Seems Like Pitino Is Taking Left Overs
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Ul wasn't the only one that missed free throws, if ul hit all their free throws (they hit 20/29) and Mich St hit theirs(15/20) ul still won't have won. The final score then would have been 81-79.
No, your coach got abused by Izzo, just like he did in the 09 Elite 8 game. Kinda reminded me of how Cal abuses the Crypt keeper every year.
We hang banner for final fours though. Something UK has done four out the last five years.
Kids want to go where they can win a championship not to uK? You mean like LSU, Miss St, Illinois, UNLV???
I did not say any UL recruits were 5 star. What I was trying to say was that Mitchell probably has 5 star talent. The fact that he was the MVP in 2 ALL Star games my suggest that he is going to be pretty good.
Just remember there is 4 star kids every year who turn out to be better than some 5 star kids. Not all 5 star kids are locks to be lottery picks.
Then you must really struggle since UK has only won 8 titles in its entire history.
If you read my ENTIRE post you would see that I said "kids want a national championship, or full playing time." The recruits we are missing WILL get full playing time at LSU, Miss St, Illinois, and UNLV. Full playing time will not happen in Lexington. A championship may not happen either if Cal continues his ways.
Were you deprived of oxygen at birth or did you acquire your mental defect over time with meth and malt liquor?
Rick by no means is taking leftovers from anyone. However in taking these fifth year seniors, I think it fair to examine his own words on the "one and done" scenario. Many may remember his little press snipets that he doesn't recruit OAD's because he gets too emotionally envolved with his players and couldn't stand to see them leave after one year? How is this different with graduate seniors? Now let's review Pitino's statements after Cal put another whippin on him in Dec. On his call in show a fan told him he was tired of losing to UK and how he could explain his inability to beat the cats? Rick said these things very often run in cycles and Ky has enjoyed a winning streak although he felt that L-ville was about to go on a run of their own. Rick typically doesn't do well with freshmen because of his zone defense and especially with players who consider themselves OAD. Why bother learning a defense that your never going to play in the NBA? Make no mistake Rick taking fifth year graduates is his way of trying to keep up with the Big man in the state.
He can't attract a 5 star so he takes 5th year players and transfers..I guess he needs bodies for Little Brother to field a team..The players he's getting are less than stellar..but they'll be the Best of The Best when he gets done with them..
He's won as many championships as Cal has since he's been here.
And how many years has Pitino been at UL? Cal at UK? I swear some of you people don't think before posting.
Rick will always be Cal's bitch just like UL will always be UK's bitch...
Just the proper order of things since time immemorial.
Just the proper order of things since time immemorial.
and one could just as easily ask who has had the boatload of 5star talent each & every year....but neither that point, nor yours, would change the truth of what he posted.
Lol. The best comparison is what did Pitino do his first 5 years at UL and what Cal has done at UK. Throw in that Cal has owned Pitino while at UK and it's not even close who is the overall best coach. Pitino is a very distant second.
lol....so you randomly choose the first 5 years at UL & UK as the point to which you use to judge the better coach. I coulda swore they both coached prior to those years, but I could be mistaken I guess.
great take....after all, ive only been here for 10-12 years...
Heck, I got all those 8,000 posts yesterday....but, yeah, I'll be gone before summer is over...
lol
It's not random. However, let's compare the last 5 years if you want. Pitino still comes in second.
You show you aren't very good at the game. But that evident based on your posting history. It's moronic to compare coaches at that stage. It would be like comparing Coach K in the early 80s to Bob Knight during the same period as to who is the better coach today. Maybe someone with intelligence can explain that to you.
...yeah, good point....its much better to pick a random 5 year period such as the ones you want to use, than the random 5 year period that I wanted to use.
I see what you mean... lol
If you think the last 5 years are random then that is your problem. It would be like a UC fan saying UC is the better program today because they had two NCAA titles in the early 60s. Cal is the better coach today- in tournament success, heads up play and recruiting. There is no debate. The stats speak for themselves.
"hall monitor alert..."
you've got to be kidding...reporting posts? Just because you don't like or agree with them? and for the record, ive never, not once, even visited a louseyville board. But obviously you have.
Coach A-- in last 5 years-- 155-35- 1 NC- 3 Final Fours- 1 NIT
Coach B- in last 5 years-- 148-40- 1 NC- 1 Final Four- 0 NIT
the numbers don't really say "no debate," or "hands down."
Pretty dang good numbers by both coaches...
And yes, picking a 5 year period out of any coaches 15-20 year career to base your argument is the definition of random.
In the last 5 years, Calipari has 4 final fours, not 3. IOW, twice as many. Might as well fudge the numbers when it comes to comparing Cal and Rick. Anything to get to a place where you can say it's competitive. How odd that we find him once again defending Rick at Cal's expense, on a UK board no less. Bruce Jenner can out of a closet this week, to much fanfare. Come on, 3rex, you can do it! Be honest with yourself. You're.......a..........Louisville.......fan. Just say it. It's easy. You'll feel so much better about yourself.
its not that hard Mojo...most people do not count a National Championship as a National Championship AND a Final Four year.
But if you want to, fine by me....just add one to each side.
For the record, I never took issue at all with irish's position on who the best coach is. It can certainly be argued reasonably either way. I was just pointing out the disingenuousness of picking out a random 5 year period to do so.
Both guys can flat coach. If I want to make an argument for either, I should be able to do so on their entire body of work, not just their best 5 year stretch, or the random 5 year period I decide to pick.
Coaches evolve with experience. The last five years is a good indication. If you prefer the last ten years, let's look at the numbers. But the last five years, Cal has four final fours, a title and an NIT. Pitino has three final fours and a title. He also has a poor record against Cal straight up and has lost to Cal in the NCAA tourney twice. Look, I think Pitino is a very good coach. But I think Cal is the better total package at this time. You obviously disagree.
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