what has he ever done to get a gig like UK? Sheesh.My choice is Frank Vogel
what has he ever done to get a gig like UK? Sheesh.My choice is Frank Vogel
Elaborate some. Tell us why Cal is better
We already have Rand Paul and Matt JonesI can’t believe people would want a Dukie, Let’s have better standards!
2nd round sounds good to me been a while since we been.He's never been out of the 2nd rd of the tournament. That's in 11 years of coaching. I get UCONN is the top ranked team at the moment, but Hurley's resume is atrocious so far.
what has he ever done to get a gig like UK? Sheesh.
Thanks for the Sheesh!what has he ever done to get a gig like UK? Sheesh.
He won an nba title.what has he ever done to get a gig like UK? Sheesh.
l really like your thought process on this. And I like the idea of Pitino for the reasons you gave. Most people probably wouldn't though. It could turn out surprisingly well. I mean Pitino would have the desire to win, if only to show up Cal. As long as we win, I don't care. Except things must be done right...no rules violations, etc.I’ve mentioned this and I doubt it’s on Mitch’s radar but Nash would be my wild card/high risk-high reward call if Stevens, Drew, Muss, Lloyd, Oats all say no.
He’s a HOFer so he’d get instant respect in any players house the second he walked in. Household name. And when you call you let him know the position is his if he’s be willing to run the “7 sec or less” Suns offensive system that he was the PG for in the early 2000s. (DAntoni system)
You could do a lot worse than Steve Nash on your sidelines especially if you were about to have to hire a retread old coach or a relatively non splash hire.
The other option is to call Pitino, tell him you’re only offering 1-2m a year, 5year max with a buyout option at 3) but what you can offer is worth more than money…a chance to go out on top, rewrite his ending…his come full circle redemption story…and retire in 5 years having redeemed his Kentucky legacy…Camelot. Basically you’d be offering him redemption and getting a good ROI financially to help eat Cals contract. And RP would drool at the thought of coming in and succeeding as an FU to Cal
Oats makes 3.4 million so I don't think you need to pay anywhere near $70million to find a capable replacement. Here's the deal...if you think this year's pressure is hot, what will it be next season with 4 of these 5 recruits "expecting" to only be here a few months getting paid handsomely and moving on. If OT and Wallace decide to come back that means you have 3 guys 6'3< expecting to start. CCC has created a monster that's eating him.Who are we going to hire that would be worth paying that amount and that we could realistically afford to hire? A $48 million buyout plus another $15 - 20 million minimum for a contract for a good new coach is putting us near $70 million.
Realistically, who is worth that now that would be able to get the results we want?
I hear the names like Oats, Musselman and Lloyd, but none of them have won anything. 2 of those 3 have never been past the sw16, and I highly doubt Lloyd is leaving AZ.
Beard was a name that had some traction, but aside from maybe MMA coaching, he is obviously not getting hired anywhere anytime soon.
Some people seem keen on Scott Drew, but I don’t realistically see him leaving Baylor and he hasn't exactly been top notch either. Looking over his resume, outside of 2020, he hasn't been past the SW16 one other time since 2012. The only other time was in 2009. Going past the Sw16 3 times in 20 years isn't going to do it for most UK fans.
Occasionally you hear someone toss out Pitino's name, but I highly doubt that would ever legitimately be considered by the administration. Not to mention he isn't close to the coach he was in the 80's and 90's.
My thought isn't so much on keeping Cal as it is finding someone we can look at their resume and justify paying nearly $70 mil to make it happen. Because paying that and not getting any better results or potentially worse would be crippling to the program. Far more so than now.
I like how you think @EliteBlue !I’ve mentioned this and I doubt it’s on Mitch’s radar but Nash would be my wild card/high risk-high reward call if Stevens, Drew, Muss, Lloyd, Oats all say no.
He’s a HOFer so he’d get instant respect in any players house the second he walked in. Household name. And when you call you let him know the position is his if he’s be willing to run the “7 sec or less” Suns offensive system that he was the PG for in the early 2000s. (DAntoni system)
You could do a lot worse than Steve Nash on your sidelines especially if you were about to have to hire a retread old coach or a relatively non splash hire.
