Your first sentence isn't really relevant as the topic is UK in the standings, which unlike the Top 25 has nothing to do with SOS or perception.
I agree with your comments on Bama, still wouldn't prevent me from rooting for them if it meant UK would take the East Title if UGA lost to them.
It's all conjecture, but it is interesting to see posters who would prefer that their like for a coach or dislike for a random team takes precedence over their desire to see UK as Divisional Champs.
If we're going to realistically look at getting to Catlanta, we need a win by Bama this weekend!
I believe that 6-2 can get us there, which I think is very possible assuming we beat everyone expected and split between Tennessee and UGA.
UGA can lose to Bama, and then some combination of Florida, Tennessee, or us.
Tennessee already dropped one to UF, and has to play UGA, Kentucky, @ Alabama, and @ Mizzou. I think it's safe to say they drop at least 2, maybe even 3 of those.
Florida has to play #3 Ole Miss this weekend, and they have to play UGA, @ LSU, and @ Mizzou, and I could even see them losing @ South Carolina.
6-2 is very realistic for us considering we only play 1 more ranked team the rest of the way (UGA), and have a favorable home schedule.
No amount of cheering and rooting your going to do is not going to effect the outcome what so ever. Just sit back and watch the game unbiased.
You can also look at it like this. Cheer for Bama to lose every game they play including Georgia and cheer for the opposing team to beat Georgia when they play SC, UT, Florida etc. See how easy that is?
Also if you havnt noticed but we have been in recruiting battles with Bama for kids. Georgia typically stays in state and Bama goes after kids in Ohio, Ky, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, etc. These are our stomping grounds.
Look at the big picture rather than short term. Id rather them lose on the field and lose prestige amongst recruits or your gonna keep on losing kids like Harris to them. With us winning it will pump up our brand even more to get recruits attention and we don't need asshole Saban poking his snooter up our way.
No amount of cheering and rooting your going to do is not going to effect the outcome what so ever. Just sit back and watch the game unbiased.
You can also look at it like this. Cheer for Bama to lose every game they play including Georgia and cheer for the opposing team to beat Georgia when they play SC, UT, Florida etc. See how easy that is?
Also if you havnt noticed but we have been in recruiting battles with Bama for kids. Georgia typically stays in state and Bama goes after kids in Ohio, Ky, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, etc. These are our stomping grounds.
Look at the big picture rather than short term. Id rather them lose on the field and lose prestige amongst recruits or your gonna keep on losing kids like Harris to them. With us winning it will pump up our brand even more to get recruits attention and we don't need asshole Saban poking his snooter up our way.
Once again, I stated in my comments that this was conjecture, so the first sentence becomes repetitive.
It would be nice for UGA to lose those other games, however, Bama is much more realistic.
You think Bama losing to UGA one game will help our recruiting more than UGA losing to Bama and us winning the East Title...? I'd say a divisional title can help long term.
I still have not read the reason why anyone would cheer for UGA IF we needed them to lose a game for us to win a division title.
agreed. it only helps us if we win out minus the head to head with uga.... and thats just not happening this year. i love my cats but we probably still have at least 2 losses on the schedule. uga losing won't help us with 3 or 4 losses. what does help is if the east gets some wins over the west and the perception of pollsters change and we get some love for the wins we do get. that will help us with recruiting and with the bowl pecking order.UGA losing to Bama doesn't help UK as much as you think, you still have to beat UGA, UK has to beat UGA to win the east, UGA could lose a couple of SEC games and UK would have to beat us or lose the tiebreaker. UF beats us even after losing their 2 crossover games, UK has to beat us or lose the tiebreaker to UF. UGA losing to Bama will have very little effect on the East race. For UK to win the East UF has to lose 2 games to someone, UGA has to lose 2 games with UK one of them and UK has to win out, in the SEC. I don't see any reasonable way UK can win the East without beating UGA, if it gets to 3 losses which has happened 1 time since we have had a championship game. Sure it could happen again, but extremely unlikely.
I'll agree that any realistic path to the SEC East title would have UK needing to beat Georgia. I disagree that UK would have to win out because I can easily see three SEC losses for Florida so I think we could drop one more. I'm not flatly predicting it but it's not completely out of the question either - especially now that Auburn sucks.UGA losing to Bama doesn't help UK as much as you think, you still have to beat UGA, UK has to beat UGA to win the east, UGA could lose a couple of SEC games and UK would have to beat us or lose the tiebreaker. UF beats us even after losing their 2 crossover games, UK has to beat us or lose the tiebreaker to UF. UGA losing to Bama will have very little effect on the East race. For UK to win the East UF has to lose 2 games to someone, UGA has to lose 2 games with UK one of them and UK has to win out, in the SEC. I don't see any reasonable way UK can win the East without beating UGA, if it gets to 3 losses which has happened 1 time since we have had a championship game. Sure it could happen again, but extremely unlikely.
agreed. it only helps us if we win out minus the head to head with uga.... and thats just not happening this year. i love my cats but we probably still have at least 2 losses on the schedule. uga losing won't help us with 3 or 4 losses. what does help is if the east gets some wins over the west and the perception of pollsters change and we get some love for the wins we do get. that will help us with recruiting and with the bowl pecking order.
plus i was reading some national boards after we lost to wisc in bball and it seemed that more bama fans bashed us and rejoiced in that loss than any other sec school. they can sit on a thorn bush for all i care. bunch of haters.
