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Texas Tech's Darrion Williams Enters Portal

Agreed.

Go after the ones that plan to play college. The waiting game could leave you short handed.
You’re not going to get a “superstar” that way. You hold a spot for guys who return and land one of those. This guy is a different level though. He could be the missing piece for a top 5 team. He played a huge role in tt getting back and beating ark. If there is a legit “superstar” out there this guy fits the bill
 
Same height as PJ Washington
In college you can get away with being a 6'6 pf
I can name several.
If anyone watched the Florida Texas tech game you should want this dude. He makes so many of his shots in the paint
PJ has apparently shrunk 2 inches because he was always listed at 6'8" when he played here. I see that ESPN lists him at 6'6" now, but besides that, do you consider PJ a great rebounder?

I would gladly take Williams, I just don't think he's the it guy to turn around the rebounding weakness that we had this past season. Now, JT Toppin on the other hand...
 
Guys, Williams plays as more of a SF. He has versatility and had played everywhere from PG to PF, but usually as a SF/SG. He's versatile on the floor.
 
Same height as PJ Washington
In college you can get away with being a 6'6 pf
I can name several.
If anyone watched the Florida Texas tech game you should want this dude. He makes so many of his shots in the paint
Exactly right.

Lots of 6’6-6’7 superstar PFs.

Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
Larry Johnson
Corliss Williamson
Draymond Green
Chuck Hayes
Zion Williamson

Just the ones off the top of my head.
 
PJ has apparently shrunk 2 inches because he was always listed at 6'8" when he played here. I see that ESPN lists him at 6'6" now, but besides that, do you consider PJ a great rebounder?

I would gladly take Williams, I just don't think he's the it guy to turn around the rebounding weakness that we had this past season. Now, JT Toppin on the other hand...
He dominated Floridas 7 footers. They couldn't do anything with him. This dude is perfect for Pope offense

PJ was a good pf is what I was getting at. So was Grant Williams at that height
 
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Boy some of yall don’t watch a lick of basketball. Williams absolutely played the 4 at Texas tech. Hawkins was the primary guard, McMillan and Anderson were the other guards. Overton came in off the bench, Toppin was center and Federiko federiko was the backup big. Kerwin started in place of an injured McMillan the last few weeks of the season.

Darrion Williams is very similar to former vol grant williams. Can make an outside shot, but despite their height they can play bull ball.
 
Boy some of yall don’t watch a lick of basketball. Williams absolutely played the 4 at Texas tech. Hawkins was the primary guard, McMillan and Anderson were the other guards. Overton came in off the bench, Toppin was center and Federiko federiko was the backup big. Kerwin started in place of an injured McMillan the last few weeks of the season.

Darrion Williams is very similar to former vol grant williams. Can make an outside shot, but despite their height they can play bull ball.
Spot on game to grant Williams
 
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PJ has apparently shrunk 2 inches because he was always listed at 6'8" when he played here. I see that ESPN lists him at 6'6" now, but besides that, do you consider PJ a great rebounder?

That’s because it was standard practice during the Cal era to fudge height listings up a slight bit …presumably to help with their pro stock. Nearly all our Cal guys measured at the NBA combine below what we were told when they were here.

PJ is now listed at 6’6” because that is his actual height. Those 6’8” listings you saw in college were pure smoke and mirrors BS.
 
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That’s because it was standard practice during the Cal era to fudge height listings up a slight bit …presumably to help with their pro stock. Nearly all our Cal guys measured at the NBA combine below what we were told when they were here.

PJ is now listed at 6’6” because that is his actual height. Those 6’8” listings you saw in college were pure smoke and mirrors BS.
PJ Washington measured 6'8" in shoes according to the NBA's official measurements (6'6.5" without shoes) for the 2019 Combine. Basketball players play in shoes, so it seems like the 6'8" measurement is the proper one to use. What does Cal have to do with the NBA's offcial numbers unless you are alleging that he has enough influence over NBA officials to fudge their numbers too?

https://www.nbadraft.net/2019-nba-draft-combine-measurements/
 
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You’re not going to get a “superstar” that way. You hold a spot for guys who return and land one of those. This guy is a different level though. He could be the missing piece for a top 5 team. He played a huge role in tt getting back and beating ark. If there is a legit “superstar” out there this guy fits the bill
If you do wait on a “superstar” you better be sure he isn’t going to leave you hanging. In other words, don’t be caught with an incomplete roster because a guy decides last minute to stay in the draft.

I would hate to get this guy instead of Folgueiras and then he goes pro and Pope is scrambling to find a decent player to man the 4.
 
I wouldn't be going after any guys who are thinking about the NBA draft. Wait all that time, and then they go in the draft, decide to transfer to another team that isn't UK,or just go back to where they came from. A 1-in-4 shot.

He's not going in the 1st round.
 
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He's not going in the 1st round.
Those are the ones you recruit. But you better be sure they will show up before committing to them.

I wanted Lendeborg, but I am not so sure we didn’t dodge a bullet with him, because if he can go first round (some have him projected first round) then he may be gone and we would be scrambling to find a replacement.

This kid lacks legit NBA size, so he’s likely to return to college.
 
Those are the ones you recruit. But you better be sure they will show up before committing to them.

I wanted Lendeborg, but I am not so sure we didn’t dodge a bullet with him, because if he can go first round (some have him projected first round) then he may be gone and we would be scrambling to find a replacement.

This kid lacks legit NBA size, so he’s likely to return to college.

