Well it's been embarrassing a lot lately then. We lose to them this year (after they lost like 10 players to the draft), then the entire staff needs to shown the door.
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Well it's been embarrassing a lot lately then. We lose to them this year (after they lost like 10 players to the draft), then the entire staff needs to shown the door.
LOL! Why bother to post something like this? In every football game, 1 team wins and the other doesn't. Arbitrarily picking 1 game as the career litmus test for the coaches is either trolling or very naive.
^^^I kinda do that also.^^^
I've always thought UofL should not be on our schedule in any sport. Other than basketball Cards have become semi prominent after CATS put them on their schedule!
The rivalry aspect of this series is probably more important to Kentuckians in Louisville and Lexington. Fans living in other states may not care as much about it. If I am counting correctly, UL is 9-7 against us in years when we were not on probation. I watch each of these games with an eye on the direction of both programs. We won 4 straight over UL 2007-10, then Joker let our program slide. By the time Joker was let go, we weren't good enough to beat WKU. I am still not sure if our fans realize how close we came to beating Louisville last year on their home field. As the saying goes, close only counts in nuclear bombs. But from the standpoint of the improvement path forward under Stoops, it is significant. Programs are built on recruiting and development. In terms of roster strength, it took Stoops only 2 years to catch up with Louisville. In December, UL was thumped 37-14 by Georgia in the Belk Bowl. The previous month, we lost 63-31 to Georgia. In between those 2 games, UL beat us 44-40 in Louisville. Although we have to be careful judging relative strength of teams by common opponents, UK and UL were closely matched last year. Since then, UL has lost a whole lot of key players including 10 NFL draft choices. Louisville has lost their best receiver, 1 of their best edge rushers, and 5 players out of their back 7 on their defense. Kentucky basically lost Heard, Blue, Robinson, Miller, Bud, Za'Darius, Lowery. While Louisville will be breaking in a new defensive backfield, receiver is the most improved position on Kentucky's team. That's a good matchup for us, if our offensive line can keep Louisville's pass rushers off Towles. This year, the game will be played here in Lexington, so it is reasonable for Kentucky fans to expect a victory this time. I think the game will be competitive, won by the home team in the end.
As much as I hate to say it UofL was probably 2 TDs better than UK last year. The head to head game was close only becasue the Ville turned it over 5 times. Statistically when you turn it over 3 times you have a 90% chance of losing. 5 TOs and its nearly impossible to overcome.
This year is a different story. I think on paper Kentucky matches up very well against UofL especially in our passing game as you point out. These are two programs that are currently moving in the opposite directions IMO and I think the lines cross this year at CWS.
You're right, it has been very embarrassing. However, as with most UK coaches of the past 40 years, Stoops inherited a mess. Hopefully UK gives him a chance to turn this thing around once and for all.
I somewhat agree with this, but I'm from Lexington and only moved out of state 4 years ago. Beating Louisville does absolutely nothing for Kentucky, nothing. However, losing to them hurts Kentucky in recruiting and national perception, as has been shown in the past decade or so.
To me, it just doesn't make this game a rivalry. If Kentucky can get back to the respectability they once had and believe they will under Stoops, I would hope most fans would agree that Tennessee or another 'football' school would be a much better rival than Louisville and we could move that game back to the first game of the year or wherever it's been lately.
Nice post, but I think you are grossly under rating the power of an atomic bomb, it doesn't have to be that close.
The one thing that worries me about Transfer U is just that, transfers. And most of them have been there for a year. They also signed six JC recruits for fast help, probably not good in the long run but maybe helpful by the end of the year. Still, I expect both tactics to come back to bite them in the long run.
At this point with Louisville in the ACC and being Ranked in Football under John L Smith, Bobby Petrino and Charlie Strong most of this Century and having 14 NFL Draft Picks with 4 First Rounders the past 2 years it hurts UofL losing to Kentucky more in regards to Football then the other way around Nationally. .
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The only good Card is a dead------
Wait a minute, isn't that OUR state bird?
Apparently there is no limit to what the dirty birds will steal and defile.
I have thought for years that UofL should change their mascot to the Starling. They are nasty and crap on every thing around them and IMO are the dirty bird that best suits that program and their coaching staff.
No....School A hasn't won a Bowl Game in 6 Years....School B has Finished the Regular Season Ranked in the Top 25 8 Times-(and the last 3 Years) in the 21st Century and has been noted on this board had 14 NFL Draft Picks the past 2 years including 4 NFL 1st Rounders and also plays in a P5 League as well....which Football Program has more to lose at this point Nationally....
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Yeah, really makes you wonder about the validity of the old saying, "Cheaters never prosper". Hard to say who has prospered more from cheating at UL, jurich or hurtt, and of course BP should be in jail for misuse of public funds (among other things) instead of being paid millions to influence young athletes. Hell, I don't even believe that Strong was ignorant about what was going on in his state, especially since he had to turn down the Thug U job unless he could take hurtt with him, how is their recruiting going without hurtt, they have their own cheating system going. He would have fit in much better there than he will at Texas.