Mods, please ban.Hey now. As a Kentuckian there's nothing wrong with cheering for Louisville, unless you just don't like any of the other in state schools either.
Hey now. As a Kentuckian there's nothing wrong with cheering for Louisville, unless you just don't like any of the other in state schools either.
UGA losing to Bama doesn't help UK as much as you think, you still have to beat UGA, UK has to beat UGA to win the east, UGA could lose a couple of SEC games and UK would have to beat us or lose the tiebreaker. UF beats us even after losing their 2 crossover games, UK has to beat us or lose the tiebreaker to UF. UGA losing to Bama will have very little effect on the East race. For UK to win the East UF has to lose 2 games to someone, UGA has to lose 2 games with UK one of them and UK has to win out, in the SEC. I don't see any reasonable way UK can win the East without beating UGA, if it gets to 3 losses which has happened 1 time since we have had a championship game. Sure it could happen again, but extremely unlikely.
agreed. it only helps us if we win out minus the head to head with uga.... and thats just not happening this year. i love my cats but we probably still have at least 2 losses on the schedule. uga losing won't help us with 3 or 4 losses. what does help is if the east gets some wins over the west and the perception of pollsters change and we get some love for the wins we do get. that will help us with recruiting and with the bowl pecking order.
plus i was reading some national boards after we lost to wisc in bball and it seemed that more bama fans bashed us and rejoiced in that loss than any other sec school. they can sit on a thorn bush for all i care. bunch of haters.
For one thing neither team will give a crap what UK fans are thinking so it's not like it really matters. But if east wins they will be thought of in higher regard. Right now it is assumed the west is carrying the sec. So Any win we do get will be muted. If uga beats bama, ut beats lsu, Missou beats arky and whatever else.... then our win over Missou will carry more weight and if we do beat ut or uga those wins will carry more weight.Once again, this is all hypothetical.
My question is about rooting for another team even if it is detrimental to our team's success. Has nothing to do with what else we have to do.
I do not have any belief that we will be in a position to win the division based upon UGA losing a game or that we would win out or win enough to be in absolute contention.
That said, I still do not understand some UK fans and their desire to root against another team even if it was imperative that the team win a game in order for UK to gain a divisional
title.
I am just asking for the reasoning for such a thought process from those that made these statements.
Strongly disagree hmt, weight would only be necessary if you were being considered for the NC not a divisional champ. We need the west to beat the east for us to have a chance!For one thing neither team will give a crap what UK fans are thinking so it's not like it really matters. But if east wins they will be thought of in higher regard. Right now it is assumed the west is carrying the sec. So Any win we do get will be muted. If uga beats bama, ut beats lsu, Missou beats arky and whatever else.... then our win over Missou will carry more weight and if we do beat ut or uga those wins will carry more weight.
Strongly disagree hmt, weight would only be necessary if you were being considered for the NC not a divisional champ. We need the west to beat the east for us to have a chance!
I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that UGA has to have two loses and the gaytors have to have 3 for the Cats to have a chance, because I don't think the Cats win out in the SEC. So then it might as well start this weekend. Coach Brooks was able to beat UGA twice, once between the hedges. The way our defense is now playing we have a chance in any game!That just isn't correct. UF loses both its west games, UGA loses both its west games, UK wins both its west games. the UGA/UF loser will have 3 losses, the winner 2. UK loses to UGA for its second loss, loses tie breaker to UF.
UGA wins Sat. loses a game somewhere, UF still has 2 losses, UGA with 1 loss, UK has to beat UGA to win the east. That is assuming, like you that UK and UGA both run the table. If UK is going to win the east, they have to beat UGA. Rooting for us to lose is fine, but either way the game ends up, for UK to win the East is for them to beat UGA, Even with UGA losing another game, at 2 losses, UK has to win the UGA game.
For one thing neither team will give a crap what UK fans are thinking so it's not like it really matters. But if east wins they will be thought of in higher regard. Right now it is assumed the west is carrying the sec. So Any win we do get will be muted. If uga beats bama, ut beats lsu, Missou beats arky and whatever else.... then our win over Missou will carry more weight and if we do beat ut or uga those wins will carry more weight.
I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that UGA has to have two loses and the gaytors have to have 3 for the Cats to have a chance, because I don't think the Cats win out in the SEC. So then it might as well start this weekend. Coach Brooks was able to beat UGA twice, once between the hedges. The way our defense is now playing we have a chance in any game!
Why the hell would anyone cheer for UL? They are our rival. No other state school in KY competes with UK on anything close to a level playing field, and UL is the only KY school that could potentially poach instate recruits from UK.