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Bol has had videos up for at least a couple of years. Really nice how he's come along.It was posted a couple of weeks ago, but I watched it again. Judging solely from this video, Bagley's the beast he was advertised to be, and Bol's a future pro as well, even if his ceiling isn't in the same stratosphere as bagley's.
Not excited about Bol Bol's game or athleticism. His actions and stilted movement remind me of his father. But I'm not a HOF coach, and I've only seen some very limited video. So, you don't have to remind me that my opinion has no real value outside of my own head.
Bagley is decent at this basketball thing
Yeah, I'm still not sold on Bol as a top 5 player in the class, but I can also see why scouts are high on him.I think it's a legitimate observation and question. Anytime a guy is that size, it's worth discussing whether he can move and play at a high level.
I also think we have to remember that these are 17 year olds built like giraffes and sometimes it isn't pretty. They have to grow into their bodies.
Besides, Manute played a long time in the NBA. If his kid is that good as the floor of what he might be, I think he'll do just fine.
Scouts are obviously impressed by his shooting stroke and insane size/length. Even if he just roams the paint, rebounds, and plays pick-and-pop on offense, he's a weapon.
Yeah, I'm still not sold on Bol as a top 5 player in the class, but I can also see why scouts are high on him.
He plays for a national level HS program (Santa Ana Mater Dei) and while he was clearly very good for them, he wasn't dominant. His meteoric rise is based on the 1st 2 EYBL sessions (the game against Bagley was in one of those), and while there's no question that the talent level in the EYBL is very strong, the games themselves are always going to be pretty loosely coached affairs, with a lot of sloppy, unfocused defense.
My question with Bol is what happens when he consistently runs into multiple 230-240 lbs plus guys who are only 3-5 inches shorter than him, not 6-8, and who are fully developed men with elite athletic ability. We know from genetics and build that Bol is never, ever going to be very thick, especially in the legs. You're right that, especially if the shooting continues to improve (and his FT% indicates that his touch is legit), Bol will always have the ability to be a weapon in certain ways, but will he be able to do anything besides take jump shots, and will he really be able to anchor a defense in the paint, as opposed to being a menacing help side defender, able to swoop in for blocks, but struggling to really stop anyone who challenges him (see Skal for a superb example of that)?
I don't know, and my preference runs towards more versatile, athletic big guys anyway.
I always have reservations of son to a father...Manute Bol was good only for his height and occasional shot blocking abilities... thats itBagley looks fantastic and plays mean and tough with great aggressive moves. He seems much more polished in all parts of his game. He's just a player with an attitude and I loved seeing that in him. Bol is also pretty good but is more a work in progress but with a great deal of promise/potential. Bol seems a little lost on defense at times and has a look of not being sure just what to do on the court. That's something he could really benefit from working with Cal and Payne. Hope we get both really. Thanks for the link, OP, I hadn't seen it before.
At the time being 7' whatever in the NBA was an anomaly....I always have reservations of son to a father...Manute Bol was good only for his height and occasional shot blocking abilities... thats it
Worse dangers with Bagley than even Ayton, because Bagley is already 18. That means he meets the age requirement for the 2018 draft. If he can convince the NBA that he's actually graduating HS in June, he can enter the draft without ever playing a game in college.Not to rain on this parade, because the kid is incredible, but there are very real dangers that Bagley never plays in college. I think it's worth monitoring DeAndre Ayton's issues this year, because Bagley will be facing a similar, if not more difficult, road.
On this one though, I hope we stay in it until the end. I want his committment, even if he never plays. He's worth that risk.
Worse dangers with Bagley than even Ayton, because Bagley is already 18. That means he meets the age requirement for the 2018 draft. If he can convince the NBA that he's actually graduating HS in June, he can enter the draft without ever playing a game in college.
And as the NBA showed with Thon Maker (another player with whom there were rumors of potential academic problems), they're not going to be a stickler for the details on that. They're mainly concerned with the age, not the academics, so if someone is willing to give Bagley a HS diploma (even if he wouldn't qualify by the NCAA's standards), it's highly unlikely that the NBA would fight against him being in the 2018 draft.
Not knowing his personal info, I hope he goes somewhere for a year of college. If for nothing else, it would be a great experience and some great memories he would cherish forever before heading to the NBA and his "job".