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I’d be surprised if Greg Brown chose the G-league but read that Kai Sotto had been offered. He’s a kid I could see doing that.
 
i think given time this fails
in the end they are going to allow players to go straight to the pro's

i did read an article that the NCAA should go the hockey route
 
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The NBA is already chewing kids up and spitting them out as is. Some end up overseas and some just out. Now the G League wants to start stealing away the best players and it's clear the NCAA and League aren't on the same page. The NBA is trying to ruin college BB. They could care less about college BB. The NBA will look at their own league in 10 years or less and see a watered-down version, but they have no vision past right now. College BB is a great proving ground and has produced some of the best Pros of all time.
 
The NBA is already chewing kids up and spitting them out as is. Some end up overseas and some just out. Now the G League wants to start stealing away the best players and it's clear the NCAA and League aren't on the same page. The NBA is trying to ruin college BB. They could care less about college BB. The NBA will look at their own league in 10 years or less and see a watered-down version, but they have no vision past right now. College BB is a great proving ground and has produced some of the best Pros of all time.
Straight out of high school has produced some of the best pros of all-time also.
 
A necessary step in their part due to the lack of progression from the NCAA. Unfortunately, it seems the members who comprise these 'committees' within the NCAA are not "sports" people, nor do they have a solid grasp of amateur athletics at this time and where it is going.

If anything, the NBA may see this as an opportunity to develop a new path for prospects as a way to cultivate and development talent better than the college game; I would imagine this is something they [NBA] strongly believes they are better at--with the ultimate goal having a batter on-court product in the future.
 
from what i read a player does not have to declare for the draft
if they get drafted they have 3 weeks to decide if they want to go the pro route or college
it was a little more detailed, i'll try to find the article (going to take some searching)
I've always thought they should go back to the old days where everybody is automatically draft eligible. You can be drafted then go back to school if you want. The Celtics took Bird in the 78 draft, not 79.
 
Straight out of high school has produced some of the best pros of all-time also.
It has, not near as many that not only played college BB but played 3-4 years back in the day. I'm just curious about how many straight to G league is produced.

The NBA wants to allow kids to go straight from HS to the NBA draft which is fine, but now they also want to steal kids away with the G League also. If they have it there way there wouldn't be any talent left for college BB. For example, did you know that Big Cliff who we were once after has an offer to play in the G League? That they have sought him out. He was ranked in the 40s or 50s.

The way they are doing this with the G League a college could send tons of time and money on a recruit only to see him leave them in the dirt at the last second. Teams are going to build around certain players and if that guy decides to go once almost all the talent is gone for the year you're screwed.

Just as if Clarke would have taken their offer. It is said that he really weighed it and considered it a lot. We went away from some players because we had him so if that changes late almost the entire Top 100 is gone and it's going to cause trouble for teams. I get the HS thing and if this was an option early, but once you decided to go to college that was it, but it's not. The G League s reaching out to layers who have been locked up for months. I just think it's the NBA not giving a dam a bit the college game and it will also hurt the NBA down the road too, but greed blinds them to the long term situation.
 
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NBA in your future or not, kids too often dismiss the college education. Get both if you can, I'd say. Some go on to do even bigger things when they finish sports careers. That's less likely without the bachelor's degree.
You're absolutely correct. And not to mention the cost of a college education, these days. I have grandkids in college, I'm astonished at the expense. The single biggest life-changing event for me was my college education.
 
from what i read a player does not have to declare for the draft
if they get drafted they have 3 weeks to decide if they want to go the pro route or college
it was a little more detailed, i'll try to find the article (going to take some searching)
The kids need an option if they go undrafted. Especially kids trying to go directly out of high school if they’re allowed to do that. If they go undrafted or don’t like their draft status, they should be able to opt out and go to college. Baseball players can do that.
 
It has, not near as many that not only played college BB but played 3-4 years back in the day. I'm just curious about how many straight to G league is produced.

The NBA wants to allow kids to go straight from HS to the NBA draft which is fine, but now they also want to steal kids away with the G League also. If they have it there way there wouldn't be any talent left for college BB. For example, did you know that Big Cliff who we were once after has an offer to play in the G League? That they have sought him out. He was ranked in the 40s or 50s.

The way they are doing this with the G League a college could send tons of time and money on a recruit only to see him leave them in the dirt at the last second. Teams are going to build around certain players and if that guy decides to go once almost all the talent is gone for the year you're screwed.

Just as if Clarke would have taken their offer. It is said that he really weighed it and considered it a lot. We went away from some players because we had him so if that changes late almost the entire Top 100 is gone and it's going to cause trouble for teams. I get the HS thing and if this was an option early, but once you decided to go to college that was it, but it's not. The G League s reaching out to layers who have been locked up for months. I just think it's the NBA not giving a dam a bit the college game and it will also hurt the NBA down the road too, but greed blinds them to the long term situation.
If they opt for the G League then they can’t go to Duke or Kansas or any other team we compete against on the court for championships and recruits, so is it really that big of a loss? All the schools recruiting him lose. It just means the players a notch lower move up and become the teams star players. If the G league grows and takes more and more kids, then today’s mid major level players become tomorrow’s blue blood players.
 
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The kids need an option if they go undrafted. Especially kids trying to go directly out of high school if they’re allowed to do that. If they go undrafted or don’t like their draft status, they should be able to opt out and go to college. Baseball players can do that.

i agree they should have the option to return to school if they go undrafted (like it used to be)
if they get drafted the team that drafts them owns the rights to that player
so if that player is allowed to return then the team that drafted them should retain their rights just like they do with foreign players

it would take both the NCAA and the NBA changing some things for it to happen

as far as H.S. players go, let them be draft eligible and then take up to 3 weeks after the draft to decide their future (hockey rule)
 
i think given time this fails
in the end they are going to allow players to go straight to the pro's

i did read an article that the NCAA should go the hockey route

Or the G-League's high school foray ultimately fails when it continues to lose money in what will be a faltering economy. This might lead to the NBA keeping the current OAD structure. This was from the article today about the OAD rule being extended until at least 2026.

