Sheron? You’ve got to be kidding. Have you seen him play? If he’s the QB we MIGHT be lucky to win 2 games
Quarterback 2024, who will it be?
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Nobody has seen him play…including you
But given he’s the backup the logic is it’s his job or portal Qb (which is my vote)
Assuming Pratt even enters the portal, he will be possibly be the No. 1 target in the country.
Yeah, I have no idea what his plans are. Just saying this is somebody I'd like to see UK chase IF he enters the portal. As I said, gut tells me it'd come down to a LSU/Ole Miss battle. Think he's originally from Florida.
Nope didnt' forget the USCjr game...(I was there to witness the full glory of it).
I am not arguing Sheron is a good option for 2024 QB1....just simply stating back up QB today has to be considered for QB1 from a logical standpoint
Sorry, thought you were referring to Arch Manning and I am not even how I managed to confuse that. I probably was thinking about another post when I responded.
If you are lacking in NIL funding, going to be a tough pull. If I were going to pick a place I would pick FSU or Miami. My reasons would be both are desperate, both are overpaying and he is from Florida. This may just be a silly rumor, but FSU has long been short on funds, but now with money to throw at kids, but I read the invented of spandex is a FSU fan and is supplying funding.
I'm not saying Sheron is or will be a great QB (or even a good one). But, it was his first and only real game action to that point. Not to mention the fact that he was playing behind the same terrible offensive line that Levis was and he was being coached by people who were terrified to allow him to run the actual offense. You can literally see the distrust UKs coaches have when the backup gets in the game. It's because they don't prepare the backups to play, ever! Hell, I can't even really say they prepare the starters.
Yenser must be replaced. I was shocked when he survived last year. We still need a QB who can keep defenses honest.
LSU has Nuessmeyer waiting in the wings.
If Arch would transfer and goes to LSU, Nuessmeyer is the target!
Sheron played better against them than Levis did against Vandy, I definitely remember that.
Some you all are delusional. Have any of you hoping Boley is the answer actually seen him play? Sheron and Allen were both better high school QBs than him. Boley may end up being a great QB, but if he's our starter his freshman year then guarantee we're not making a Bowl game.
I totally agree. We are two years in this pro offense with no threat of a QB run game and our offense has been anything but successful against SEC competition.
I would kill for another Lynn Bowden type QB that could complete a 15 yard pass and run the football successfully.
1. UK needs to stick with Coen's plan at UK. If Coen fails...Stoops is basically is cooked and over at UK. You can't reboot the offense for a 6th OC in 12 years.
2. I'd like to see if Stoops can negotiate with Coen to can Yenser and modify the outside zone to a more inside zone/power run game and then allow him to groom QBs in play action, very solid WR route trees, put some QB read option at opportune times into the package, etc... The NFL concepts feel like we've not been great at running the football in 2 years of Coen and 1 year of Scangerello trying this outside zone stuff. Also, Levis in 2021 with some QB run plays was deadly....I'd like to get back to 3-5 QB scripted run plays a game...I know NFL doesn't do that...but in college....it's a weapon.
I think 2024 is hard to call today....there will be portal QBs and UK is a good spot for a backup at bigtme school that can't get on field with Coen. THen you'll have Sheron if he can win the spot. I don't count Bolley at all...he's not a guy that is ready to go from HS to college in 1 year.
2. I'd like to see if Stoops can negotiate with Coen to can Yenser and modify the outside zone to a more inside zone/power run game and then allow him to groom QBs in play action, very solid WR route trees, put some QB read option at opportune times into the package, etc... The NFL concepts feel like we've not been great at running the football in 2 years of Coen and 1 year of Scangerello trying this outside zone stuff. Also, Levis in 2021 with some QB run plays was deadly....I'd like to get back to 3-5 QB scripted run plays a game...I know NFL doesn't do that...but in college....it's a weapon.
I think 2024 is hard to call today....there will be portal QBs and UK is a good spot for a backup at bigtme school that can't get on field with Coen. THen you'll have Sheron if he can win the spot. I don't count Bolley at all...he's not a guy that is ready to go from HS to college in 1 year.
