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I don't think the Reds win here making this trade. St. Louis would have to eat a portion of that contract for any team to bite or send along prospects to sweeten the pot. Cincinnati did not want to pay him $12 million in 2022, at 35 in November going to pay him $30 million? Not a chance. The Reds are better off extending a qualifying offer to Nick Martinez. He either accepts it and you have a reliable veteran innings eater for 2025 or get a compensation pick in next year's draft. Still have the money spent on Martinez this past year to go towards acquiring an outfielder that will bring some power to the middle of the order or a pitcher with postseason experience to stabilize the rotation.
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Shows I didn’t know any better myself at the time. Martinez turned out to be a rock for them in the second half.
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Projected arbitration salaries for the Reds in 2025.
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Ty France (5.089): $8.6MM
Tejay Antone (5.000): $1.1MM
Santiago Espinal (4.149): 4MM
Jake Fraley (4.097): $3.3MM
Tyler Stephenson (4.056): $5.2MM
Austin Wynns (4.017): $1.4MM
Ian Gibaut (3.077): $800K
Sam Moll (3.075): $1.1MM
Alexis Diaz (3.000): $4.2MM
Nick Lodolo (3.000): $2.2MM
France - I would non-tender at $8.6 million for no more than the Reds got from him. Spend the money on an outfielder or give the money to a player deserving of an extension.
Antone - I would give him one more shot to prove he can hold it together.
Espinal - Indifferent. The infield will be crowded if everyone makes it out of ST healthy. Espinal did have a great July & August, slumped miserably in the other 4 months. Gives you versatility in the infield and played a few games in the corner outfield spots. Could be much worse to have as one of the last guys off the bench next year if you consider who the Reds have had in this position in recent years with Senzel & Barrero.
Fraley - Bring him back.
Stephenson - Hope they can avoid arbitration and sign him to an extension.
Wynns - non-tender. Would be open to bringing him back on a minor league deal for cheaper. Rather get a quality backup catcher, move on from Maile and re-sign Barnhart on a minor league deal to work with the young pitchers in Louisville.
Gibaut - Bring him back. He needs to get healthy again. Was a workhorse in 2023.
Moll - Bring him back.
Diaz - Bring him back. He got somewhat better as the season went. In his last 30 games, finished with a 2.89 ERA, 11 saves (28 overall), 12 BB and a 1.11 WHIP. You can only hope he finds his All-Star form again. Cincinnati isn't spending for a top-notch closer to replace him. They do need to sign some setup men to pitch in the high-leverage situations. Pagan was not it.
Lodolo - Absolutely bring him back. Not giving up on him with his potential. Injuries are the concern with him though. They have to sign a veteran pitcher and retain Junis at least since Martinez likely priced himself out of Cincinnati with his 2nd half.
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Ty France (5.089): $8.6MM
Tejay Antone (5.000): $1.1MM
Santiago Espinal (4.149): 4MM
Jake Fraley (4.097): $3.3MM
Tyler Stephenson (4.056): $5.2MM
Austin Wynns (4.017): $1.4MM
Ian Gibaut (3.077): $800K
Sam Moll (3.075): $1.1MM
Alexis Diaz (3.000): $4.2MM
Nick Lodolo (3.000): $2.2MM
France - I would non-tender at $8.6 million for no more than the Reds got from him. Spend the money on an outfielder or give the money to a player deserving of an extension.
Antone - I would give him one more shot to prove he can hold it together.
Espinal - Indifferent. The infield will be crowded if everyone makes it out of ST healthy. Espinal did have a great July & August, slumped miserably in the other 4 months. Gives you versatility in the infield and played a few games in the corner outfield spots. Could be much worse to have as one of the last guys off the bench next year if you consider who the Reds have had in this position in recent years with Senzel & Barrero.
Fraley - Bring him back.
Stephenson - Hope they can avoid arbitration and sign him to an extension.
Wynns - non-tender. Would be open to bringing him back on a minor league deal for cheaper. Rather get a quality backup catcher, move on from Maile and re-sign Barnhart on a minor league deal to work with the young pitchers in Louisville.
Gibaut - Bring him back. He needs to get healthy again. Was a workhorse in 2023.
Moll - Bring him back.
Diaz - Bring him back. He got somewhat better as the season went. In his last 30 games, finished with a 2.89 ERA, 11 saves (28 overall), 12 BB and a 1.11 WHIP. You can only hope he finds his All-Star form again. Cincinnati isn't spending for a top-notch closer to replace him. They do need to sign some setup men to pitch in the high-leverage situations. Pagan was not it.
Lodolo - Absolutely bring him back. Not giving up on him with his potential. Injuries are the concern with him though. They have to sign a veteran pitcher and retain Junis at least since Martinez likely priced himself out of Cincinnati with his 2nd half.
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