"The appetite among NBA teams for eliminating this rule, I'm not sure exactly if it's there right now. Talking to GMs and executives, I think that they've made it clear to their owners that they aren't in any rush whatsoever right now to eliminate one-and-done. They like the way that things are set up right now with players going to college for a year, or going to Australia or now the G League."

Looks like we're going to have more chances to sign kids like Clarke, Kuminga, and Banchero for at least another half-decade.
 
People act like straight to the pros out of high school is new. Kobe, garnett, lebron....many, many, many others have done it (many more have tried and failed). Cant wrap my mind around the new hoopla. Like Gottlieb said (and I hate him) nobody pays to watch minor league sports and theres no marketing tool that will ever help that
 
If they opt for the G League then they can’t go to Duke or Kansas or any other team we compete against on the court for championships and recruits, so is it really that big of a loss? All the schools recruiting him lose. It just means the players a notch lower move up and become the teams star players. If the G league grows and takes more and more kids, then today’s mid major level players become tomorrow’s blue blood players.
If Clarke would have said screw it I'm taking the half a million like Green then it would have hurt us dearly. At this point, there is no replacing a guy like Clarke. We came out on the good end this time, but it could always happen to us like it has others.
 
I guess no one read Bradley Beal's quote. If the NBA wants this to work it will.
 
Let them take the top 5 or the top 10 or the top 25.

College basketball will live on and we will watch the best talent available to the college ranks.

We will still get our share of talented players. We will still get players like Liggins, Miller, Harrellson, WCS, Hawkins, Willis, SGA, and Herro. Probably also snag guys like Bledsoe, Lamb, Washington, Richards, and Quickley.

The name on the front of the jersey is what matters, not the one on the back.

College basketball will survive this crisis.

I would be more concerned about COVID-19 ending college basketball than the G-League.
 
People act like straight to the pros out of high school is new. Kobe, garnett, lebron....many, many, many others have done it (many more have tried and failed). Cant wrap my mind around the new hoopla. Like Gottlieb said (and I hate him) nobody pays to watch minor league sports and theres no marketing tool that will ever help that
Back when those guys all came out, there was zero recourse for any of the kids who tried that route and failed miserably. Their careers and in some cases lives were ruined. Had there been an option for the ones who went undrafted to opt for college, a few kids lives and careers could have been saved.
 
G League is giving money and paying for college later like baseball does. If the NBA wants this to work it will.
 
In the NHL the teams retain the players rights until 30 days after he finishes four year of college. At that point he must be signed or becomes a free agent. He does not go back into the draft. If you are not drafted by your age 20 season you become a free agent when you leave college.
 
I’m confused by the whole G league drafting kids straight out of HS. Isn’t it the minor league for the NBA? If so, why don’t the NBA rules regarding OAD apply to it as well?
 
I’m confused by the whole G league drafting kids straight out of HS. Isn’t it the minor league for the NBA? If so, why don’t the NBA rules regarding OAD apply to it as well?

The rule states that they cannot play in the NBA until they are 19.

No rules against playing professionally overseas or in the G-League.
 
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The NBA is already chewing kids up and spitting them out as is. Some end up overseas and some just out. Now the G League wants to start stealing away the best players and it's clear the NCAA and League aren't on the same page. The NBA is trying to ruin college BB. They could care less about college BB. The NBA will look at their own league in 10 years or less and see a watered-down version, but they have no vision past right now. College BB is a great proving ground and has produced some of the best Pros of all time.
The one and done rule has been around for more than a decade. The league is as talented as it ever has been. College basketball isn’t going anywhere, but without the top talent, it’s gonna become even more niche than it already is.
 
Play basketball. Get paid. Period. Play basketball. Get paid.

Now how hard is this to understand.

Play basketball. Get paid. Play basketball. Get paid.

This is the time for college to make a change. Scholarship: Three year commitment. Penalty for early termination is full reimbursement due immediately.
 
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I guess no one read Bradley Beal's quote. If the NBA wants this to work it will.

Not sure what his quote was or by what is meant by if they want it to work it will. They can throw as much money at this as they want, can get every player they want into their pansy ass G league and it will never, I repeat NEVER be a popular product.
 
always makes me laugh. the same people who say "nba sucks", "i never watch it", "dont care when they leave" are the same ones who believe "there is no better marketing than college".

college basketball ratings are usually terrible. even the handful of bluebloods draw just ok ratings. no one watches the sport. if no one is really watching, is college basketball marketing that big of a deal? social media (instagram/snapchat/tiktok/youtube) are probably better for marketing.
 
Play basketball. Get paid. Period. Play basketball. Get paid.

Now how hard is this to understand.

Play basketball. Get paid. Play basketball. Get paid.

This is the time for college to make a change. Scholarship: Three year commitment. Penalty for early termination is full reimbursement due immediately.
Sure. Just make the same rules for students on academic scholarships.
 
i think given time this fails
in the end they are going to allow players to go straight to the pro's
Dude.

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That was a haiku!
 
Works for me.

that’s not how it works now unfortunately. At all really. I mean Duval and Bagley both were known to have very poor high school performance and it many truly believed they couldn’t even be eligible for college in general but somehow got accepted to Duke lol?

Athletes absolutely have lower standards to get into college, particularly football and basketball.
 
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