Think about everybody agrees that Boley needs a RS year.
Memphis throws the ball and their offense is more exciting then ours.Just spitballing, this guy looks like a transfer candidate
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Plays at Memphis, has good numbers and increased his % over three years, already in the south and may want to play in a bigger league. Unsure of what system they run there. He will be a senior and does not have a Covid year.
As far as Tulane and Memphis QB....let's be fair. That CUSA/Sunbelt football is an offensive fest where you get 5 seconds to throw, receivers run wide open a good bit, etc... and when you get to SEC....life isn't like that easy. THis is why guys like Scott Frost, Billy Napier, Kevin Sumlin, etc...they tend to fail from that conference when they get to bigger conference jobs like Florida, Nebraska, Texas Am, Va Tech, etc...
I think this is in part why Leary ins't looking so hot...ACC to SEC is a bigger jump for these kind of guys. Sam Hartman from Wake Forest to Notre Dame ain't so hot, etc...
I think this is in part why Leary ins't looking so hot...ACC to SEC is a bigger jump for these kind of guys. Sam Hartman from Wake Forest to Notre Dame ain't so hot, etc...
The most puzzling thing about the Leary situation is how well Mertz is doing at Florida. He wanted to come here and Coen chose Leary over him.
Also, Mertz is just a JR, so he will be back next season for the Gators. Would have taken care of the gap year for Boley if Coen and Stoops would have taken Mertz.
True on Mertz...but he came from BIg10...not ACC. I do wonder if there is a trend of portal QB from offensive conferences that move to SEC and how good they look.
With the expansion of the league, we're gonna need a stud. Whoever that would be.
Coaching staff whiffed on taking Leary over Mertz.
I made this comment after game 1, which was a loss for Florida and a win for us, but it was OBVIOUS that Mertz was the better QB from day 1.
I got blasted by the "CMS Homies" on here for making such an ignorant, ill informed statement.
I stand by what I said in September. Mertz should have been our QB FOR MULTIPLE reasons.
Having 2 years eligibility should have been the determining factor if everything else was equal.
He's will be entering the portal. When someone figures it out, let the staff know.
I agree in hindsight that Mertz is superior to Leary (and having that second year would be a perfect bridge to Bolley). But I was in favor of Leary in the portal shopping season....and he was a consensus above Mertz by just about all others.
I had never seen either of them play. But, in watching their first games, it was obvious that Mertz's mechanics, accuracy, and play recognition was so much better than Leary's, a good high school coach would have recognized the difference.
I just wonder how much the injury really impacted Leary. It is obvious that all Coen had to go on was game film, and Leary's game film from 2021 looked like a first rounder. 35 TD to 3 interceptions.
Mertz's numbers paled in comparison. But he was in a horrible offense for a passing QB at Wisconsin.
Don't recall being a Boley for 2024 advocate anywhere in this thread....but you do you.
Sheron was so impressive last year/spring camp we went and got Leary from the portal. My guess is that's what will happen again this postseason
Fun discussion topic. By now the staff knows if Wade or Sheron are SEC starting level quality. If they aren't (likely) I'm sure staff have already done analysis and some backchannel feeling out if qbs are thinking of portaling.
Given Stoops history, he seems to prefer Power 5 school kids. knowing they were that level recruited out of school & had received P5 level coaching & weight training For a year or 2. For a QB, I'd bet he & Coen prefer guys who have played and started in CFB.
Whatever happens, will occur very fast in early Dec so we will all know soon. Oh, and if we do take 1 portal starter quality qb then Wade & Sheron leave....so for depth we would then need a 2nd portal tfer.
Given Stoops history, he seems to prefer Power 5 school kids. knowing they were that level recruited out of school & had received P5 level coaching & weight training For a year or 2. For a QB, I'd bet he & Coen prefer guys who have played and started in CFB.
Whatever happens, will occur very fast in early Dec so we will all know soon. Oh, and if we do take 1 portal starter quality qb then Wade & Sheron leave....so for depth we would then need a 2nd portal tfer.
