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State of 2023 Recruiting

24' guy, I apologize in advance for that. Posted because there are a couple of things I liked about it, pretty good company we are keeping with this one and Chris Collins liked the post. I assume he must be the Primary. Hoping he is starting to work some magic on the recruiting trail.

 
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They recruited Drenan as a slot reciever. Kid loves being a RB. But just not thick & sturdy enough to run between the tackles in SEC games.
 
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OL isn't going to be fixed by the '23 HS recruits. They need an impact transfer and I think that's were they are focused
An OL remake is underway. Say we sign Marquez Cox, Tanner Bowles, and another lineman from the portal. There is plenty of room on the roster, so this is not farfetched. Say Goodwin, Bingham, and Hall make progress this spring, which would not be farfetched either since they are talented. Say Stoops hires an OC who fits and understands physical football (which he will). We could see a major improvement in 2023. Why not? Player development happens every year, and we are talking about good players here as well as coaches with a track record of developing players.
 
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ATH Brandyn Hillman from Portsmouth, VA, recently visited Lexington. He has now narrowed his list to UK, VA Tech, UNC, ND, and USC. Hillman is the nation's #21 ranked ATH prospect. He has played QB and S at Churchland hs. He is being recruited by Coach White.
 
And Beckwith
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Somehow, it seems Drennen wound up in Stoops doghouse. Even when he did well in the spring game, Stoops refused to talk well of him AT ALL. Even when asked directly. Any insight on that situation?
Beckwith is not a RB. It doesn't matter if he is listed that way somewhere. He does not have the physical build of a RB. He is an H-back/TE and has been playing (actually, not playing) behind Jordan Dingle and Izayah Cummings.
 
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An OL remake is underway. Say we sign Marquez Cox, Tanner Bowles, and another lineman from the portal. There is plenty of room on the roster, so this is not farfetched. Say Goodwin and Hall make progress this spring, which would not be farfetched either since both linemen are talented. Say Stoops hires an OC who fits and understands physical football. We could see a major improvement in 2023. Why not? Player development happens every year, and we are talking about good players as well as coaches with a track record of developing players.
You have a point. Bottom line tk me is UK doesn’t look at all happy to assume the current Oline are going to be enough for next year. They looks dead set on adding two more starters from portal
 
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There have been a lot of campus visitors this month, and the Lexington media has not given much coverage to some of them. Brandyn Hillman is one example. All of these players are talented, legitimate SEC prospects. We can expect some encouraging news soon. Let's just say those who have been dumping on this recruiting class got ahead of themselves.
 
There have been a lot of campus visitors this month, and the Lexington media has not given much coverage to some of them. Brandyn Hillman is one example. All of these players are talented, legitimate SEC prospects. We can expect some encouraging news soon. Let's just say those who have been dumping on this recruiting class got ahead of themselves.
If UK grabs Wilcox and Keyes at RB. That is a step up from Keith and Moorman IMO
 
You have a point. Bottom line tk me is UK doesn’t look at all happy to assume the current Oline are going to be enough for next year. They looks dead set on adding two more starters from portal
Actually, there is plenty of OL talent, as you probably know. Goodwin was a 5 star. Flax, Burton. and Bingham were 4 stars. Buford and Hall were high 3 stars with impressive offer sheets. Cox was a midseason All American in 2022. Horsey made some preseason all SEC teams, and some say he may come back for another season. Few teams have that much OL talent, and UK's OL has played better in the past with less talent than this. As I suggested, Stoops will add more linemen through the portal. Our OL did not play well in 2022 and I have already commented on this quite a bit. Notwithstanding the talent, most of these players are young and should improve significantly with experience and development. I am waiting to see Coach Yenser's fate. Either way, Coach Scangarello is gone, and I feel certain our next OC will enter knowing that he must demand more from our OL beginning on the first day of spring practice.
 
If UK grabs Wilcox and Keyes at RB. That is a step up from Keith and Moorman IMO
Wilcox and Keys, if that happens, would be a very good haul. It appears that Keys decommitted from WI after talking with Coach Marrow yesterday. Either or both of them could contribute as true freshmen, if things go that way. They could do for our team what Quinshon Judkins did for Ole Miss this year. I like Trey Cornist too, but that ship may have sailed.

