Rodriquez

[BigBlueFanGA]

This is all I will post. Involves not following protocol with NIL. That is what was posted on another teams site, falls in line with all the speculation going on here.

That's probably correct and hence the comment from Jones that the penalty is ridiculous. That would also explain why it's festered all summer because I have no doubt there have been some loud meetings. That is why I insist it become public. If that is accurate this action is absolutely unnecessary for UK to do. It harms our already bad NIL position and lends a hand to negative recruiting .....look what they did to a star over nothing..... Again, if that is accurate, and I suspect it is, if I were Stoops I'd tell them to fix it or start looking for my replacement.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

That's probably correct and hence the comment from Jones that the penalty is ridiculous. That would also explain why it's festered all summer because I have no doubt there have been some loud meetings. That is why I insist it become public. If that is accurate this action is absolutely unnecessary for UK to do. It harms our already bad NIL position and lends a hand to negative recruiting .....look what they did to a star over nothing..... Again, if that is accurate, and I suspect it is, if I were Stoops I'd tell them to fix it or start looking for my replacement.

I don't know how accurate or inaccurate it is and why I was reluctant to put it here.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I don't know how accurate or inaccurate it is and why I was reluctant to put it here.

That same idea has been tossed around. It almost has to be NIL related. Thanks for posting what you saw, it shouldn't cause any issues with the board.

 

[gobigbluebell]

This is all I will post. Involves not following protocol with NIL. That is what was posted on another teams site, falls in line with all the speculation going on here.

Go figure. Even opposing fans are sworn to secrecy.

 

[gobigbluebell]

Well, I hadn't thought of that, and you guys make very good points.

If we punish our players for making money in ways that other schools allow their players to, it would be very bad publicity.

On the flip side, everyone "in the know" knows what it is, players know what it is, recruits will know what it is.

Someone/fans/media need to put serious pressure on Mitch Barnhart. That guy is going to mess around and make it much easier for Stoops to leave here. That's why I think this stuff needs to be made public - BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WOULD FIGHT FOR CHRIS RODRIGUEZ. The media would fight for Chris. Maybe it would make our University look not so great, but hey that's reality. They need to support this program and our guys.

 

[mebeblue2]

Granted but the reporters around the program do know, they've just been asked to keep it quiet. If they do know and they say it isn't x then I think we can safely assume it isn't x.

that is a key word

 

[jauk11]

Most certainly won’t. I think he would have beat it by a couple hundred yards but no say now. Such chicken shit BS. Do you think Bryce Young would sit this long? Lols. For that matter, would Levis? CROd is so so crucial to this year. He came back when he didn’t have to, one of my all time favorites. Punish the kid but don’t jeopardize his career bc of a mistake. One incident in almost 5 years of college should make him a damn Saint in my book.

And no, I’m not condoning a DUI. A drunk driver killed my grandmother when my mama was 14 years old and that about broke her but she would be the first to forgive and not cast a stone.

To another point, Mitch and his friends, although I appreciate their financial support(I guess? Their donated money is probably going to the boxes they are sitting in) but these hypocritical ass holes are too rich to get a DUI. They drive around in UK provided transportation while they sip on bottles they walked out of “The Kroge”. Jesus, if I ever hear someone call it the damn “Kroge”.

End of rant……. For now.

Please continue, lol.

 

[jauk11]

So, you want to be Tennessee. Don't punish our player if it means he can't play against our rival. I like being the better more moral team. If you don't, so be it. Why are we afraid of a bad Florida team? Because they are Florida? That is a weak, defeatist attitude, and you are one of the people on here always bitching that we have to have a more punch you in the face attitude. We have a great running back room. If we lose to Florida, it will not be because CRod is out. And, I like my team taking care of business internally and not turning into ThugU that most of you criticize, but want if it wins games.

We want to be on an equal footing with the other SEC teams, but not like some of the schools..

 

[jauk11]

This is all I will post. Involves not following protocol with NIL. That is what was posted on another teams site, falls in line with all the speculation going on here.

Sounds like UK.

