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It’s senseless to play this thing with 9 scholarship players. Even if we land another it’s insanity to put strain on our players 7 months before the tournament. It’s a recipe for peaking early. If we are going to go into the season light on depth we cannot afford things like starting last season without Fredrick and toppin. The likelihood of injury is high when you don’t max out the roster. It will be nice and team building but could become an albatross come March.

there is zero margin for error with this roster. Last year was thin all year with constant injuries. This year one or two injuries could send the team reeling. A large part of the injury plague that cal has endured since 2013 imo is due to over training. Not just conditioning but also cal runs physically demanding practices even during the season. Any coach who does this is asking for injuries.

the bahamas was great for the 2015 team because we had basically two teams without a massive gap between them. This team i sense trouble already brewing. Fredrick and toppin have proven to be injury prone, wheeler as well. By the time we head to the bahamas that’s it. The roster will be set. A Fredrick injury and bam the season is in peril.

I always believe you play the way you practice which is why it’s important to have a full roster. There have to be opportunities for players at different times to rest. If you have a 10 man team then you’re working the hell out of those 10 men to get 5v5 in practice. If one gets injured it throws off the ability to run ideal practices.

overtraining is one of the biggest threats to high level athletes. If we had a full roster then play it. But with 9-10 guys stay home. Limit the gym times, save it for the regular season. Even then you have to pace yourself. Meaning dialing down practices between games. Sometimes doing light conditioning but limiting actual basketball activities. By running with a lean team cal puts himself in a corner to coach the way he does. The “run”” “go” mentality, pushing players in that way is terrible when you don’t have the horses.

I believe cal is great at getting players to play their ass off and leave it all on the floor. In order to do that though you have to have a maxed out roster. Part or Cals lack of success since 2015 is the teams are thin and he still rides them into the ground. I think of the 2019 team not being able to have pj and Reid together for a long late season stretch. That was a bahamas year and it seemed to wear on the players at least by season end they were injured and gassed. This past season our guards were gassed and injured at the wrong time. If you’re gonna make March runs it starts in November and December. You have to win to get that one seed but when you’re playing cupcakes you have to play deep into the bench. Unfortunately we don’t have that option so it seems this year so do the right thing. Cancel the Bahamas trip. Start light with these guys when they can begin practicing in July. Even though it’s voluntary you make a call to your captain (Oscar) and tell him to go do something fun instead of pushing in July. Sure let them play here and there but probably 50% of what they did last year in the preseason.
 
It's hard not to worry about CJ.Poor guy has been hurt every season and has had zero luck.Sad because he is a great guy and love UK.
 
I not believe UK will stay at 9. They will add players
Seems like one more. 10 isn’t enough. Cal is hurting the team and himself by not loading the roster. He coaches like these guys have super human abilities. 13 is the roster limit for a reason.
 
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It’s senseless to play this thing with 9 scholarship players. Even if we land another it’s insanity to put strain on our players 7 months before the tournament. It’s a recipe for peaking early. If we are going to go into the season light on depth we cannot afford things like starting last season without Fredrick and toppin. The likelihood of injury is high when you don’t max out the roster. It will be nice and team building but could become an albatross come March.

there is zero margin for error with this roster. Last year was thin all year with constant injuries. This year one or two injuries could send the team reeling. A large part of the injury plague that cal has endured since 2013 imo is due to over training. Not just conditioning but also cal runs physically demanding practices even during the season. Any coach who does this is asking for injuries.

the bahamas was great for the 2015 team because we had basically two teams without a massive gap between them. This team i sense trouble already brewing. Fredrick and toppin have proven to be injury prone, wheeler as well. By the time we head to the bahamas that’s it. The roster will be set. A Fredrick injury and bam the season is in peril.

I always believe you play the way you practice which is why it’s important to have a full roster. There have to be opportunities for players at different times to rest. If you have a 10 man team then you’re working the hell out of those 10 men to get 5v5 in practice. If one gets injured it throws off the ability to run ideal practices.

overtraining is one of the biggest threats to high level athletes. If we had a full roster then play it. But with 9-10 guys stay home. Limit the gym times, save it for the regular season. Even then you have to pace yourself. Meaning dialing down practices between games. Sometimes doing light conditioning but limiting actual basketball activities. By running with a lean team cal puts himself in a corner to coach the way he does. The “run”” “go” mentality, pushing players in that way is terrible when you don’t have the horses.

