say what you will about Willis....
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Kybass...that is ignorant...what are you talking about??
Apparently nothing you'd understand. If you pull your nose out of Willis butt and read some of your posts about him, maybe you would get a clue.
Or not.
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I'd say we're potentially better because he does stretch the floor a bit. Now if he would make some of those open 3s the OP would be absolutely correct. He missed 2 consecutive wide open 3s from the corner. He needs to make at least one of those. He has the potential to be instant offense but he has to make it happen; not an easy task to come in cold and light it up, but that's his opportunity.
But we aren't a better team with Willis on the floor! He's soft, inconsistent and just doesn't have a winners mentality.
Willis needs to play more and I'm not a fanboy.
I just don't understand the short hook with him this season when he's actually performed. I've seen enough of Proythress to know that while he can have a great game...he can also appear lost and overwhelmed; inconsistent and poor play in great stretches. I can't say Willis has had the same opportunity especially when Willis gives this team at least the hope of something it really, really, really needs: stretching the defense via perimeter shooting.
I just don't understand the short hook with him this season when he's actually performed. I've seen enough of Proythress to know that while he can have a great game...he can also appear lost and overwhelmed; inconsistent and poor play in great stretches. I can't say Willis has had the same opportunity especially when Willis gives this team at least the hope of something it really, really, really needs: stretching the defense via perimeter shooting.
How many wide wide open 3s did Murray miss tonite???? A bunch but his name isnt Willis so he gets a pass...thats why the Willis fans get upset...Murray is allowed to just keep shootin
Dude you just bait people into bashing him. I could tear you to shreds on that last sentence with hard stats but I gotta say bad stuff about Willis so I won't. He is a KY player and deserves more respect.
I rest my case on the fact that you are an admitted Willis fan. You'll spew any sort of crap like some sort of teeny bopper Justin Beiber fan. You cherry pick stats and goad folks into posting bad stuff about Willis to refute this drivel you spout. Calipari gets paid millions to do his job. Willis is happy exactly where he is because he could leave and play elsewhere if he wants. You aren't doing him any favors with all this fanboi garbage.
Willis would be better off if you'd just shut the heck up about him and let him make his own way. He's doing better than he ever has. Stop embarrassing him.
He needs to get 5 looks from 3 per game and he will come around to be a reliable perimeter threat. Just needs the looks to build the confidence. He could be a zone buster. Defensively he is liability though unless he can dial up that motor and become a man
That's the thing the op doesn't seem to grasp about Willis. Sure, UK may be a tad better offensively with him in the game, but they are also much worse defensively. Yeah, Willis can come in the game and hit a couple threes (six points), but at the other end of the court he constantly gets lost on his rotations, gets bullied down low and gives up five easy baskets (10 points). So, in the end, even with Willis' couple of three pointers, UK is still -4 on the scoreboard.
What a horrible take. By that standard only Ulis and Briscoe should see the floor.
Yes, it sure as hell is "debatable." Yeesh, let's compare how forwards did tonight:
Poythress--9 of 12 from the field, 3 for 3 from the line, grabbed 13 boards, scores 21 points
Lee--5 of 5 from the field, 1 for 1 from the line, 8 boards, 5 blocks, 11 points
Willis--1 of 3 from the field, 0 for 2 on threes, 1 board, 2 points
Yet, somehow the takeaway from that game by some fans is that we're "much better" offensively with Willis in and that's "not debateable"? Huh? I seriously wonder if some of you guys are even watching the same games as me.
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Really? The guy is a 29 percent career three point shooter, which I assume you know is considered quite crappy in the real world. Sorry, but the words "zone buster" should NEVER ever be used in reference to a player whose career three percentage begins with a 2.
I think Willis is getting about the appropriate amount of minutes, but this is the most compelling case to the contrary - Cal's leash with Murray and his ill advised shots is longer than any player I can remember.
Murray could still be in high school and has always played with the ball in his hands; he's adjusting to the team and this level of play.
This is the same for Skal, with different contextual factors, Matthews, and Briscoe. These guys need minutes to learn the ins and outs of playing high level basketball. They will not be able to work through that on the bench.
With that said, I really like Willis and wouldn't mind him getting more run, but he has to hit some 3's.
I agree that he and Skal will be fine (and Matthews, though his big contributions will come in a year or two, I think)
Briscoe has far surpassed my expectations.
I see "high ranked spotty shooter type guard who gets most of his points by driving", and I think of the million kids who were underperformers in college with that exact profile because they couldn't bully anymore, and their skill set never had to develop beyond a certain point in the past.