This. Why I said he wasn't a 1st rounder. Nobody is drafting that dude.
 
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Exactly right.

Lots of 6’6-6’7 superstar PFs.

Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
Larry Johnson
Corliss Williamson
Draymond Green
Chuck Hayes
Zion Williamson

Just the ones off the top of my head.
Malone was 6’ 9”
 
Yeah, but…he does not look to be a good rebounder. I’m not saying we need a great rebounder at PF, but we do need a good (above average) one since it looks like Garrison may be our C and he is also a poor rebounder.

Lastly, how is his defense? All anyone is talking about is players offense, until the season starts and then they complain about defense.
 
Yeah, but…he does not look to be a good rebounder. I’m not saying we need a great rebounder at PF, but we do need a good (above average) one since it looks like Garrison may be our C and he is also a poor rebounder.

Lastly, how is his defense? All anyone is talking about is players offense, until the season starts and then they complain about defense.
Texas tech ad a team was a good defensive team and he played good defense in the tournament from what I could tell. I know 100% he can handle the SEC physicality because that really stood out to me.
 
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I question if anyone on here watched the Texas Tech games or any throughout the year after some of these remarks. This dude will absolutely be on of the top transfers by far.
 
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Who ACTUALLY believes there is a team that will draft Oweh in the 1st round OR give him a guaranteed 2nd round contract????

Not me.

He will make more as a Sr at UK than he would in the G-League. So even if he "tests the draft waters"( I HATE that saying because these kids know EXACTLY what the NBA teams think about them because their agents are in CONSTANT contact with the scouts throughout the season), he will be back next year.
Oweh put his name in the draft primarily to get feedback. I think he's pretty well set on returning and working on what he needs to improve his draft stock next year.
 
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Yes. Has to be the case. TOS reported a big, a shooter and a possible wildcard — that’s it. We are not adding more than 3 more and most likely only 2 more, a big and a shooter
There's been bits and pieces tossed out there about some foreign guys as well. Have to wonder if the Wildcard isn't a surprise player from overseas?
 
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NBA? I wouldn't know. Grant Williams a stud college player though.
Not sure anyone cares what he can do in the NBA. Williams was very good in college.
Nobody is disputing that the former SEC Player of the Year was good in college. Nobody is disputing that Darrion Williams is also good.

The question is about rebounding ability to address one of our greatest weaknesses from last season.
 
I agree, if we get Folgueiras, we are probably done at the 4/5.

I feel like Pope wants to go a little smaller, more athletic, and will play Folgueiras and Garrison together with Moreno off the bench. Williams and Noah would also see some minutes at the 4.

The reason I am thinking this is possible is that we got Williams and are still after Yates or Pierre. We get one of those and there’s a logjam at the 2 and 3 spots. To give Williams some minutes, Pope almost has to play him some at the 4.
Pope would be running himself pretty thin at the 4/5. You would think after the injuries last year he would make sure he was covered at key positions.
 
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Agreed. A lot of unknown going into next season also depends on Malachi Moreno.
Not only would it be a big gamble considering the injuries we had last year, but also our rebounding deficiencies. I know size isn't everything when it comes to rebounding, but it's certainly a lot. I just don't see a way that we don't add two more bigs.
 
Give this man 3-4 mil and ask no questions. He's a load!
By comparison, UK spent a little less than $4M on its ENTIRE roster this past season!

This is why Mitch/ big donors are dragging the hind tit on NIL this recruiting cycle! They were not expecting the “market value” that some programs are placing on top portal/ freshman prospects!
 
By comparison, UK spent a little less than $4M on its ENTIRE roster this past season!

This is why Mitch/ big donors are dragging the hind tit on NIL this recruiting cycle! They were not expecting the “market value” that some programs are placing on top portal/ freshman prospects!
How do you know this?
 
If you do wait on a “superstar” you better be sure he isn’t going to leave you hanging. In other words, don’t be caught with an incomplete roster because a guy decides last minute to stay in the draft.

I would hate to get this guy instead of Folgueiras and then he goes pro and Pope is scrambling to find a decent player to man the 4.
You have to wait. I would say several guys return for the nil and that’s like a second recruiting season. You gotta hold a spot for a guy who can play the 3/4 in Williams or any number of the undersized guys who need another year. At the same time if they are all committed well that’s that. But holding a spot for a late guy is a must I feel. There are so many variables a coaching fire, nba guys, euro, injured transfer for next year. And if your team is salty about bringing in a guy who will take 30 of their minutes a game and be one of the top guys well then you don’t have the right guys. Popes system has plenty of time for folguieras and another Williams. These guys play two different games and pope will get his 20 minutes or more if he’s great. It’s a guy like cam Williams who expects to be oad at Kentucky who would take the biggest hit
 
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Malone was 6’7.
With or without shoes? Age 25 or age 60?

Malone's list height as a player was always 6'9". If all players are consistently overmeasured by 1-2 inches, then you need to take everybody else down 2 inches too. Are we sure Darrion Williams isn't actually 6'4"?

People can shrink or develop different posture as well. Mark Pope doesn't seem as tall as he was when he played here.

Regardless, Karl Malone is a Hall of Famer with massive body that could dominate the glass. Dennis Rodman was probably the best rebounder of all-time and he was no taller than 6'7". The height isn't really the point, it's the skill-level and aggression at grabbing boards. Manute Bol was a terrible rebounder because he was always outmuscled and outworked by smaller but stronger and more aggressive players.
 
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