I stand corrected. I thought he was a sophomore . Amazing to think he help lead his school to a national championship. Good catch.
RJ Hampton
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Hampton could certainly come in and take 30 minutes, but this poses 3 problems:
1. Does the player himself, even want to come in and take someone's minutes?
2. It's unfair to the players who came back, and when you say "well, too bad for them", you have to think of the business model. The next 15-ish PG to come here might think twice if he has a feeling Cal will just recruit over him.
3. In the event a guy like Hampton has struggles, Cal still has guys he can go to. If Hampton goes to, say, Memphis, he has no one else to realistically take his minutes. Hampton could take Hagan's minutes, but he knows there's a guy right behind him, looking to take his.
I don't think these kids are really concerning themselves with the fact that they are taking minutes from other players. Unless the team has absolutely no PG, then they will always be taking someone's PT away. And I also don't think the elite players worry about being recruited over. They have more than enough confidence in themselves to worry about that.
Still, it seems just having guys ahead of them in the same position, will cause many to look elsewhere. Hampton and Jones is a good example. It seems Hurt won't go anywhere where he isn't the premier 4.
Maybe it's all of the above together, cauging top recruits to pick a school with a clear cut path.
Trying to think of loaded positions that a top10 player still committed to. Not just one guy ahead of them, but several.
Can't see Hampton wanting to come here with Hagans, IQ, Maxey and Baker.. But it would be nice if he did/
Ok, youre speaking from the point that Hagans is back. Yes, if we have Hagans, there's 0 chance we get Hampton. If Hagans leaves though, I think Hampton is ours to lose. He'd choose starting at the 1 and playing with Maxey as his 2 over being the 2 at Duke. F Memphis.
It just "feels" like a Duke situation, where it makes no sense for the kid to go there but he does anyway. Like Zion. Like Bagley.
But I can also see Memphis, because their public comments seem like they might bite on the idea of playing PG for Penny Hardaway, the new Fab Five, etc. and having total control and freedom.
I don’t think there’s any question that a lot of kids look for the clearest path and least competition. And that isn’t a knock on them. There is strategy to being showcased, and it often pays off.
But there are kids like Zion and Jamal Murray who are happy to join rosters already stacked at their position. Murray considered himself a pg, but joined a team that already had 2 pgs, one of whom looked to have the starting position on lock.
Like others have said, though, Hampton doesn’t feel like Kentucky. Might just be recency bias, because we’ve been getting those 8-15ish, blue collar, lunch pail guys instead of the elites.
Not gonna lie though, I would love to have at least one or two more freaks of nature come through here before the one and done rule changes back.
Memphis says "best version of myself " I wonder where Penny came up with that one .
According to the latest report, he WOULD RATHER play with an elite PG and be able to score the ball more...sounds like having Hagans come back would be no problem.
Hagans, Maxey and Hampton could all play 30 minutes a game, with Quickly filling in as well. That's our 4 guard rotation.
Hagans, Maxey and Hampton could all play 30 minutes a game, with Quickly filling in as well. That's our 4 guard rotation.
I think the SF/SG positions lend themselves to more flexibility (and Zion getting paid, that part helps). It appears to get a bit more difficult when you're talking a Center or a PG. These positions are at either end of the size spectrum. A good example was Carey and Stewart. I thought it was crazy that people thought those two would play together, and while I can't prove that's why they didn't.. I'm pretty convinced it's a big reason why.
Yeah, it's been tough getting my hopes up for top talent. Not to mention we've lost out on guys who had CLEAR playing time and touches. I don't think we have a chance at RJ unless Hagans leaves... which, I wouldn't be opposed to.
I do expect our recruiting to pick up. SoS and myself have discussed this for months. Duke's recruiting still hasn't done much since FBI/NCAA. Cal's though, appears to continue going strong, as other schools are getting pegged with investigations.
I need to look at 2020 recruits, and see where we stand.
If that's the case, then he is going to Duke. The only reason to not go to Duke would be to not share the spotlight with Jones. If he is OK with sharing the spotlight, then Duke it is.
Then it gets interesting....
Does Whitney start at the 4 and we go small? Then that changes the rotation for Richards/Sestina/EJ/Brooks.
It could work, and it would be a nice change for us moving to a smaller lineup. 2012 we honestly had a smaller....faster team....especially when at times we didn't have a decent backup forward and moved MKG to the 4.
TBH, it's the same thing we will run into if Herro returns and we have a Hagans/Maxey/Herro back-court.