 

[gobigbluebell]

What I've gathered just from this board is it could possibly maybe be related to something like no show jobs. Ie: he was getting NIL money for doing nothing....


...which, well, ain't that basically what NIL is all about???? It's just a bs loophole that finally allows players to be paid for playing football (even though many of them were being paid to begin with). It's not based on your job performance or hours worked.

We gotta stupid AD who is hellbent against paying players period, and someone needs to hammer that point home. Someone in the media, someone close to the program needs to raise the flag for Stoops and go to war for him like he does for his kids, his program.

We also gotta basketball head coach who used to be sort of hip and hellbent on the idea that players should be paid, and he could be using his platform to advocate for our football program/stoops/CRod....but instead that egotistical prick who hasn't been to a final 4 in ages is publicly humiliating our football program.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Go figure. Even opposing fans are sworn to secrecy.

If I knew what I read was 100% accurate I would have no problem posting it. But I don't want to post something that turns out to be false in an open forum.

 

[ganner918]

Well, I hadn't thought of that, and you guys make very good points.

If we punish our players for making money in ways that other schools allow their players to, it would be very bad publicity.

On the flip side, everyone "in the know" knows what it is, players know what it is, recruits will know what it is.

Someone/fans/media need to put serious pressure on Mitch Barnhart. That guy is going to mess around and make it much easier for Stoops to leave here. That's why I think this stuff needs to be made public - BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WOULD FIGHT FOR CHRIS RODRIGUEZ. The media would fight for Chris. Maybe it would make our University look not so great, but hey that's reality. They need to support this program and our guys.

If Mitch runs Stoops off, we need to run Mitch off. Off campus, out of the damn state.

 

[jauk11]

If I knew what I read was 100% accurate I would have no problem posting it. But I don't want to post something that turns out to be false in an open forum.

What? You weren't there? Get out of here.

LOL

 

[southindycat]

I doubt anyone really knows how the penalty allocates between offenses. I'll say this about failing to follow NIL protocol... if the rule exists, it is to protect the program. If he chose to blow it off... well maybe he's an unfortunate example for his teammates, but if NIL money is involved, it was gonna be a painful situation. You weren't gonna have a scout team hero breaking protocol.

Can't have the tail wagging the dog. Sorry.

 

[Dddjdd]

Thanks for passing along Grumpy.

Did some digging on Discord. This is also a rumor but I don’t mind sharing because it’s BS Jones and Rowland keep alluding to whatever it is but not telling us. *Rumor* is UK athletes have been able to make money driving patients for the hospitals, which is totally fine I think. The story continues though that football players have been faking timesheets to get paid for work they didn’t do, pretty shitty behavior imo if it’s true. Supposedly management figured out that some of CRod’s time “worked” was impossible due to football scheduling and have brought this up to the university. Someone else adds that athletes from all sports have done this for years. Another said CRod didn’t fake any of the forms personally but some players were doing it for other players, including CRod. Take it all for what it’s worth - an internet rumor.

However, the last detail about other players doing this for him fits with what Jones has said about CRod being caught holding the bag on this issue.

 

[SosaUK87]

Please continue, lol.

Lol. I’m sure I got more for ya. Lol.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Thanks for passing along Grumpy.

Did some digging on Discord. This is also a rumor but I don’t mind sharing because it’s BS Jones and Rowland keep alluding to whatever it is but not telling us. *Rumor* is UK athletes have been able to make money driving patients for the hospitals, which is totally fine I think. The story continues though that football players have been faking timesheets to get paid for work they didn’t do, pretty shitty behavior imo if it’s true. Supposedly management figured out that some of CRod’s time “worked” was impossible due to football scheduling and have brought this up to the university. Someone else adds that athletes from all sports have done this for years. Another said CRod didn’t fake any of the forms personally but some players were doing it for other players, including CRod. Take it all for what it’s worth - an internet rumor.

However, the last detail about other players doing this for him fits with what Jones has said about CRod being caught holding the bag on this issue.