Jutahn McClain and LaVell Wright are better players than people around here think, but neither of them is Chris Rodriguez or Benny Snell. They have different games, but they will be productive. Too early to guess what Ramon Jefferson will do, but Stoops can get a good RB out of the portal.
 
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An OL remake is underway. Say we sign Marquez Cox, Tanner Bowles, and another lineman from the portal. There is plenty of room on the roster, so this is not farfetched. Say Goodwin, Bingham, and Hall make progress this spring, which would not be farfetched either since they are talented. Say Stoops hires an OC who fits and understands physical football (which he will). We could see a major improvement in 2023. Why not? Player development happens every year, and we are talking about good players here as well as coaches with a track record of developing players.
Not Tanner Bowles
 
Overrated out of high school never played at bama except in a mopping up. Just never impressed with him he might play for WKU
 
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There have been a lot of campus visitors this month, and the Lexington media has not given much coverage to some of them.
We are in the home stretch for recruiting 2023 hs prospects. With so many low profile campus visits this month, here is a revised list of some current UK targets-

Khamari Anderson, TE, Detroit, MI
Demitrius Bell, WR, Nashville, TN
CJ Blocker, DB, New Caney, TX
Trey Cornist, RB, Cincinnati, OH
Jmaury Davis, ATH, Clarendon, TX (TT commit)
Karmello English, slotR, Phenix City, AL
Kendrick Gilbert, DL, Indianapolis, IN (Purdue commit)
Robert Henry, RB, Ellisville, MS (Jones CC)
Devin Hyatt, WR, BNradenton, FL
Ja'Keem Jackson, DB, Kissimmee, FL (FL commit)
Jacquez Keys, RB, Ironton, OH
Jordan Louie, RB, Norcross, GA
Asa Newsom, LB, Waverly, IA
Wm. Spencer, OL, New Albany, IN
Lamar Sperling, RB, Akron, OH (Buffalo commit)
Rahmir Stewart, DB, Philadelphia, PA
D'Juan Waller, DB, Youngstown, OH
Jamarion Wilcox, RB, Douglasville, GA

I currently regard Bell, Cornist, Davis, Gilbert, Hyatt, and Louie as the least likely prospects on this list to sign with UK. But with all the coaching and transfer movement, they cannot be absolutely ruled out.

Rumors are circulating that Stoops may be close to getting commitments from Marques Cox (OL, N IL) and Ray Davis (RB, Vandy) out of the transfer portal. I am not an insider, so IDK if this is true.

Here are some other players in the transfer portal who were previously recruited by UK coming out of hs. I am not saying these players are being actively recruited, because IDK. But some of these names are bound to be contacted by UK's coaches this month-

Chief Borders, OLB, FL
Tanner Bowles, OL, AL
Travion Ford, OLB, MO
Jordan Ingram, RB, Auburn
Khyree Jackson, CB, AL
Jordan Johnson, WR, UCF
Amari Kight, OT, AL
Christian Leary, slotR, AL
Damarius McGhee, CB, LSU
Donovan McMillon, S, FL
Yousef Mugharbil, OL, FL
Rod Orr, OT, FL St
Daejon Reynolds, WR, FL
Kamar Wilcoxson, CB, FL

I still do not have a dependable read on UK's recruitment of QBs out of the portal, and I doubt we will get any good hints until a new OC is hired.

It appears that Coach Stoops has decided to hire a new RB coach who will also coach special teams. The name has not yet been announced. Coach Stoops has hinted that he is looking at 3 or 4 candidates for the vacant OC job, and that local reports of a pending announcement are "way off". Stoops said he will take the necessary time to get the right person. Liam Coen (Rams) and Gino Guidugli (UC) are names that have been speculated in the media. We know Stoops is considering a larger list. For now, Coen must be considered the favorite, but this is apparently not done.
 
