I watch a ton of high school and college basketball and the high school games is still fun. The officiating in college, in most games, has taken away the fun in too many games, for my liking.
Taken the fun out of BB
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I turned the game off last night. I don’t have any patience to watch the garbage caused by SEC refs. It ruins the product and makes it totally unwatchable. I will continue to do the same for every road game it occurs.
The SEC doesn’t care about my opinion. I should write a strongly worded letter.
The SEC doesn’t care about my opinion. I should write a strongly worded letter.
Last night sucked but this has been a fun season.
Refs are likely gambling anonymously.
Refs also are a brotherhood of sorts and are still poking at fans for the Higgins fiasco.
And then there's the SEC trying to make a name for themselves in the sport. Since the SEC historically has sucked at playing actual skilled, beautiful basketball, someone decided to change the format and become more "physical". This results in a hack fest and announcers and sports heads going on in a positive way about how "physical" the SEC is.
The refs, gambling and also trying to appear fair, are stuck in the middle (their own fault). The coaches that teach extreme physicality in basketball know that they have the refs in a corner. A gambling ref doesn't want to be caught mainly for manipulating the game for their financial benefit, so they balance the calls and throw in a LOT of no-calls and things that can't be quantified on a stat line.
We're essentially talking about the "they can't call them all" because it would look like total bias against that physical team.
When I hear that a team is majorly "physical", I would expect them to have a deep bench to account for the high number of fouls they will likely deliver. But every time UK faces a "physical" team, we're the ones being punished.
Furthermore, this SEC physicality translates ZERO to NCAA-T success. When the SEC refs are intermingled with other more skilled, less "physical" conference refs, they don't get the favoritism of being "physical".
The refs absolutely know that they can control a game by singling out a team's best players and also letting a lot of things go on one end while pinching every touch foul on the other. It completely deflates the opposing team when they try to be just as "physical", but can't because the refs are calibrating that team to essentially not breath on the other player. But they also know they have to be careful so as to not look completely corrupt, so they focus on the non-calls more than the calls as these can't be quantified on the stat sheet (this is why you see foul discrepancies usually nearly even by the end of a "physical" game).
The Jaxson "foul" and the Butler 3-point "foul", as well as the supposed Carr / whoever tackle double-foul were insane. And the 12-foot slide and four foot shuffle that wasn't a travel?
Refs also are a brotherhood of sorts and are still poking at fans for the Higgins fiasco.
And then there's the SEC trying to make a name for themselves in the sport. Since the SEC historically has sucked at playing actual skilled, beautiful basketball, someone decided to change the format and become more "physical". This results in a hack fest and announcers and sports heads going on in a positive way about how "physical" the SEC is.
The refs, gambling and also trying to appear fair, are stuck in the middle (their own fault). The coaches that teach extreme physicality in basketball know that they have the refs in a corner. A gambling ref doesn't want to be caught mainly for manipulating the game for their financial benefit, so they balance the calls and throw in a LOT of no-calls and things that can't be quantified on a stat line.
We're essentially talking about the "they can't call them all" because it would look like total bias against that physical team.
When I hear that a team is majorly "physical", I would expect them to have a deep bench to account for the high number of fouls they will likely deliver. But every time UK faces a "physical" team, we're the ones being punished.
Furthermore, this SEC physicality translates ZERO to NCAA-T success. When the SEC refs are intermingled with other more skilled, less "physical" conference refs, they don't get the favoritism of being "physical".
The refs absolutely know that they can control a game by singling out a team's best players and also letting a lot of things go on one end while pinching every touch foul on the other. It completely deflates the opposing team when they try to be just as "physical", but can't because the refs are calibrating that team to essentially not breath on the other player. But they also know they have to be careful so as to not look completely corrupt, so they focus on the non-calls more than the calls as these can't be quantified on the stat sheet (this is why you see foul discrepancies usually nearly even by the end of a "physical" game).
The Jaxson "foul" and the Butler 3-point "foul", as well as the supposed Carr / whoever tackle double-foul were insane. And the 12-foot slide and four foot shuffle that wasn't a travel?
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I really hope sports leagues start automating officiating wherever possible, as in put the tech to work. In football the easy and obvious example is spotting the ball and declaring first downs. In basketball I think there are a few avenues, for example:
1. Cameras monitoring out of bounds, like in tennis and goal line tech in soccer, to see when a ball hits the line, or a player steps on the line or steps on a three point line during a shot. Also to monitor for lane violations on free throws.