The other option is to call Pitino, tell him you’re only offering 1-2m a year, 5year max with a buyout option at 3) but what you can offer is worth more than money…a chance to go out on top, rewrite his ending…his come full circle redemption story…and retire in 5 years having redeemed his Kentucky legacy…Camelot. Basically you’d be offering him redemption and getting a good ROI financially to help eat Cals contract. And RP would drool at the thought of coming in and succeeding as an FU to Cal
Did people from the looney bin take over the University of Texas athletic administration?He goes to Texas for 11 million there’s no buyout
It's cardsstink and however many other million names he has.You are going to shoot down every single candidate, so I don't see the point. Someone has to have a title to be worth it? How many titles did Pitino, Tubby, or Cal have when they got here?
"They haven't won anything" is a weak argument
You’re confusing him with his brother. Dan ain’t a Dukie.I can’t believe people would want a Dukie, Let’s have better standards!
MJ would be a great choice! We could have drag queen shows for the team after every game.We already have Rand Paul and Matt Jones
Vogel is a UK grad that has coached as an assistant and head coach in the NBA for over 20 years, won an NBA championship, coached 2 NBA all star teams, is the Indiana Pacers all time leader in wins as a coach. Some guys that he has coaches in his career: Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson, Chris Webber, Paul George, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook, etc. He would be an excellent coach for our program, IMO.what has he ever done to get a gig like UK? Sheesh.
You people are delusIonal if you think they are going to get rid of cal no matter if UK loses its next 10 games. UK is to money crazy to pay anything. And with a great recruiting class coming in it makes no sense. Grow up and wake up. If you are looking for real blame I say it’s NIL. Does anyone think NIL doesn’t motivate your opponent.Who are we going to hire that would be worth paying that amount and that we could realistically afford to hire? A $48 million buyout plus another $15 - 20 million minimum for a contract for a good new coach is putting us near $70 million.
Realistically, who is worth that now that would be able to get the results we want?
I hear the names like Oats, Musselman and Lloyd, but none of them have won anything. 2 of those 3 have never been past the sw16, and I highly doubt Lloyd is leaving AZ.
Beard was a name that had some traction, but aside from maybe MMA coaching, he is obviously not getting hired anywhere anytime soon.
Some people seem keen on Scott Drew, but I don’t realistically see him leaving Baylor and he hasn't exactly been top notch either. Looking over his resume, outside of 2020, he hasn't been past the SW16 one other time since 2012. The only other time was in 2009. Going past the Sw16 3 times in 20 years isn't going to do it for most UK fans.
Occasionally you hear someone toss out Pitino's name, but I highly doubt that would ever legitimately be considered by the administration. Not to mention he isn't close to the coach he was in the 80's and 90's.
My thought isn't so much on keeping Cal as it is finding someone we can look at their resume and justify paying nearly $70 mil to make it happen. Because paying that and not getting any better results or potentially worse would be crippling to the program. Far more so than now.
Pitino at 100 is a better coach with less than who a lot mentioned as Cals replacement.pitino is 70 and down 14 to Quinipiac at the present. Pass.
Huh?Pitino at 100 is a better coach with less than who a lot mentioned as Cals replacement.
Yes they are and 11 million is nothing considering they would probably take next years UK recruiting class with himDid people from the looney bin take over the University of Texas athletic administration?
Also known as an X and O guy and a teacher of fundamentals whose record exceeded the talent level of the teams he coached in the NBA, sans the Lakers. Vogel was on the JV team that Pitino started to get Nazr in shape and turn him into a basketball player. Was also a manager for the varsity team. Has been around the program, albeit 25 years ago, so he has seen the pressure placed upon the head coach. If I was doing the interview for the next coach, one of my questions would be how would he deal with the pressure that will be placed upon him 365 days a year. I am not saying Vogel should be the next coach, but I think he should get a call to gauge his interest.Vogel is a UK grad that has coached as an assistant and head coach in the NBA for over 20 years, won an NBA championship, coached 2 NBA all star teams, is the Indiana Pacers all time leader in wins as a coach. Some guys that he has coaches in his career: Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson, Chris Webber, Paul George, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook, etc. He would be an excellent coach for our program, IMO.