All this quote means is the "bag" came in and included talking points about wanting to play with another elite PG, to help offset the questions of how Hampton could choose Duke with Tre Jones coming back.
I think he is Duke bound no matter what. Just a couple days ago, he was saying he was watching Jones to see if he was leaving. Now, he is saying he would like to play with an elite PG. Sooooo...to me, it sounds like he was wanting Jones to leave and maybe putting a bit of pressure on K to push him out the door. Now all the sudden, he wants to play with an elite PG. Just sounds like he was Duke bound no matter what.
Good, he can go lose early.
They lost with Zion and RJ. They will not replace that production.
Tailor made for Kansas then. Slides right in beside Dotson, who will be arguably the best point guard in college next year. Go get 'em Bill. Open that checkbook!
Simply going by star rankings can be misleading, if you ask me. I dont think they have lived up to that "5 star" status. I think we need more if we want to contend for a title. We have to get more scoring. Now, they may step up and give us what we need and I do think they will improve but I'd love to add another option myself. Hope Cal starts using all of the scholarships.
Now he wants to play with an Elite PG the day after Tre Jones announces he’s returning. He’s going to Duke guys, accept it now.
I totally agree. But with how much bashing of Ashton Hagans happened on here and on twitter after the Auburn game, I'm surprised to hear someone say it.
I was holding out hope for this kid and figured he would start regardless of who came back (Besides Herro, but then could use 3 guard lineup.) with him at point and Maxey at the 2. When he said he wanted the ball in his hands and had to see who left and mentioned by name Jones I figured we were still in it. Because that is saying if Jones comes back I'm not going to Dook. Now Jones is coming back and he changes his story to I could play with another top PG because Jones came back. I'm out, this kid is going to Dook. He is changing his statements to fit with them. He is just trying to keep some suspense and his name out there.
After Dook crap the bed with Zion and the 1, 2 and 3 player plus Jones that should have done rat boy in. Hampton says in his blog I really like Dook, just look at what they did this year with all those Freshmen. What shit the bed with the most talented team in the country LMFAO! He's a dipshit, Dook bound.
After Dook crap the bed with Zion and the 1, 2 and 3 player plus Jones that should have done rat boy in. Hampton says in his blog I really like Dook, just look at what they did this year with all those Freshmen. What shit the bed with the most talented team in the country LMFAO! He's a dipshit, Dook bound.
Coach K: I just don't think I can bring myself to be a 1AD coach anymore. I'd like to go back to the time honored traditional recruiting approach and if you'd kneel befor..
Oh wait, there's a 1AD left who might want to play here?
Oh wait, there's a 1AD left who might want to play here?
I think he picks Duke.
Tre Jones won't impact his decision in my opinion. No more than Barret's decision was affected by Reddish's.
Tre Jones won't impact his decision in my opinion. No more than Barret's decision was affected by Reddish's.
Nah He explicitly stated he was waiting for PG's decisions. He is a ball handler and Tre Jones will be the main ball handler.
Exactly. He's a lying rat bastard and everyone knows it now. His legacy will end with nothing but OADs. He is washed up and I don't think he really coaches that much anymore. Did Reddish improve while there because it sure seems like he was the forgotten man? I hardly heard his name this year and where it was looking like they would have 1-2-3 in the draft Reddish has slipped. RJ and Zion were always going to be what they were. How he didn't get that team to the FF is the biggest joke of the OAD era.
Because our fans are justifying it to themselves.
During the season, Hagans was better than Jones. Now that Jones is likely staying Jones is the better player, so this allows Hampton to come here.
It's easy to look good when you are throwing the ball up to Zion on a team with RJ and Reddish. I'm not sure he is as good as Teague. We will see what he does with much more regular Fresham and not once in a generation talent.
Hampton is being fed and spitting out all of the Duke cliches and party lines. He's going to Duke. Another check is being written.
Hampton was his long ago. No secret he's been wanting to go there for over a year.
Well Hagans just announced he's coming back, so moot point.
Whitney won’t be playing the 4 at 6’6 and 185. He has no chance guarding guys like Reggie Perry or the Purifiy kid. We need Hurt and one more big.
Unless Montgomery and/or Richards leave, I think we are done with our frontcourt.
Montgomery, Richards, Sestina, and Brooks will be our frontcourt (4-5) rotation.
Hurts a twig for his size. That kid is going to get abused next year against stronger bigs. He is not what we need at all. If we pick up anyone else it needs to be an enforcer, rim protector type.
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