So I thought he'd likely be one of those guys who Cal finally gets to come around in March, but very spotty until then.
He's been our second most reliable player because he decided to make defense his calling card, and his fast breaks feed off of that.
I'm so pleased with Zay.
One thing about Willis that I think is often overlooked is that he is very good at feeding the post with an entry pass.
Most of UK's guards over the past few years (with exception of Ulis) have been very poor at getting UK's big men the ball in a position to score, and in some cases haven't really tried. It's like a lost art.
What game did you watch? Maybe, I was asleep and dreaming, but I saw timid play, hurried shots, poor rebounding, poor defense footwork, poor defense rotation, reaching and slow getting into the offensive sets.
I thought last night was his worst game of the year...
Not sure what game you watched but Willis did not give up 5 baskets on defense last night. I only saw one break down where he gave up an easy one, he did not play enough to give up 5 baskets last night. I am not saying he needs to play more or not but both sides seem to make up stuff for or against the poor guy. I will say he feeds the post better than anybody except Ulis.
He shoots flipping 30%
Some of you need to let go of this mythical shooting touch you seem to think Willis possesses
The argument about his defense falls on deaf ears..nobody is playing defense right now so pick sometging else to pick at him about. I am nor a Willis horn trumpeter rather i know the game. The kid has plusses especially offensively. Good instincts has nose for the ball, can run the floor decent passer and scores enough to be effective. Lay off him on defense or pile on the rest of the team cuz no defense is being played
Not sure what post you read, but I never specifically said last night's game. I'm speaking in general. Fact of the matter is, he is a liability on defense and that's why he doesn't get more burn.
I could argue that James Young was the same way defensively, yet he was in the game all the time. Probably because he had aspirations of being one and done. James Young was absolutely putrid at everything except offense. And often times he struggled with that. Yet he was in the game.
Yes, you most certainly could, but you fail to realize there was no one on the bench to replace Young and do a better job. Unfortunately for Willis, both Lee and Poy play his position and are much better defenders.
Not to mention, Willis doesn't even begin to give the team what Young gave that team offensively and in rebounding. You're basically comparing apples to footballs.
I'm not so sure there. I don't think that Willis would be too far behind in rebounding, and with more minutes I think he could compare pretty favorably on offense. What you might want to check is turnovers. Young was terrible with ball security, and arguably the worst player I've ever seen at making a post-entry pass. Would you rather have a couple of more rebounds with a couple of more turnovers (Young) or a couple of less rebounds with less turnovers (Willis)? I get it though, you're one of those fans that sees an awesome dunk and thinks that player is awesome. You probably thought Archie Goodwin was unreal.
Ulis you say you know the game then in the same breath describe Willis as a player he just isn't. First how can you say his def woes should fall on deaf ears? His defense is a lot worse then the guys who play in front of him. so if they are playing bad but keeping us in the game , why would you bring another guy who will give up more? Willis just last night tried to guard a forward he had 5 inches on and got played for a and one. he then played a guard who he had 9 inches on who took him to the rack and did a step back jumper on him. this was all in his minimum time on the floor.
2nd good instincts for the ball? what has he done to show he has good instincts for the ball? the perfect description of a player with good instincts for the ball would be MKG,Mathews or even Poy who you see scrapping and getting a hand on the ball causing scrambles or jump balls. Poy and Mathews had I think 4 held balls between them last night, multiple times close to getting rebounds off pure hustle and showing a instinct for getting to the ball. Willis never shows that.
3rd yes he can run the floor. but all our kids can run the floor. a decent passer I'll give you that, but shouldn't he be decent at passing anyway. and as far as the scoring goes he has missed a lot more then he has made.
my biggest issue with Willis is his mentality and toughness. the kid is 6"10 with a crazy wing span. if he just got aggressive and was not afraid of contact he would then become a huge asset to this team. instead he has soft hands and wants to stand 25 feet from the basket and shoot. at his size we need him to be a big.
I was real optimistic when I seen him flying to the hole in a few games this year throwing it down. if he would be that aggressive he would see the floor. when he has played aggressively Cal has kept him on the floor. Cal even said Willis makes a lot of mistakes, but when he is out their flying around being aggressive he contributed so he kept him on the floor. you gotta stop building this kid up and painting a picture of Cal making a mistake not giving him clock. that's just not the case.
James Young? You are gonna have to troll harder then that. He was drafted 17th and he is leaps better then Willis on offense.
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