Not sure that doesn't fall under illegal. I had an uncle who spent time in Atlanta Federal because he was billing insurance companies for taking 4 patients 3 times a week for dialysis, which was fine, except he was taking them 4 at a time in his town car and billing for individual ambulance trips, was called insurance fraud.

 

[gobigbluebell]

Thanks for passing along Grumpy.

Did some digging on Discord. This is also a rumor but I don’t mind sharing because it’s BS Jones and Rowland keep alluding to whatever it is but not telling us. *Rumor* is UK athletes have been able to make money driving patients for the hospitals, which is totally fine I think. The story continues though that football players have been faking timesheets to get paid for work they didn’t do, pretty shitty behavior imo if it’s true. Supposedly management figured out that some of CRod’s time “worked” was impossible due to football scheduling and have brought this up to the university. Someone else adds that athletes from all sports have done this for years. Another said CRod didn’t fake any of the forms personally but some players were doing it for other players, including CRod. Take it all for what it’s worth - an internet rumor.

However, the last detail about other players doing this for him fits with what Jones has said about CRod being caught holding the bag on this issue.

I hope people lost their jobs over that. UK hospital snitching on UK Football.

NIL is a loophole, and our stupid university is to dumb to utilize it.

 

[Dddjdd]

Not sure that doesn't fall under illegal. I had an uncle who spent time in Atlanta Federal because he was billing insurance companies for taking 4 patients 3 times a week for dialysis, which was fine, except he was taking them 4 at a time in his town car and billing for individual ambulance trips, was called insurance fraud.

Yes I hope it’s just some service the hospital offers to some patients rather than a program the hospital would perform and then bill insurance for. Because you’re right if the hospital was turning around and billing a payer for that it could be illegal. That said maybe that’s what they’ve been digging into for so long? Like they had to see how bad it is first. I don’t know just throwing it out as a possibility

 

[CatPatrick13]

What I've gathered just from this board is it could possibly maybe be related to something like no show jobs. Ie: he was getting NIL money for doing nothing....


What I've gathered just from this board is it could possibly maybe be related to something like no show jobs. Ie:

This

 

[CatPatrick13]

Thanks for passing along Grumpy.

Did some digging on Discord. This is also a rumor but I don’t mind sharing because it’s BS Jones and Rowland keep alluding to whatever it is but not telling us. *Rumor* is UK athletes have been able to make money driving patients for the hospitals, which is totally fine I think. The story continues though that football players have been faking timesheets to get paid for work they didn’t do, pretty shitty behavior imo if it’s true. Supposedly management figured out that some of CRod’s time “worked” was impossible due to football scheduling and have brought this up to the university. Someone else adds that athletes from all sports have done this for years. Another said CRod didn’t fake any of the forms personally but some players were doing it for other players, including CRod. Take it all for what it’s worth - an internet rumor.

However, the last detail about other players doing this for him fits with what Jones has said about CRod being caught holding the bag on this issue.

This is as close as it gets ,An employment issue. Period. It’s over. If the penalty is 3 games so be it. There are reasons why the administration needed to be involved but again… it kinda had to be done.

 

[jauk11]

What I've gathered just from this board is it could possibly maybe be related to something like no show jobs. Ie: he was getting NIL money for doing nothing....


...which, well, ain't that basically what NIL is all about???? It's just a bs loophole that finally allows players to be paid for playing football (even though many of them were being paid to begin with). It's not based on your job performance or hours worked.

We gotta stupid AD who is hellbent against paying players period, and someone needs to hammer that point home. Someone in the media, someone close to the program needs to raise the flag for Stoops and go to war for him like he does for his kids, his program.

We also gotta basketball head coach who used to be sort of hip and hellbent on the idea that players should be paid, and he could be using his platform to advocate for our football program/stoops/CRod....but instead that egotistical prick who hasn't been to a final 4 in ages is publicly humiliating our football program.

Ages? Exaggerate much?

 

[jauk11]

Not sure that doesn't fall under illegal. I had an uncle who spent time in Atlanta Federal because he was billing insurance companies for taking 4 patients 3 times a week for dialysis, which was fine, except he was taking them 4 at a time in his town car and billing for individual ambulance trips, was called insurance fraud.

