite a few games (in a really tough division) while he was down there..I'm not sure how much I buy this whole thing that he leaves programs in terrible shape when he leaves..I mean how exactly does winning a bunch of games leave a program in terrible shape? I could buy that argument if you're a team with tradition that had several big-time options for head coach, but at a school like Kentucky that has nothing to lose? Is the roster and the culture really that bad following several 9 and 10-win seasons? The program wouldn't have been in terrible shape if a good coaching hire was made after he left instead of guys like Kragthorpe or John L. Smith. The reason teams are bad after Petrino leaves is mainly because they make terrible coaching hires. And even if that happened at UK how exactly could the program be in any worse shape than when he took over? That two-win roster and culture at UK were about as bad as it gets. I'm not sure how some 10-win seasons would hurt it.

If Petrino came and took over a two-win Kentucky team and stayed for four or five years and won 9 or 10 or 11 games a year and had us competing for SEC East titles and packing the stadium with fans and having us as a consistent top-25 team with an exciting offense and then left, how exactly would he be leaving the program in worse shape? It's an honest question. You're telling me as a two-win team with little tradition you'd turn that down because you'd be afraid of what kind of shape the program would be in when he left? I find that hard to believe, and I know that because of the excitement that was on this board when there were rumors that Petrino was going to be hired before Mitch turned him down.

Even if Petrino took over UK and won 9,10 and 11 games for four or five years and then left a terrible roster and a terrible culture the program would be in better shape than it was when he took over.

People can judge him on the off the field stuff, that's their prerogative, but at the end of the day all people care about is wins. ESPN doesn't care if you're a good human being. I want Kentucky football to be great, and I think sometimes we try to kill Petrino on here because at the end of the day we know that we had a proven winner practically begging to come here but Barnhart told him no (much like he told Calipari no the first time around after Tubby left) and now we're trying to justify it because that's our only choice (and we can't place our anger where it truly belongs with our AD). I don't know about you, but I'd take four or five 9 or 10 or 11-win seasons and a coach leaving for greener pastures, and if you wouldn't I'm not sure you're being honest with yourself.

He would not have won 10 or 11 games here. UK was a long term rebuilding project. Petrino has never done that. Petrino is good at inheriting a program that is already winning. Win at an increased level for a while and then leave the program in absolute turmoil. We were not winning and were not going to for 2 to 3 years at best. Best case for Petrino here at UK would have been him being here for 2 to 3 years averaging 3 or 4 wins per year and then a 5 year house cleaning project in his wake. I would not have taken that.

The man has a history that needs to be acknowledged. He has left every program he's been at in much worse shape than they were before him. Petrino in no way compares to John Calipari.

 

[sluggercatfan]

I think Bobby is one of the most unethical coaches in all of football. The way he handled leaving Louisville, the Falcons, meeting with AU officials under the cover of darkness behind his AD and AU's coach are some of the lowest things of a coach doing. But that deal at Arkansas, I just can't help but believe he was targeted by a sweet young thing who had a plan to fast track herself in the world of college athletics to an AD job somewhere. She was hired for a job she had neither the experience or skill to do because of some other "skill' she had. Speaking as an older guy, if a pretty young thing half your age comes on to you, at the least you are going to be flattered. Bobby took it to the next step, he has no morals or ethics, and in spite of being married he took the bait, swallowed it to his rear end and got caught. As much as Louisville thinks he is theirs, if a program he thinks is a step up calls, he is out of there as quick as he can catch a flight, its who he is.

I was told by a guy yesterday who "claims" he has a lot of inside knowledge in the athletics program at Otis(not going to tell you all he told me because it is too juicy and would take too long), that Bobby and Jurich hate each other , but BP was hired because it was a "necessary evil" heading into the ACC...Also gave me details in the Strong , Hurtt deal and why Charlie is now at Texas...Guy is a huge UL and WKU so I assumed he is somehow tied in with the Brohms .

 

[sluggercatfan]

But it wasn’t just academics. When Bielema arrived, Arkansas was in the middle of a disturbing run of player behavior issues and had an average of one player arrested every 68 days.

Arkansas had two players arrested in the first three months after Bielema arrived, then went two years and five months without another incident. That’s an eternity in this age of athletes running afoul of the law.



Sound like any program we know today? That part alone says all you need to hear to understand why no Athletic director in his right mind would ever hire Petrino. This is why Mitch never even seriously looked at him. I hope the Petrinoites that were on this board 3 years ago now understand that. I would have seriously thought about not being a UK football fan if we hired Petrino.

Hiring someone like Gillispie was one thing because nobody knew ahead of time what he was going to be like. But hiring someone like Petrino when you what you are getting is another thing. If I am a university president I would fire an AD that would hire a guy like this.

You can't fire someone who has more power than you do

 

[sluggercatfan]

I don't know what shape he left the Arkansas program, but I know he won quite a few games (in a really tough division) while he was down there..I'm not sure how much I buy this whole thing that he leaves programs in terrible shape when he leaves..I mean how exactly does winning a bunch of games leave a program in terrible shape? I could buy that argument if you're a team with tradition that had several big-time options for head coach, but at a school like Kentucky that has nothing to lose? Is the roster and the culture really that bad following several 9 and 10-win seasons? The program wouldn't have been in terrible shape if a good coaching hire was made after he left instead of guys like Kragthorpe or John L. Smith. The reason teams are bad after Petrino leaves is mainly because they make terrible coaching hires. And even if that happened at UK how exactly could the program be in any worse shape than when he took over? That two-win roster and culture at UK were about as bad as it gets. I'm not sure how some 10-win seasons would hurt it.

