Skal drops in new NBA mock draft; Marcus Lee is out
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Neither should even be in there this year. Murray or Ukis are really the only 2 and I don't think either of them are ready yet, either.
Imagine that. What everyone on this board has been saying for weeks. Feel sorry for Marcus, but he has no offensive game, and his defense/rebounding have both gone backwards. He might make a team in Europe, but right now, I doubt it.
LOL, what did Ulis do to DROP in the draft? He only showed, time and time again, that he us the best pg in cbb.
And my man Poythress…. Dam has he screwed this up. The guy is an Adonis and has some skill but he's all the way down at 86. Wow.
And my man Poythress…. Dam has he screwed this up. The guy is an Adonis and has some skill but he's all the way down at 86. Wow.
These mock drafts show me one thing...only at UK under Cal will guys who are not even close to first round picks so sure a thing to leave. You just have to shake your head a times and say what does it take to get some veterans back when they clearly should return. That is 100% not on Cal, as the players are making these bad decisions if they go. I'm just saying.
We'll have Willis, Lee, Matthews, Hawkins, Mulder, Humphries, and Wynyard back as veterans. That's more than usual. I love Ulis and believe he's the best overall PG Cal has had at UK but I can't help but think Fox needs to have the reigns handed over to him completely. I'm sure they could co-exist but I'm not sure it would be fair to either.
How Skal is ranked in the top 10 is beyond me. Yes, I know the NBA drafts on potential, but, has anyone seen any glimmer of potential out of the kid? He is physically weak, does not appear to have a motor, and his basketball IQ is at best average. Congrats, he can shoot the 15' jumper well. What will that get him in the league?
I love Fox's game, but if Ulis wants to return bet your ass he has the reigns. Why are we always so quick to push out great players thinking the incoming are always better? Ulis is the best option at point guard.
Small disagreement; I think Marcus does have an offensive game, but he is not very confident in it.
He made a terrific move THROUGH 2 Florida defenders to drop in a layup. I wish he'd use his moves more.
There is no way you practice 3 years under Cal and you can't find your way to the basket. He just needs to be more aggressive towards the basket. But that comes with getting foul shots, and that is indeed a weakness you gotta fix or 2nd round or not, you won't make it past summer league.
All in for Marcus getting 20+ minutes for us.
He made a terrific move THROUGH 2 Florida defenders to drop in a layup. I wish he'd use his moves more.
There is no way you practice 3 years under Cal and you can't find your way to the basket. He just needs to be more aggressive towards the basket. But that comes with getting foul shots, and that is indeed a weakness you gotta fix or 2nd round or not, you won't make it past summer league.
All in for Marcus getting 20+ minutes for us.
Whenever things go south there is talk of a teams confidence or a players confidence. I like what Cal says about the topic (i.e. that building confidence is about demonstrated performance). You practice hard and it pays off when you do well in games, then you have confidence. Everything else is an excuse.
LOL Murray will be the 1st SG drafted and he is more then ready whatever that means. Ulis ain't getting better as he is the best pg now. Both of those guys should leave but I won't complain if Ulis comes back since he will never be a 1st rounder.
Great Post . Lee is very talented just doesn't have the confidence to score like he is capable of.
That's not what I'm saying. You're damn straight Ulis is the best option at PG if he returns but he's going to have a dang hard time duplicating what he's doing this season playing less minutes and having more offensive options available inside and out.
He may have an offensive game, but if so, he has done just a great job of hiding it. It is tough for me to think he has enough game to make it to the league when he makes one move in 10 games, and fouls out of 4 of 5 games.
I think he is a great kid, and I wish the best for him, but unless he improves his game, there is no way he will be drafted, and rightfully so.
Honestly I do not know he plays that many less minutes. We could go 3 guards with Ulis, Fox and Monk. And honestly we only have 3 guards that will play so all 3 will get 30+ mins with ease IMO. If Ulis came back no reason to play him 37-40 mins per game and kill him. If he comes back next year's team is more like last year's to an extent, at least in the front court. I think we are light in the backcourt so those 3 will get all the mins. I kinda cringe at our backup guards to Fox and Monk if Ulis or Briscoe does not return.
Ulis playing 30 a game on a loaded team will get tons of looks from the NBA. I doubt it hurts him at all. Having said that, 1% chance he returns at best IMO.
That's fair. I do think you're selling our backup guards a little short. Hawkins, Matthews, and Mulder are suitable backups especially with two of them being SR's. With Lee likely coming back he'll be a valuable upper classmen coming off the bench, along with Humphries and Wynyard. If Willis keeps playing like he has I think he begins next year as a starter. I don't know if he'll hold onto it but I think he gets the nod early. If we get Bolden my initial starting line up next year is:
Fox
Monk
Willis
Bam
Bolden
Without Bolden:
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Willis
Bam
This is assuming Ulis, Murray, Skal, and Briscoe all leave.
I have a hard time seeing Briscoe as a 1st round pick. I don't think Calipari will suggest he leaves barring a miraculous turnaround.
