RPI has UK at #11..so what I want to know is...

[The_Answer1313]

I don't even think the losses are that bad. We aren't talking 201+ RPI losses, we are talking 101-200 grouping.

We have two. For comparison sake, Duke has one, UNC has one, Miami (FL) has three, UVA has one, Oregon has one, Kansas has one.
Maryland doesn't have any but they also lost to a 201+ team.

I think it's on the other side.......we are 4-2 vs RPI top 50 teams. That's not bad but MD has 6, Utah has 7, UVA has 7, Miami has 7, Oregon 8. Oklahoma 8, Xavier 7 and Kansas 10.

Basically we are being penalized I believe because we don't play enough top 50 RPI teams. I don't think it's fair but it is what it is.

 

[Aike]

I don't even think the losses are that bad. We aren't talking 201+ RPI losses, we are talking 101-200 grouping.

We have two. For comparison sake, Duke has one, UNC has one, Miami (FL) has three, UVA has one, Oregon has one, Kansas has one.
Maryland doesn't have any but they also lost to a 201+ team.

I think it's on the other side.......we are 4-2 vs RPI top 50 teams. That's not bad but MD has 6, Utah has 7, UVA has 7, Miami has 7, Oregon 8. Oklahoma 8, Xavier 7 and Kansas 10.

Basically we are being penalized I believe because we don't play enough top 50 RPI teams. I don't think it's fair but it is what it is.

We are 6-2 vs. top 50 RPI.

 

[Aike]

Don't worry about it right now.

How bout those of us who want to discuss it, discuss it?

Besides, I believe all of this noise matters some. The selection committee doesn't live in a bubble.

The constant drumbeat of us as a 4 or a team who should be penalized for bad losses has to seep in at least on some level.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

How bout those of us who want to discuss it, discuss it?

Besides, I believe all of this noise matters some. The selection committee doesn't live in a bubble.

The constant drumbeat of us as a 4 or a team who should be penalized for bad losses has to seep in at least on some level.

Oh, I agree. Was just trying to be light-hearted.

 

[The_Answer1313]

We are 6-2 vs. top 50 RPI.

Hmm weird. I was looking on Warren Nolan site. Maybe it's not updated. Alabama is #52 in it so maybe they sneaked up

All which shows how ridiculous it is to put wins into bins in the first place

Daily RPI says Bama #52 and Vandy #54 as well.

It's possible they dropped from the top 50.

Not that it should really matter if Alabama was 48th in the RPI or 52nd but I somehow think it does in the committee's eyes.

 

[Aike]

Hmm weird. I was looking on Warren Nolan site. Maybe it's not updated. Alabama is #52 in it so maybe they sneaked up

All which shows how ridiculous it is to put wins into bins in the first place

Daily RPI says Bama #52 and Vandy #54 as well.

It's possible they dropped from the top 50.

Not that it should really matter if Alabama was 48th in the RPI or 52nd but I somehow think it does in the committee's eyes.

I was looking at ESPN, which might not have updated.

Depending on how Bama and Vandy finish, we could have between 4 and 9 top 50 wins going into the SEC tourney.

But if you expand that to 55 or 60, it could make a difference. It shouldn't.

 

[pikespeak1]

Good question. The RPI is a quasi-measure primarily of schedule strength, although it partly is based on a team's win percentage, so it's kind of a hybrid which reflects both a team's win % and more heavily the win% of their opponents (and their opponent's opponents).

Realistically, it's not really a good measure of anything specifically. In fact it's kind of confounding that an organization meant to represent institutes of higher learning decides to adopt the usage of such a poor model.

I wrote a webpage a long time ago which goes into detail about the RPI, its flaws and also how and why it's been misused over the years. (There are also links to a few times when I actually looked statistically at how the RPI and other measures correlate with actual tournament seedings.)

Link to RPI page

The formula has changed slightly since then, and the NCAA has actually doubled-down in some ways by now using the RPI more extensively in their 'nitty-gritty- reports but at the end of the day it's still a pretty poor and often misused model which receives much more recognition than it actually deserves.

Thank you.

 

[jeffygray]

Don't worry about it right now.[/QUO
JUST PLAY BALL!!!!! and it will take care of its self!

 

[jeffygray]

sorry didn`t mean to infringe on your post.

 

[Bkocats]

we'll be alright
it wouldn't surprise me, if we do win out and win the SECT that we're still no higher than a 4 seed. We did ok the last time that happened.

can you tell I have no faith in them being completely fair and unbiased?