If Petrino came and took over a two-win Kentucky team and stayed for four or five years and won 9 or 10 or 11 games a year and had us competing for SEC East titles and packing the stadium with fans and having us as a consistent top-25 team with an exciting offense and then left, how exactly would he be leaving the program in worse shape? It's an honest question. You're telling me as a two-win team with little tradition you'd turn that down because you'd be afraid of what kind of shape the program would be in when he left? I find that hard to believe, and I know that because of the excitement that was on this board when there were rumors that Petrino was going to be hired before Mitch turned him down.

Even if Petrino took over UK and won 9,10 and 11 games for four or five years and then left a terrible roster and a terrible culture the program would be in better shape than it was when he took over.

People can judge him on the off the field stuff, that's their prerogative, but at the end of the day all people care about is wins. ESPN doesn't care if you're a good human being. I want Kentucky football to be great, and I think sometimes we try to kill Petrino on here because at the end of the day we know that we had a proven winner practically begging to come here but Barnhart told him no (much like he told Calipari no the first time around after Tubby left) and now we're trying to justify it because that's our only choice (and we can't place our anger where it truly belongs with our AD). I don't know about you, but I'd take four or five 9 or 10 or 11-win seasons and a coach leaving for greener pastures, and if you wouldn't I'm not sure you're being honest with yourself.

I firmly believe that BP was blackballed from the SEC.

 

[ulismyman]

How anybody could support whats going on at that school is a headshaker

 

[tmuck]

While I rarely agree with tmuck, you've been here for 9 posts. Give it a break. Lol

And all of those posts are either defending UL, Or taking subtle sarcastic shots at UK. Just click on his previous messages if you don't believe me. There's never been a more obvious UL Troll.

 

[hmt5000]

I was told by a guy yesterday who "claims" he has a lot of inside knowledge in the athletics program at Otis(not going to tell you all he told me because it is too juicy and would take too long), that Bobby and Jurich hate each other , but BP was hired because it was a "necessary evil" heading into the ACC...Also gave me details in the Strong , Hurtt deal and why Charlie is now at Texas...Guy is a huge UL and WKU so I assumed he is somehow tied in with the Brohms .

No one has ever liked Petrino they just tolerate him cause he wins. The spit and shine ul is trying to put him is humorous since you can go back and read what ul fans said about him last time. Also a bunch of people working at wku were happy to see him go.

He's recruiting better this around and they are over seeing his off field stuff to make sure he doesn't screw them again... but the fact that they have to do that shows he hasn't changed. He's just getting paid to care about academics now and they have people in charge of that for him.

 

[The Public Enemy]

Public Enemy and Steelers in 5-4-3-2.........
I for one am very glad he is UL's ASSHOLE And not ours. Regardless of short term success (wins), Petrino's low class actions will not sustain a program for the long run. I love Coach Stoops and the program he and this staff are building from the ground up with a firm foundation of trust, integrity, and honesty. Something UL will never have as long as that slimeball is their coach.

Why you are calling for me...been running my Fantasy Football Draft...and again you know my stance on him and will repeat it again...Win and stay NCAA & APR Compliant.

 

[jauk11]

Not really concerned about what he does and ul as long as he does not beat us. The closest thing we ever had to petrino was Curci. As I look back, I still think his '77 team was the best Ky team in my 56 years. I regret that it was determined that we didn't play by the rules, but that doesn't make memories of that team any less dear to me.
If given the choice: not hire Curci and hire Claibourne instead...and not go on probation, but not having those memories of those '76 and '77 teams; not go on probation but have to bear more of those mediocre Claibourne years or even worse, Ray or Curry years, I would not change a thing I'd take Curci a million times over. NCAA rules are arbritary, inconsistently enforced...failing to abide by those rules or at least the interpretation of those rules is unfortunate, but hardly immoral. You may get nailed; you may not. You can get in trouble when there was no wrong intent; you can skate even when there is mountains of evidence against you i.e unc. If any coach could come in here and give us a few seasons of 9-10 wins, I'd take it. We certainly couldn't end up any worse off than we've been for the majority of the last 50 seasons.

Some correlation between BP and Curci, but not much, what a putdown of Curci to compare him to the slimeball that is a hero at Transfer U. But there is some correlation, the main difference is the incompetent NCAA nailing UK and ignoring hurtt (and the others in charge) at UL, but you do realize that Curci left UK with a losing record AND that a VERY good HOF coach had a ZERO win season his first year at UK with the mess that Curci left him. And Curci's record his last year at UK was 3.-8, so much for all the improvement he left us. Another similarity to BP.

As for jnewc2's long rant, disgusting, he had built up quite a few points with me but he went back to zero with his defense of the indefensible. And I doubt very much that a majority of UK fans wanted BP at UK under any circumstances, what an insult to our fan base.

 

[Rob_deVille]

Right now, the top 2 thread in your football forum are about Louisville.

Obsess much?

 

[tmuck]

Right now, the top 2 thread in your football forum are about Louisville.

Obsess much?

Who's board are you on? More obsessed much?