Unfortunately, you are probably correct. But the #1 recruiting class, which is very subjective, does not ensure a championship or even a successful season. Cal has had (6) #1 classes and the rest were top 5 and we have 1 Championship and another loss in the Championship game in his 13+ years on the job. We may not have any of this year's players back next season, so COW will have to go into the portal again. This would truly be a "new" team! Don't think this guy can win again because he cannot build a team which requires not only recruiting talent but also coaching them.You people are delusIonal if you think they are going to get rid of cal no matter if UK loses its next 10 games. UK is to money crazy to pay anything. And with a great recruiting class coming in it makes no sense. Grow up and wake up. If you are looking for real blame I say it’s NIL. Does anyone think NIL doesn’t motivate your opponent.
Your right but I’m sure his brother Bobby would be around and just gives me Duke vibes but anyway I think there are better optionsYou’re confusing him with his brother. Dan ain’t a Dukie.
Bobby coaches too. Why would he be around?Your right but I’m sure his brother Bobby would be around and just gives me Duke vibes but anyway I think there are better options
Idk, they are brothers, if you like him it’s ok, I’ve been a fan since early 80’s. When I think of the Hurley name, I automatically think of Bobby Hurley and Christian Laetner. Maybe I need counseling 😂 anyway personally I would rather go a different route.Bobby coaches too. Why would he be around?
Respectfully Muss isn’t leaving…his family is happy, he’s recruiting, winning, has a great boss, and we will pay whatever needs to be paid to keep him. That JB Hunt trucking money is long, and that’s their pet NIL project (Keeping Muss funded/happy). No disrespect intended…I think Musselman takes the job.
Pearl used to want it, maybe still does.
Drew and Lloyd would at least take the phone call.
I’m not 100% sold on Oats, but I’ll take my chances. And I bet he takes the job.
I'm not a big fan of Bobby either. I just think Dan with his pedigree would kill it here.Idk, they are brothers, if you like him it’s ok, I’ve been a fan since early 80’s. When I think of the Hurley name, I automatically think of Bobby Hurley and Christian Laetner. Maybe I need counseling 😂 anyway personally I would rather go a different route.
Cal doesn't deserve a nickel ... nothing. Find a way to force him out for breach, non-performance, cause. He stopped putting UK first after he was inducted into the HOF. Just quit on UK and made it about NBA showcase, first and only, at a wholesale level. This to make himself out to be something that he's not. SAT Narcissist.Who are we going to hire that would be worth paying that amount and that we could realistically afford to hire? A $48 million buyout plus another $15 - 20 million minimum for a contract for a good new coach is putting us near $70 million.
Realistically, who is worth that now that would be able to get the results we want?
I hear the names like Oats, Musselman and Lloyd, but none of them have won anything. 2 of those 3 have never been past the sw16, and I highly doubt Lloyd is leaving AZ.
Beard was a name that had some traction, but aside from maybe MMA coaching, he is obviously not getting hired anywhere anytime soon.
Some people seem keen on Scott Drew, but I don’t realistically see him leaving Baylor and he hasn't exactly been top notch either. Looking over his resume, outside of 2020, he hasn't been past the SW16 one other time since 2012. The only other time was in 2009. Going past the Sw16 3 times in 20 years isn't going to do it for most UK fans.
Occasionally you hear someone toss out Pitino's name, but I highly doubt that would ever legitimately be considered by the administration. Not to mention he isn't close to the coach he was in the 80's and 90's.
My thought isn't so much on keeping Cal as it is finding someone we can look at their resume and justify paying nearly $70 mil to make it happen. Because paying that and not getting any better results or potentially worse would be crippling to the program. Far more so than now.