2. Sensors/cameras around the basket to help call goaltending and basket interference.
3. Sensors in the ball that can identify when the ball is touched, to help determine who hit it last going out of bounds. And to call shot clock violations more precisely.
Now these mostly aren’t the bad calls officials make that irk us all so much, but if you could take these calls off the plates of officials and leave them to focus more specifically on contact fouls, maybe they do a better job. One can dream.
And then eventually we get AI that can flag exaggerated body movement (ie flopping), travels and double dribbles, and even at some point contact fouls. Again, one can dream.
Not making excuses for last night, but the difference in High School and College officiating is simply one thing… Sports Gambling allowed in CBB and not allowed in High School…
It’s that simple.
Anyone that knows anything about basketball and watches games these days realizes that the crookedness is out of control. Between the betting, the conference agendas, the brotherhood of corrupt zebras, NIL, and everything else, we as fans don’t stand a chance at probably EVER seeing what we saw in our earlier lifetimes. I will continue to watch and hope the best for UK basketball, however, I definitely won’t be one of those feeding such an obviously out of control beast anymore.
The officiating during the ooc wasn’t too bad. We had some games fly by and most of them had a decent flow. That isn’t going be the case for league play it seems.
I think players should be robots. Each school could invest in a state-of-the-art robotics school and produce their own. Fans should also produce their own robots that could attend games in their place. Robots would never get tired, so they could stand the entire game.
Just spit ballin'
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Well that and fact that these guys want to please everyone and whenever they are on a homecourt they want to make sure they make sure that team gets a "favorable whistle". The #1 thing in our State the Coaches complain about every meeting leading into the season with officials is to call the game-not the score. Too many modern officials ref the score and not the game or try to "even" things out. It sucks.
But these Mega Conferences have created the need for every road game to be some life saving contest for the road team and it gets tiresome to watch. If you have an elite/special team you will overcome it or if you play in a less talented league--you can--but this foul fest is a joke. Every game has turned into a Villanova game with Jay Wright. Wright's coaching chops were great but he led the country in more 2 1/2 to nearly 3 hour games due to the fouls, replay reviews, etc....
But they will get graded well by the coaches in the league by end of year and most get NCAA assignments and are rewarded for doing the dirt of the Commissioners of the Mega Conferences.
People who invented the robots would have them complain as well. Some schools would cheat and have Hot Robots not meeting NCAA standards and sanctions
The NCAA has done next to nothing to improve college officiating. The ref answer to no one, coaches and players can't say anything negative or critical of them without getting fined/suspended. Absolutely ridiculous.
no, not last night, it was so blatant the refs would be punished by the SEC if the SEC didnt want it called that one sided. same with Tenn/UF. I promise you this, I know people who have used their business' to do deals with conferences and get kick back officiating for it. last night was probably "brought to you by Chick Fil A" or one of their other booster's companies. and no , the people I know are not UK boosters , they are boosters of other programs.
So if we want to be treated better , we need a better AD that will rally the community and boosters to do what every other team that takes Basketball and Football seriously do, its not cheating when everyone does it, its only holding yourself hostage when you wont do it.
They don’t care, look at the refs who get the nod to call E8 and FF games.
I’ve always been in favor of making the refs answer a few questions from the press. Everyone else has to take their asses out there after the game, those mfers don’t deserve anything different.
Oh, I definitely agree this year has been so refreshing, especially with our new coach snd players appreciation of the name on the jersey. Yes, I watch but it's really hard at times, having to go to the monitor almost makes me want to turn it off. I have nothing bad to say about my coach or team.
I would bet (pun intended) that refs are gambling and “influencing” the outcomes of college games. They have forever. It’s human nature. Most people will profit anyway they can and gambling on something you have some sense of control over is easy money. Especially when there is almost no way to prove what they are doing.
The refs last night were a joke no consistency, let some really rough stuff go then call a touch foul.
College refs are not like professionals refs. Most are seasonal contractors with no health insurance or benefits. That means the NCAA has limited control over them. One of the best ways to fix the current system is for the NCAA to make refs actual employees with better pay and stringent standards for keeping their jobs, like no gambling.