Update on my nephew Kellan. He had an in-home visit with the Special Teams coach from Miami Ohio. He was a leading candidate for Purdue. They were deciding between him and another kicker after the signing period, but he was the odds on favorite. (Not sure if that was for a PWO or scholarship) With the latest developments, I'm not sure if Purdue will still be an option. He's been recruited by Louisville, but he hasn't expressed an interest in going there. I'm not sure if the Brohm move will change that. UK's interest has been disappointing, despite his best efforts to gain their attention. He's an elite level kicker as good as any P5 kicker out there.

Back to the Miami OH in-home visit. They had already offered him a PWO. They told him they want him to come in and compete t be the kickoff specialist next year. Their current Kicker will be a junior. He's a decent FG kicker but less than 50% of his kickoffs were touchbacks. If Kellan earns the starting kickoff specialist job he would earn a scholarship, with the plan he would take over FG's as well after the other guy graduates. So it's a pretty good offer for a kicker and he really likes the coach from there. Honestly I hope he doesn't rush a decision, I personally think he can land at a bigger fish, but he has to do what's best for him and go where he feels comfortable. Plus there's always the transfer portal if he thinks he can do better.
 
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Lackford made a post on HOB. He said he had talked to his source at Purdue asking what commits may go to UL. His source said he thought Gilbert was coming to UK. He said Marrow ar no point let up recruiting him after he committed to Purdue
TBH, I am surprised Brohm took the UL job. I understand the connection like everyone else does, but UL is a bad football program in a weak conference. It may be a little more money, but it is a step down professionally for him. I suppose he was successful at WKU and Purdue so maybe it hasn't really occurred to him that he might not be successful at UL. As far as I can tell, the situation in UL's athletics department right now is really bad.

Prior to this development, I thought UK had failed to flip Kendrick Gilbert and that story was over. But now that Brohm has left Purdue, I have to think Gilbert will flip to UK based on his recent visit to Lexington. From what I can tell, he has never had much interest in UL. Purdue doesn't have a coach now, so suddenly it looks good for UK. Hats off to Coaches Marrow and Stewart for staying on him.
 
IMO UL isn't a bad program, they are a typical mediocre ACC team. All not named Clemson, FSU, Miami are the same level.

It is a program UK should out recruit & beat on the field 4 out of 5 yrs

Very excited about Gilbert possibilities
 
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IMO UL isn't a bad program, they are a typical mediocre ACC team. All not named Clemson, FSU, Miami are the same level.

It is a program UK should out recruit & beat on the field 4 out of 5 yrs

Very excited about Gilbert possibilities

We can call it whatever. UL plays in the ACC, and they aren't very good. They aren't good enough to compete with strong southern football programs. That certainly applies to SEC teams, but also the better ACC programs and the B12 programs in TX.

Fans of class rankings might not like this. But when you beat a team four years in a row, you are literally outrecruiting (and outcoaching) them by definition.

Jeff Brohm was an effective coach at Purdue. He has not yet shown an ability to be a dominant recruiter, and he is now relocating to a smaller state that he must share with an SEC team with a winning record and Vince Marrow. UL's roster needs a rebuild. I think that may take Brohm some time under the circumstances, and I don't believe Satterfield's 2023 class will completely hold together this month.

Things can change fast in the world of recruiting. Last week, I would not have given you a quarter for UK's chances to sign Gilbert. Today, all signs are pointing to Gilbert signing with UK.
 
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We can call it whatever. UL plays in the ACC, and they aren't very good. They aren't good enough to compete with strong southern football programs. That certainly applies to SEC teams, but also the better ACC programs and the B12 programs in TX.

Fans of class rankings might not like this. But when you beat a team four years in a row, you are literally outrecruiting (and outcoaching) them by definition.

Jeff Brohm was an effective coach at Purdue. He has not yet shown an ability to be a dominant recruiter, and he is now relocating to a smaller state that he must share with an SEC team with a winning record and Vince Marrow. UL's roster needs a rebuild. I think that may take Brohm some time under the circumstances, and I don't believe Satterfield's 2023 class will completely hold together this month.
Brohm isn't bad and maybe some was being at Purdue but in 6 years they were ranked in the top 25 1 time for 1 week. I think he will do somewhat better at UL but prob won't be anything major
 
Brohm isn't bad and maybe some was being at Purdue but in 6 years they were ranked in the top 25 1 time for 1 week. I think he will do somewhat better at UL but prob won't be anything major
I agree. It just depends on whether Brohm can "get over the hump" in Louisville and shine a more positive light on his new program. Right now, UL football is in the desert. Brohm will need to accomplish something big that generates positive attention. Beat a highly ranked team in a bowl. Beat Clemson at Clemson. Recruit a bunch of high profile prospects from Atlanta or Nashville that Clemson, TN, and GA want. Something like that. I doubt he can do it, because he does not have a recruiting network in the south. He is certainly breaking from an outside gate, so to speak.
 