How was he close to smart enough to be able to be in a position to do that? Did he lie about being a doctor also?

 

[TBCat]

This is all I will post. Involves not following protocol with NIL. That is what was posted on another teams site, falls in line with all the speculation going on here.

Other people have speculated the same thing, so this is probably accurate. We do know it centers around the DUI but not how. The speculation I've heard is it centers around the car he was driving.

 

[Bereacat420]

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

How was he close to smart enough to be able to be in a position to do that? Did he lie about being a doctor also?

My uncle was in the ambulance business, the insurance paid for ambulance trips 3 times a week, he has 4 patients he took at one time, and returned home at one time, and was billing for 4 round trip in individual ambulances 3 times a week. Didn't deal with doctors at all. Was defrauding medicare.

 

[Girthang]

Kinda like a few years ago one of our players had a gun he was kicked off the team. Saban had a player in a car with weed and a stolen gun. Dude didn’t get suspended and never missed a game. Saban said he didn’t want to ruin the player. We kinda go overboard to look clean. Like this NIL we are being clean while others are getting the players!!

Agreed on all but the NIL. That will sort itself out.

I don't care to know what he did. None of my frkn business. Don't want to hear any more knob heads running their mouth that they "know, but can't say" either. Just stfu then. Stop speculating. Stop bringing it up.

It's an internal matter unless he's illegally/ physically hurt someone or their property. Let's move the $@#! ON already.

Next.man.up.

 

[SaguaroCat]

This thread is being created again?

This has all been done before.
All 23 different reasons he's being suspended have been documented.
All carefully curated from reputable points on the internet.
All posted from people who know people who are friends with people inside the program.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/bad-c-rod-news-potentially.369934/page-14

 

[jauk11]

My uncle was in the ambulance business, the insurance paid for ambulance trips 3 times a week, he has 4 patients he took at one time, and returned home at one time, and was billing for 4 round trip in individual ambulances 3 times a week. Didn't deal with doctors at all. Was defrauding medicare.

Figures, Doctors don't have to defraud, they rob the sick. Of course almost all patients have insurance now so they don't fight the ridiculous bills. But they don't realize that they do pay it in higher insurance costs, and even company insurance costs you.

A vicious cycle, I went to the emergency room a couple of years ago and TWO emergency room doctors charged $1200 and $2200 dollars and one saw me about three minutes and I don't remember seeing the other, but I have VA insurance and they paid a total of about $500 to both of them. They billed me a few months but the VA said to ignore them and they quit billing me after I told them that was all they had coming.

 

[Dddjdd]

Figures, Doctors don't have to defraud, they rob the sick. Of course almost all patients have insurance now so they don't fight the ridiculous bills. But they don't realize that they do pay it in higher insurance costs, and even company insurance costs you.

A vicious cycle, I went to the emergency room a couple of years ago and TWO emergency room doctors charged $1200 and $2200 dollars and one saw me about three minutes and I don't remember seeing the other, but I have VA insurance and they paid a total of about $500 to both of them. They billed me a few months but the VA said to ignore them and they quit billing me after I told them that was all they had coming.

Yep you’re spot on. A lot of people get mad at insurance companies, and believe me I do too, but when I go to the doctor and receive some outrageous bill like you describe, got to realize that crazy price is coming from the doctor not anybody else

 

[billue]

Do they have to be in a row? if not suspend him on weaker games

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Jmo

UK felt like he had a job paying more than the fair market rate. They felt like the difference in pay should be declared as nil. It wasn't and therefore out of the nonsense compliance because it didn't follow the steps

That's what I posted months ago it's the only thing it can be given the timing. The dui arrest prompted a financial affidavit. That affidavit is what showed the income and triggered the review

It's really the only plausible explanation

Ready for FB season and Mitch should have been fired after he hired Joker. I’ll hang up and listen.

He hired billy g and joker back to back. How many other ads would survive that?