Of course Transfer U still has their poster child to lead their young men, Slick Rick, he is only a proven adulterer and abortionist, wonder how his old flame is doing since he sweet talked her into an abortion and foisted her off on his assistant?
I guess you didn't see ESPN OTL this morning....talked bout schools with issues but didn't mention Louisville...but they did RIP Florida and Florida State...here is the link...also mentioned Missouri and Auburn:
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...nfluence-factors-somes-avoid-criminal-charges
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I didn't say Thug U and Tranfer U weren't expert at what they do, practice makes perfect, although I do think juriach dodged a huge bullet when the NCAA screwed up the U investigation so badly they just wanted some place to hide.
By that same theory, Marshall is a better program than Louisville. They've certainly had more success on the field and with draft picks, not to mention the head to head over the past 30-40 years.
While apparently a case may be made that Marshall might be a better football program than Louisville, Louisville is now in the ACC and I think that gives them the advantage. Again, based on your logic.
Marshall has been Ranked only 3 Times at the end of the Regular Season since the start of the Century and only 4 Times Total and Never in their History have they produced 4 NFL 1st Rounders in a 2 year period...also Marshall has Never won or even played in a New Year's Six Bowl Game...Louisville has won 3 in the Fiesta Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl within the past 30 Years...in the 2014 NFL Draft Louisville tied with Texas A&M with the most 1st Rounders and in 2015 only Florida State had more players drafted by the National Football League...FSU had 14 players drafted and Louisville with 10....but if you want to feel that Marshall and Kentucky has the higher National Profile in Football currently then Louisville-(even though Louisville finished the last 3 Years in the Top 25) go right ahead...
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That don't prove anything.... Marshall has had 8-9 win seasons several times and not ranked... That proves nothing, except the perception that one school is in a better conference... I have my doubts about that.... Since Marshall moved up to AA they've been in as tough a conference as UL, if football....
It proves National Perception...also,you're saying the MAC & C-USA was as good as the C-USA when C-USA had TCU, Cincinnati or the old BIG EAST with WVU, Pitt etc...etc...ok...Nationally they don't get the Benefit of the Doubt....Fact is Marshall since 2002 has finished Ranked only 1 Time and that was last season and if UofL loses to Marshall when we play them @ Marshall in 2016 it will damage the image of Louisville...it is what it is...
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Marshall has not been in a conference that would allow them to play in a BCS game. Also, Louisville hasn't beaten Marshall in something like 35 years. Marshall also played some of the best teams in Louisville history during that time, I believe. Louisville thought enough of Marshall to use the same architect and pretty much the same design for their stadium, with the addition of adding chairbacks. Speaking of home field advantage, for years Marshall had the best home field winning percentage of any D1 team in the country. However, they're now down to second behind Baylor with their recent struggles. As far as end of year ranking, I believe you'll see that start to change as they seem to have reloaded again. Marshall has more famous and Super Bowl winning players in the NFL (Chad Pennington, Randy Moss, Byron Leftwich, Troy Brown, etc.). They also have won the same amount of bowl games as Louisville, playing 7 less games.
Keep in mind, Marshall has only been in D1 since 1996, just 19 years. In addition, they went through a devastating plane crash that set them back a decade or more. Not to mention, several documentaries and a movie made about the University's football team. How many movies have been made about Louisville?
Based on the last 30 years, Louisville could be in real trouble if they make it to Huntington for their game.
Nationally Marshall doesn't get the Benefit of the Doubt...look at what happened this year even against East Carolina of the AAC...Even with one loss they was ranked ahead of Marahall of C-USA in the CFP Rankings and then a 1 Loss Boise State leaped frog them...but you can believe what you want...
Fact is this...since Marshall been on the FBS Level they been ranked a Total of 4 Times since 1998 at the end of the season and only been ranked twice since 2002-(that year and this past season) while since the turn of the Century Louisville has Finished Ranked in the Top 25 during the Regular Season 8 times and after the Bowls 7 Times.
Fact is this...Louisville, Utah and TCU got the upgrade while schools like Marshall and Southern Miss-(who historically has dominated Louisville) got left behind...the Powers that Be saw that those three were worthy...that is the sad truth of College Athletics...many may not like it but it is what it is.
The problem with this was their scheduling and conference realignment. The realignment actually killed them. They're original schedule included almost all of the AAC members that left and had to be replaced with terrible teams. In addition, I believe they were also supposed to play Louisville, but Louisville requested to bump their OOC game back a year or two because of their ACC move, leaving Marshall again to scramble to find a replacement at the last minute. I believe the only team available for Louisville's date was D 1AA New Hampshire.
The scheduling this year was totally not Marshall's fault. They just played the cards they were dealt.
You know as well as I do that its all about media markets, plain and simple. Southern Miss historically is a much better program than Louisville, as well. However, both play in small media markets. I believe the Huntington- Charleston market is in the 60's, while Louisville's is in 10-30 range. While only about half of that market actually cares about Louisville, they still get to bring that market with them.
Don't kid yourself, that's why Louisville was added to the ACC. If you'll remember, no one wanted Louisville at all. However, their media market was what was marketed to all the P5 conferences
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