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I agree. It just depends on whether Brohm can "get over the hump" in Louisville and shine a more positive light on his new program. Right now, UL football is in the desert. Brohm will need to accomplish something big that generates positive attention. Beat a highly ranked team in a bowl. Beat Clemson at Clemson. Recruit a bunch of high profile prospects from Atlanta or Nashville that Clemson, TN, and GA want. Something like that. I doubt he can do it, because he does not have a recruiting network in the south. He is certainly breaking from an outside gate, so to speak.

They have a highly ranked recruiting class in a weak conference. I think the only place they aren't generating positive attention is in UK territory.

Edut- ffs people. It's sarcasm. People all over this board have been whining "they've passed us" etc over the last month...
 
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Fans of class rankings might not like this. But when you beat a team four years in a row, you are literally outrecruiting (and outcoaching) them by definition.

That's why it should be shocking and shaming to people here to see what Stoops and Marrow have done here at UK. We beat UF 3 OF THE PAST 5 YEARS and their recruiting classes have been ranked so far above ours during that time that there's NO WAY it should have happened.
 
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Yeah. I heard people talking about it online for months now. They're going to overtake Alabama soon because of NIL.
They're class is starting spiral. Owens gone. Rumor is Clarkson and company may decommit soon. Supposedly Lackford said he was expecting this on u6 forum
 
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Jeff Brohm was an effective coach at Purdue. He has not yet shown an ability to be a dominant recruiter, and he is now relocating to a smaller state that he must share with an SEC team with a winning record

Purdue hasn't had the success Louisville has had ever. Indiana isn't a recruiting hotbed and if you look, it's a free for all in who gets the top 10-12 kids.

Basically, Purdue is quite possibly at their 2 year peak, potentially of all time. If Brohm hasn't turned this into greater recruiting and portal success, he probably never will. The West division is about to cease to exist. USC and UCLA are joining the conference. The path to winning the Big 10 is only going to get harder.

While a lateral move at best, the chances of Louisville winning the ACC are exponentially higher than Purdue ever winning the Big 10.
 
Purdue hasn't had the success Louisville has had ever. Indiana isn't a recruiting hotbed and if you look, it's a free for all in who gets the top 10-12 kids.

Basically, Purdue is quite possibly at their 2 year peak, potentially of all time. If Brohm hasn't turned this into greater recruiting and portal success, he probably never will. The West division is about to cease to exist. USC and UCLA are joining the conference. The path to winning the Big 10 is only going to get harder.

While a lateral move at best, the chances of Louisville winning the ACC are exponentially higher than Purdue ever winning the Big 10.
All of that is indeed legit...but again. if you think the Big 10 is going to changing what do you think is in store for ACC....and especially UL down the road? CLemson, UNC Miami FSU are going to leave a sec. They dang near left rumored so earlier this year. And when it does, UL will be so far down the pecking order, the energy for hte UL job will be that of a Memphis, Houston, etc... program.

I do think UL comes out smelling like a rose to get off Satterfield without having to fire him and then getting Brohm. But Brohm's decision has to be shaky at best with this one.
 
All of that is indeed legit...but again. if you think the Big 10 is going to changing what do you think is in store for ACC....and especially UL down the road? CLemson, UNC Miami FSU are going to leave a sec. They dang near left rumored so earlier this year. And when it does, UL will be so far down the pecking order, the energy for hte UL job will be that of a Memphis, Houston, etc... program.

I do think UL comes out smelling like a rose to get off Satterfield without having to fire him and then getting Brohm. But Brohm's decision has to be shaky at best with this one.

ACC owns the TV rights until '36. I doubt anyone moves until then.
 
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