When you're an official and blatantly track down a coach on his sideline walking away from you and try to bait him into a technical that's completely unprofessional and the SEC should reprimand him for it.
Refs don’t think we’re missing enough players
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Yeah, our fanbase well deserves the title of being one of the most obnoxious in sports.
Love how so many of our fans complain about refs, nonstop. Quite amusing, to be honest. Only on Rupp Rafters do you see threads before the game bemoaning who the refs are for the game. Gives our entire fanbase a bad look. But it won't stop. We can keep looking like idiots.
Love how so many of our fans complain about refs, nonstop. Quite amusing, to be honest. Only on Rupp Rafters do you see threads before the game bemoaning who the refs are for the game. Gives our entire fanbase a bad look. But it won't stop. We can keep looking like idiots.
Higgins has been off of UK games for the past 8 years for a reason. Not tough to imagine that his closest friends in the profession hold some animosity toward us.
Wtf is this about? He was straight up taunting Pope.
Pope seemed to do nothing about it
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Its called Terry Olgelsby is a terrible official and was being completely unprofessional trying to bait pope into a technical.
Ogelsby trying to get into it with Pope should get him banned from working our games.
Definitely inspired me to figure out who Terry Oglesby is. Hating Cal I kind of get, but stalking Mark Pope is just bizarre behavior.
Only way to explain it is some officials like to think they are a bigger part of the game than they really are.
He was on my short list. He and Daily look alike.
All the referee defenders need to get on Twitter and watch some of the highlights of the crew last night. Sears protected to the nth degree.
Go look on reddit at any game thread of an sec game. Fans of every school in the league are complaining about officials. Not just Kentucky fans, although we do have a rather loud minority that make others look bad.
Why would anyone like you with the vast knowledge of basketball that you have accumulated, ever want to hang around a bunch of idiots like us on a message board?
Right.
Complaining about refs, who actually influence the game = bad.
Complaining about the fans who complain about the refs = I’m better than you guys.
Do I have to read the whole article to find disdain for Kentucky and coachex? Because it's not in that text
Yeah, that literally has nothing to do with what I posted. But nice effort, I guess...
You could have seen his disdain on display last night, as he stalked Pope on the sidelines.
I never said or implied that the article explicitly included anything about disdain for UK or our coaches.
I found his history with Higgins interesting, and figured anyone with 3/4 of a brain could draw their own conclusions.
What pisses me off the most is this was fully investigated by FBI and other law enforcement. THERE WERE NO DEATH THREATS .
six comments were referred to prosecutors and were not worth prosecuting. The strongest was “ I hope you fall off of a roof and kill yourself . “ the whole thing was made up . Higgins is the Jussie Smollet or referees . Falsley claimed death threats to gain an advantage in the PR war .
Press doesn’t gave the gonads to correct it .
I think Oglesby is the single worst ref that isn't a roofer.
Yeah Kentucky fans are the only ones who complain about refs.
I understand many do not or would never accept my opinion here on this but I just had a conversation with my grandson about life, situations where others seemingly try to provoke you and there comes a time when you either stand or run.
He was in a basketball game and this kid was pushing him, grabbing him all game; not subtle pushes but trying to really be aggressive and intimidate my grandson. My grandson is one of those who is shy, talented, smart and does not seek attention.
I told him there comes a time when you got to say, "F it and give it to them to shut them up"
Pope needed to get tossed out right there. I like the fact he is a classy guy, way more than me but F it and let him have it.
FYI...the kid pushed my grandson to the ground again, no call then but when he got up and my grandson knocked him down with a hard rebound and the kid got up crying like a baby. Foul called but there was no more pushing from the little crap. Sometimes people just take kindness for weakness and you either take it or not,
He was in a basketball game and this kid was pushing him, grabbing him all game; not subtle pushes but trying to really be aggressive and intimidate my grandson. My grandson is one of those who is shy, talented, smart and does not seek attention.
I told him there comes a time when you got to say, "F it and give it to them to shut them up"
Pope needed to get tossed out right there. I like the fact he is a classy guy, way more than me but F it and let him have it.
FYI...the kid pushed my grandson to the ground again, no call then but when he got up and my grandson knocked him down with a hard rebound and the kid got up crying like a baby. Foul called but there was no more pushing from the little crap. Sometimes people just take kindness for weakness and you either take it or not,
I don’t remember ever seeing anything like that with any coach and referee.