I believe cal is great at getting players to play their ass off and leave it all on the floor. In order to do that though you have to have a maxed out roster. Part or Cals lack of success since 2015 is the teams are thin and he still rides them into the ground. I think of the 2019 team not being able to have pj and Reid together for a long late season stretch. That was a bahamas year and it seemed to wear on the players at least by season end they were injured and gassed. This past season our guards were gassed and injured at the wrong time. If you’re gonna make March runs it starts in November and December. You have to win to get that one seed but when you’re playing cupcakes you have to play deep into the bench. Unfortunately we don’t have that option so it seems this year so do the right thing. Cancel the Bahamas trip. Start light with these guys when they can begin practicing in July. Even though it’s voluntary you make a call to your captain (Oscar) and tell him to go do something fun instead of pushing in July. Sure let them play here and there but probably 50% of what they did last year in the preseason.
Could you make your post a little longer. I love reading novels.
 
Good thing we aren't going to have 9 scholarship players then, you really spent all that time writing this thinking we arent going to add anybody when it is only May 2nd?
Cal said he would add maybe 1 or 2 more. That includes Thiero, unranked, and an as yet unnamed player. We have room for 13. Why does Cal not want to fill out the roster?
 
Keep your britches on. It’s not over till it’s over. Cal will get a few more players. Plus, who the hell are you to make a decision on whether we should go to the Bahamas or not. Some of you fans are morons.
 
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Seems like one more. 10 isn’t enough. Cal is hurting the team and himself by not loading the roster. He coaches like these guys have super human abilities. 13 is the roster limit for a reason.
Last year Duke had 10 scholarship players, Baylor had 10, Arizona had 11. And keep in mind on all of these teams there were players that were literally basically walk on level that were put on "scholarship". It isnt the end of the world if we only have 10 or 11 guys on scholarship and I know once we add a player that looks to be pretty average to fill those 10 and 11 spots people will freak out about him "not being good enough" for a roster spot.
 
Cal said he would add maybe 1 or 2 more. That includes Thiero, unranked, and an as yet unnamed player. We have room for 13. Why does Cal not want to fill out the roster?
Your really upset about Cal not filling the 12 and 13th spot with a "scholarship player"? Said player would be the quality of a walk-on or MAYBE a little better.
 
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Last year Duke had 10 scholarship players, Baylor had 10, Arizona had 11. And keep in mind on all of these teams there were players that were literally basically walk on level that were put on "scholarship". It isnt the end of the world if we only have 10 or 11 guys on scholarship and I know once we add a player that looks to be pretty average to fill those 10 and 11 spots people will freak out about him "not being good enough" for a roster spot.
Have those teams been as injury prone as UK over the years.When was the last season UK wasn't hit with injuries.
 
It’s senseless to play this thing with 9 scholarship players. Even if we land another it’s insanity to put strain on our players 7 months before the tournament. It’s a recipe for peaking early. If we are going to go into the season light on depth we cannot afford things like starting last season without Fredrick and toppin. The likelihood of injury is high when you don’t max out the roster. It will be nice and team building but could become an albatross come March.

there is zero margin for error with this roster. Last year was thin all year with constant injuries. This year one or two injuries could send the team reeling. A large part of the injury plague that cal has endured since 2013 imo is due to over training. Not just conditioning but also cal runs physically demanding practices even during the season. Any coach who does this is asking for injuries.

the bahamas was great for the 2015 team because we had basically two teams without a massive gap between them. This team i sense trouble already brewing. Fredrick and toppin have proven to be injury prone, wheeler as well. By the time we head to the bahamas that’s it. The roster will be set. A Fredrick injury and bam the season is in peril.

I always believe you play the way you practice which is why it’s important to have a full roster. There have to be opportunities for players at different times to rest. If you have a 10 man team then you’re working the hell out of those 10 men to get 5v5 in practice. If one gets injured it throws off the ability to run ideal practices.

overtraining is one of the biggest threats to high level athletes. If we had a full roster then play it. But with 9-10 guys stay home. Limit the gym times, save it for the regular season. Even then you have to pace yourself. Meaning dialing down practices between games. Sometimes doing light conditioning but limiting actual basketball activities. By running with a lean team cal puts himself in a corner to coach the way he does. The “run”” “go” mentality, pushing players in that way is terrible when you don’t have the horses.