 

[jauk11]

Jmo

UK felt like he had a job paying more than the fair market rate. They felt like the difference in pay should be declared as nil. It wasn't and therefore out of the nonsense compliance because it didn't follow the steps

That's what I posted months ago it's the only thing it can be given the timing. The dui arrest prompted a financial affidavit. That affidavit is what showed the income and triggered the review

It's really the only plausible explanation



He hired billy g and joker back to back. How many other ads would survive that?

Not a fan of our AD. But I am not sure he had a choice with UK having TWO four stars that played a lot against seven of the SEC opponents that averaged 38 four stars (plus five stars) in the previous four classes. That's what no real football improvements in mitch's first ten years as AD will do to a program. Joker never had a chance.

 

[rolaid]

If kid did something wrong punish him - that’s what’s wrong with our country - we got other backs
Jefferson and Wright are super talented as is McClain we are good enough

 

[K_TIME]

If kid did something wrong punish him - that’s what’s wrong with our country - we got other backs
Jefferson and Wright are super talented as is McClain we are good enough

1. DUI…yes he was wrong and he’s being punished. No problem there
2. Not falling in line with Mitch silly ass guidelines to NIL when there are no overarching NIL rules in place (and about every other schools on our schedule abides by none) is not wrong and not worthy of being punished for

Do you really think Oscar Tschweibe did 2M worth or work comparatively (but I don’t hear a peep and Oscar all but said without the money he’d not be a UK second year)? And besides who are we to argue what a person work to a private business really is worth? I make 200k a year while a person makes maybe 25k a year helping my special needs son….I think I’m way overpaid compares to this lady…so who are any to state Crod is wrong to get money in this new NIL world

 

[UKnCincy]

Jmo

UK felt like he had a job paying more than the fair market rate. They felt like the difference in pay should be declared as nil. It wasn't and therefore out of the nonsense compliance because it didn't follow the steps

That's what I posted months ago it's the only thing it can be given the timing. The dui arrest prompted a financial affidavit. That affidavit is what showed the income and triggered the review

It's really the only plausible explanation



He hired billy g and joker back to back. How many other ads would survive that?

That’s not how NIL works and it’s far from the only plausible explanation.

I’d also add that the University doesn’t get involved if it were simply an NIL issue. NIL is handled by the compliance office, which is part of the athletics department.

You also don’t have reporters, coaches and athletes who are completely unwilling to speak publicly about this if it’s merely a NIL compliance issue. That is unless you honestly believe that Barnhart has Tom Jurich-like power over the local media.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Why cant we have nice things?

 

[Girthang]

Yep you’re spot on. A lot of people get mad at insurance companies, and believe me I do too, but when I go to the doctor and receive some outrageous bill like you describe, got to realize that crazy price is coming from the doctor not anybody else

Pricing is set by the industry more than local providers. It has more than doubled because of the insurance companies. They are useless middlemen now mandated for people to be able to afford more expensive procedures. They "negotiate" your bills lower not for you but for their own profits. The market has simply inflated the prices so that they get the same amount of money as before insurance took their cut.

It's a pnzi scheme just like the stock market.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

That’s not how NIL works and it’s far from the only plausible explanation.

I’d also add that the University doesn’t get involved if it were simply an NIL issue. NIL is handled by the compliance office, which is part of the athletics department.

You also don’t have reporters, coaches and athletes who are completely unwilling to speak publicly about this if it’s merely a NIL compliance issue. That is unless you honestly believe that Barnhart has Tom Jurich-like power over the local media.

It's exactly how the nil process works at UK. Student athletes require pre-approval of all nil agreements by the office of compliance.

Also turned out apparently that was exactly what was happening. There was payment made for work not being performed. The view apparently was that overly generous arrangement arrangement was because of his status as a student athlete.

Had he actually performed the work in question, it was simply employment and not an nil compliance issue.

 

[SPECT imaging]

Im glad you are. This only reenforces it IMHO.

Curses are for people who believe in such things. After the last 5 years, anyone who thinks something that happened 70 years ago might affect Stoops' program ought to tell us where they last saw bigfoot, or how their last alien abduction went.