Even TV Teddy didn’t do that.
Even TV Teddy didn’t do that.
The really bad part is that Alabama probably wins that game without help from the refs. It was almost as if they were more concerned with the spread and the over.
Refs have slowly ruined sports. It’s a position of ego and too much power with no consequences. Until that position is somehow replaced with ai, it will always be a sh** show of morons deliberately controlling the outcome of games based on their emotions.
Ego is correct , never ever , or rarely at best admit they sucked and blew the game . And the way they protect each other makes me want to yak
Uh Not worth prosecuting doesn't mean the guy shouldn't be concerned for his life or falsely claimed anything. I mean of things that pisses me off, that he received these messages from Kentucky fans is a million spots above, "Duh, no one was prosecuted but they don't say that, duh."
The threatening messages said:
#1 - "You should put a gun in your mouth and blow your won fricking brains out."
#2 - "If I ever see you in person I'm going to smack the taste out of your fricking mouth."
#3 - "You're going to pay buddy."
#4 - "You enjoy your life before somebody kills you."
#5 - "Hey you hear that garbage truck in the background? Wish you were in it personally you **."
#6 - "I hope the hell John Higgins falls off a roof and spends the rest of his life in a wheelchair."
#7 - "I hope you all get in a plane crash and die."
Not to debate on the effectiveness of refs because we've had three pages about that but there's something I am not understanding at all.
The logic that it's somehow Pope's fault and that Pope needs to "be tougher" with the refs.
What exactly do you think that is going to accomplish?
We had a raving lunatic roam the sidelines for 15 years.............that didn't help things with the officials at all.
The logic that it's somehow Pope's fault and that Pope needs to "be tougher" with the refs.
What exactly do you think that is going to accomplish?
We had a raving lunatic roam the sidelines for 15 years.............that didn't help things with the officials at all.
Refs were heavy for the home team but our guys didn’t do us any favors. I’m tired of the injury excuse at this point. We are deep we have Kentucky guys as the next guys up (sans chandler). We have a very deep team. Ou anf auburn at home whoever we have for those games it doesn’t matter we have to win them
I'm not necessarily sure we do have a very deep team.
The dropoff when Amari goes to the bench and BG has to come in is massive.
Plus any team losing three players like UK has would be suffering.
We weren't exactly the most talented team even completely healthy. We are playing in an absolute brutal conference.
It was going to have an effect.
I mean what are we supposed to do then. Cal couldn't yell at them, but Pope is too nice?
If you ask me this has nothing to do with Cal or Pope or any coach. It's the SEC, at the very least, trying to help other teams at the expense of Kentucky.. but at its worst there seems to be some concerted effort to hold Kentucky back by higher ups in the SEC/NCAA who have some issue with the school/basketball program. Going all the way back to when Emmert had an axe to grind with UK over Enes Kanter.
I dont know how else to explain it. It's every night almost. There's no consistency.. any call that can be a 50/50 call seems to go against us or in the opponents favor.
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Wait we have a deep team? And because we have some home town freshman were supposed to just overcome a 5v8 SEC top10 road games?
The expectations some of you put on the basketball program are just not realistic.
1) There is no question that statistically certain referees have worked a disproportionate number of UK losses over the years
2) I think people in these threads are focused on what is actually called but I am concerned about what is not being called. Isolate on Koby Brea and you will see him often being bear hugged to prevent him from getting open looks .
3) Also the inside play is much worse than several years ago when they widened the lane. And while we are on this subject one of the reasons other teams are getting more offensive rebounds is that their rebounders position themselves in the lane and never move out ...often for five or six seconds....and of course you never see three second calls anymore
4) Hand checking has gone to a different level especially at the guard position.
2) I think people in these threads are focused on what is actually called but I am concerned about what is not being called. Isolate on Koby Brea and you will see him often being bear hugged to prevent him from getting open looks .
3) Also the inside play is much worse than several years ago when they widened the lane. And while we are on this subject one of the reasons other teams are getting more offensive rebounds is that their rebounders position themselves in the lane and never move out ...often for five or six seconds....and of course you never see three second calls anymore
4) Hand checking has gone to a different level especially at the guard position.
The FBI judged there was NO THREAT..... Higgins can over react all he wants.... and he did a lot of that!
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