The changes are hardly radical.
Mmmm.
“Real” students benefitted from the massive ROI pre-NIL, at the “profitable”
I said this is how it would turn out from the start but got repeatedly attack by other posters on this board for saying it. Good idea, horrible implementation.
Of course some were getting some money under the table, so was Red Grange for that matter, most likely, but to compare the current NIL to what it used to be like is like comparing modern warfare to Revolutionary War tactics and weaponry.
This is in the current NIL law for the state of Kentucky (which is an entirely separate separate issue that states have their own NIL laws):
Collective bargaining requires them to be employees and to get paid directly from the schools. That may happen eventually, but there is no one in administration that is pushing for that now. That will require a fundamental dismantling of a very lucrative system, so you have to get all who currently profit to give up their leverage. Good luck!Illegal right now, but I'm not the only one who thinks this is going to happen. College football is second only to the NFL in revenue. There is money to be made everywhere. Pandora's box is open. Collective bargaining is coming and there is nothing the NCAA can do to stop it now.
NCAA Football Nears Pay-for-Play Era, Bruin Capital’s Pyne Says
Bruin Capital founder George Pyne, a former Ivy League offensive lineman and college-football enthusiast, offered a bold prediction for the future: “You’re going to have to pay the players.”www.bloomberg.com
You don't. That era of college sports is dead.
As it should have been.
Lol.
Unfortunately, I disagree on it not lasting. If anything it will get worse! The professional teams better take a much harder look at this and try to fix it. Why? Well, in reality, you have just unleashed 100's of new professional teams! Are you going to be a Bengal's fan - or a Wildcat fan? Before you could be both - but money - yes money - will lead to you becoming a really strong fan of one of the other eventually. When the NCAA collapses on this - which is almost done. TV contracts will change. The Big Time College teams will all be taking in a lot more money from TV. Games will start being played on Sundays - why not? TV will create super match ups on Sundays. Who you gonna watch then? The Wildcats or the Bengals? Now do you see my point!
That's illegal. I really don't know what is so hard to understand. You cannot limit the amount of money these kids can make without making them employees and then also letting them form a union to collectively bargain. Also, you cannot limit NIL to schools because the money isn't for the school, it's for the athletes. I strongly encourage you to forget about the word limit, as it can't happen without unionization.
You're not limiting anything about what the kids can earn...
The problem with your argument is that the schools are not paying the players. They aren’t allowed to. All of the NIL money is coming from private sources and furthermore Every state has different laws. The salary cap works because every team agreed, the players union agreed.
All of the NIL money is documented, yes?
Ok, I'm an idiot, so help me out...
It’s illegal because all of the state laws regarding NIL say it’s illegal.
Yeah that’s been my opinion where it ends up since the day the decision was released. Not just because there would be trying to regulate and don’t know how else to do it, but also when money starts flying around like it is all the vultures out there start circling to get in the way of it…including unions, agents, etc. All that being said I haven’t figured out how being academic institutions factors in to the long term version of all of this because of specific laws relating to them and their funding with the government…the most obvious being title 9
Explanation #1000. Salary caps are illegal without collective bargaining. Collective bargaining is illegal without employment contracts. College athletes are not employees and the schools are steadfastly opposed to that option, therefore salary caps will remain illegal, so why waste your time jousting windmills?
It's a valid point. You essentially have diametrically opposed cultures trying to find a way to fit. Amateurism, a form of classism/indentured servitude, is trying to meld with free market capitalism, but the stakeholders on the school side are trying to maintain the fascist elements of controlling/manipulating the market, while attempting to allow a minimal amount of free market into the athlete compensation side to placate the labor force and those who support them. It's really a comedy of errors that we are watching unfold and I suspect the only way this fixes itself is if college football, as a sport, breaks away from the schools. I would not be surprised if college football morphs into a developmental pro league that is either loosely affiliated with the schools or maybe even not at all.
Ole Miss has blown that theory out of the water, doubt there's a poorer state in the union than Mississippi and they've bought a first class defense.
Looks like my "dream" turned into your nightmare. This was inevitable.
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Not my nightmare. I hope they get their fair share. I just said there can't be a cap without collectively bargaining, which requires employment status. All of what I said is true. This ain't the first rodeo with the NLRB. This is going to be settled by Congress or, if they fail, SCOTUS.Looks like my "dream" turned into your nightmare. This was inevitable.
NLRB Rules Dartmouth Men’s Basketball Players Are Employees
NLRB rules Dartmouth men’s basketball players are considered university employees under U.S. labor law and therefore eligible to unionize.
Can't disagree. Beyond a certain level of income, the player should be paying compensation (pre-tax) into a team player collective, and at some point total team compensation needs to be capped. I'm pretty sure we are all familiar with salary caps? These are primarily salaries, not real NIL contracts, make no mistake. Most of these kids are not economically significant in relation to their deal size. They don't have advertising value matching their take. An individual cap of $75,000 and team cap of same x85 schollies would be something that would largely level the playing field for P4 conferences. $75k annually on top of free room & board and education seems adequate. Certain documented exempt reimbursements might be disregarded... like paying a Lloyd's policy premium?
You are not that naive. Just because it's transparent now. They've did this for years.