Ulis, as I've said all year, will be back at UK next year and will go even higher.
Ulis is the type of guard that gets better, year to year. I wouldn't worry about him dipping in much. He'd be fine.
I keep hearing some of the scouts love Briscoe's game. Hard to believe because he has no outside shot and can't hit f/t's.
Oh I'm not worried about his performance taking a dip but I think his numbers would have to with all the other options we'd have on the floor, not to mention the likelihood his minutes will drop a little.
I still believe Ullis finds his way into the 1st round. Despite his height, he is a player and maybe the best PG in the country right now. Think a team takes a chance on him.
I am praying that he stays one more year though. If Ullis stays and we get Bolden, I think UK is destined to win it all in 2017.
I am praying that he stays one more year though. If Ullis stays and we get Bolden, I think UK is destined to win it all in 2017.
If Ulis came back, we'd start:
Ulis
Fox
Monk
Willis/Gabriel/Bolden depending on how they've progressed
Bam
..and we'd have 2 of Willis/Gabriel/Bolden coming off the bench, Senior Dom, Soph Matthews, possibly Senior Lee and Soph Briscoe, the Big Aussie, the Big Kiwi.
Okay, that's a pipe dream. I don't think Ulis is coming back, and I'm willing to bet Lee won't, either. Briscoe I dunno.
Re: Ulis, we'll be good either way - one of the contenders by March without him, for certain.
But man, if we kept general Ulis around for next year - it would be a lambs to the slaughter type of season.
Ulis
Fox
Monk
Willis/Gabriel/Bolden depending on how they've progressed
Bam
..and we'd have 2 of Willis/Gabriel/Bolden coming off the bench, Senior Dom, Soph Matthews, possibly Senior Lee and Soph Briscoe, the Big Aussie, the Big Kiwi.
Okay, that's a pipe dream. I don't think Ulis is coming back, and I'm willing to bet Lee won't, either. Briscoe I dunno.
Re: Ulis, we'll be good either way - one of the contenders by March without him, for certain.
But man, if we kept general Ulis around for next year - it would be a lambs to the slaughter type of season.
Ulis is our best player. If he comes back next year, and I really hope he does, he's not getting less minutes.
No way.
No way.
I hope you're right. That would probably cause some lineup issues but I would take him back in a second.
As a UK fan I am biased toward UK's players. However, as of right now, there is no way Skal or Lee would ever play in the NBA. Skal can at least hit jumpers and FT's, but little else. Lee can't even do that. I don't want to sound mean, but that is the truth.
I think it all comes down to what Ulis and the team accomplishes in the NCAAT. If he has a chance to showcase his skills up to the FF he's gone. If UK is ousted early he may come back.
I said he could be one of 3 starters.
He's the most talented offensive player of the 3, but he's the worst rebounder and athlete, and Gabriel is better on defense.
I would imagine scouts like his tough nose style of play, especially on defense. He's shown he can hit outside shots, just hasn't done it consistently. No excuse for FTs, but I'm sure a scout looks at that as an easy fix.
The view from this keyboard........
- If Skal can get picked 10th he'd better get a lawyer, lock that in and head for the nearest bank
- Bolden... I'm sure he believes he can play over Skal right now. S'ship numbers get dicey if Skal stays
- Briscoe... can't see him going. Got to have one outstanding NBA level skill to go in 1st round. Don't see it.
- Ullis... I am of the camp he is reaching his peak now. Don't see how he can improve (he's so good now!) by coming back. Plus, your legs only have so many years in them. He's good enough to get paid somewhere. Might as well earn two more years of $$$$.
- Lee...... see Briscoe
I've said the whole time Ulis will be back also. I just don't see him leaving. I think Lee leaves one way or another because he wont be playing much, and he knows it. He'd still get picked up as an UDFA or maybe still go late 2nd.
Ulis
Fox
Monk
Bam
Bolden
Willis
Gabriel
SKJ
Mathews
Hawkins
Humphries
Mulder
Wynyard
Ulis
Fox
Monk
Bam
Bolden
Willis
Gabriel
SKJ
Mathews
Hawkins
Humphries
Mulder
Wynyard
dUKe will lose Ingram, Jefferson, Plumlee, and possibly Allen. Not to mention Chase Jeter could possibly transfer. Coach K doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in him and may end up buried on the bench.
I don't think Ulis returns. It has little to do with his game, just the fact that he is not getting any taller. Next years draft should be stronger too which would hurt him as well. I agree that he is the best overall guard we have had under Cal and that is saying something. What a shame his talent has had by far the weakest front court.
Nothing about Lee's game says NBA. He can't guard without fouling, has no offensive game other than being a garbage man. Can't put the ball on the floor and a terrible passer. Pretty much the same for Alex. The league is hard to make and teams have better options.
Nothing about Lee's game says NBA. He can't guard without fouling, has no offensive game other than being a garbage man. Can't put the ball on the floor and a terrible passer. Pretty much the same for Alex. The league is hard to make and teams have better options.
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