I believe cal is great at getting players to play their ass off and leave it all on the floor. In order to do that though you have to have a maxed out roster. Part or Cals lack of success since 2015 is the teams are thin and he still rides them into the ground. I think of the 2019 team not being able to have pj and Reid together for a long late season stretch. That was a bahamas year and it seemed to wear on the players at least by season end they were injured and gassed. This past season our guards were gassed and injured at the wrong time. If you’re gonna make March runs it starts in November and December. You have to win to get that one seed but when you’re playing cupcakes you have to play deep into the bench. Unfortunately we don’t have that option so it seems this year so do the right thing. Cancel the Bahamas trip. Start light with these guys when they can begin practicing in July. Even though it’s voluntary you make a call to your captain (Oscar) and tell him to go do something fun instead of pushing in July. Sure let them play here and there but probably 50% of what they did last year in the preseason.
The world from the eyes of a quitter.
 
Your really upset about Cal not filling the 12 and 13th spot with a "scholarship player"? Said player would be the quality of a walk-on or MAYBE a little better.
Based on the injuries we had last year, don't you agree we could have used an extra guy or two, assuming Cal still has the ability to develop a bench?
 
Have those teams been as injury prone as UK over the years.When was the last season UK wasn't hit with injuries.
What player that would be suitable to fill in a play a sizable role will come and accept being a 11 or 12th man here and knowing they would only play if multiple injuries occur?
 
Last year Duke had 10 scholarship players, Baylor had 10, Arizona had 11. And keep in mind on all of these teams there were players that were literally basically walk on level that were put on "scholarship". It isnt the end of the world if we only have 10 or 11 guys on scholarship and I know once we add a player that looks to be pretty average to fill those 10 and 11 spots people will freak out about him "not being good enough" for a roster spot.

They’re already bitching about possibly adding Adou Thiero as 10th man, and he hasn’t even officially committed yet.
 
Based on the injuries we had last year, don't you agree we could have used an extra guy or two, assuming Cal still has the ability to develop a bench?
It would have been nice, but that "extra guy" would be on about the level as Brennan Canada or maybe a little better.
 
What player that would be suitable to fill in a play a sizable role will come and accept being a 11 or 12th man here and knowing they would only play if multiple injuries occur?
you won't find a star but I bet you could better than an unranked player.
 
Hes actually the perfect 10th man in all honesty. Ranked low enough and seems to be willing to come here knowing his role and seems to be a multi year guy
But we need another shooter ready to play now.2 shooters on the team with 1 coming off a huge injury.
 
you won't find a star but I bet you could better than an unranked player.
Your really just splitting hairs at the point and its not something to be upset about. In this day and age most guys arent going to come here as a 12th man and be OK with not playing a minute when they can go to Missouri or Boston College and be one of the first guys off the bench and push for a starting spot
 
What player that would be suitable to fill in a play a sizable role will come and accept being a 11 or 12th man here and knowing they would only play if multiple injuries occur?
That is a good point, but isn't that Cal's problem and why he earns that princely salary?
 
Your really just splitting hairs at the point and its not something to be upset about. In this day and age most guys are going to come here as a 12th man and be OK with not playing a minute when they can go to Missouri or Boston College and be one of the first guys off the bench and push for a starting spot
I just don't want to hear Cal whining when we have our usual injuries about not having enough player to scrimmage when it's his own fault.
 
How good of a player you think you will get if he’s going to be the 11-12-13 for getting any playing time
 
He coaches them like they’re 18 to 22 year old well-conditioned athletes. How dare he!?!

or course if you haven’t actually had to condition young players before you would think that BUT it’s not the case. Over training is a major problem for athletes in that age range because people think like you and run them into the ground
 
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Last year Duke had 10 scholarship players, Baylor had 10, Arizona had 11. And keep in mind on all of these teams there were players that were literally basically walk on level that were put on "scholarship". It isnt the end of the world if we only have 10 or 11 guys on scholarship and I know once we add a player that looks to be pretty average to fill those 10 and 11 spots people will freak out about him "not being good enough" for a roster spot.
Terrible example bc one lost in the second rd because of my exact point. Arizona lost sweet sixteen and duke was loaded with talent and should have walked away with a title
 
or course if you haven’t actually had to condition young players before you would think that BUT it’s not the case. Over training is a major problem for athletes in that age range because people think like you and run them into the ground

Pretty sure that the same HS seniors that play 5 games per weekend during AAU tournaments can handle 2 games per week a year later as a college freshman.
 
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