This should be our all in target and hopefully get him locked up. We run the real risk of having an extremely bad year next year if we don't get another good portal QB.
After that I think we'll thankfully be fine. We finally have some recruits we can work with.
The staff has to give Sheron and Wade both a shot. I'd even seriously consider giving them reps to finish out the season. Play both of them the final 2 reg season games, give them the bulk of the reps leading up to bowl and let them play in it.
The portal has become essentially CFB's version of OAD. People hold out hope for the exceptions and ignore the rule.
We have to quit investing in short timers that aren't generational talents and error on the side of guys who have been in the locker room, at the very least have some chemistry, knowledge of the play book, have been going up against SEC starting defense in practice, and will be around for 2-3 more years.
We would've won 7-8 games with either of those guys this year and we'll win 7-8 at least with one or both of them next year. It's just how our schedule sets up...
If there's a guy out there who can beat the 3-4 top 10-15ish ranked SEC opponents we'll play next year, then fine get him...
More than likely that type of dude isn't interested in coming here if he's even out there or available at all.
So, if we're going to win 7-8 games next year. Let's win those games with a kid we're going to have for 2-3 years, that way he grows, matures, takes his lumps...who knows maybe 2025 after a season Sheron and/or Wade turn out to be something.
The portal has become essentially CFB's version of OAD. People hold out hope for the exceptions and ignore the rule.
We have to quit investing in short timers that aren't generational talents and error on the side of guys who have been in the locker room, at the very least have some chemistry, knowledge of the play book, have been going up against SEC starting defense in practice, and will be around for 2-3 more years.
We would've won 7-8 games with either of those guys this year and we'll win 7-8 at least with one or both of them next year. It's just how our schedule sets up...
If there's a guy out there who can beat the 3-4 top 10-15ish ranked SEC opponents we'll play next year, then fine get him...
More than likely that type of dude isn't interested in coming here if he's even out there or available at all.
So, if we're going to win 7-8 games next year. Let's win those games with a kid we're going to have for 2-3 years, that way he grows, matures, takes his lumps...who knows maybe 2025 after a season Sheron and/or Wade turn out to be something.
One of them will likely have to QB the bowl game again this year.
No
in no way is the staff obligated to sacrifice all the hard work by the rest of the team by putting out there, at the most important most impactful position, ANYBODY who isn't worthy of it or who hasn't earned it.
Sheron has been through 3 spring practices & 3 fall camps. Wade has done 1 spring & 2 falls. They have started and played 1 CFB game entirely, each. If they are judged to not be starter quality it ain't due to being given a shot.
in no way is the staff obligated to sacrifice all the hard work by the rest of the team by putting out there, at the most important most impactful position, ANYBODY who isn't worthy of it or who hasn't earned it.
Sheron has been through 3 spring practices & 3 fall camps. Wade has done 1 spring & 2 falls. They have started and played 1 CFB game entirely, each. If they are judged to not be starter quality it ain't due to being given a shot.
The offense is a mess this year so a qb (no matter who it is) isn’t going to fix all of that.
The WRs dropped the ball early and while they can make some amazing plays they aren’t consistent enough. The OL has been at best average and still can’t hold blocks for the required time to let all these long developing plays work.
And the TEs have been disappointing both in their blocking and their contributions in receiving. Though it must be said there contributions are held back by the fact that we run so few plays.
The only position group that played up to a good level on O was the RBs. But even there that is mostly entirely Davis as again we didn’t run enough plays to get anyone else decent reps.
The O needs to change from a scheme perspective if we want to move the ceiling on our win count up. And that’s where this needs to start.
The WRs dropped the ball early and while they can make some amazing plays they aren’t consistent enough. The OL has been at best average and still can’t hold blocks for the required time to let all these long developing plays work.
And the TEs have been disappointing both in their blocking and their contributions in receiving. Though it must be said there contributions are held back by the fact that we run so few plays.
The only position group that played up to a good level on O was the RBs. But even there that is mostly entirely Davis as again we didn’t run enough plays to get anyone else decent reps.
The O needs to change from a scheme perspective if we want to move the ceiling on our win count up. And that’s where this needs to start.
Mind you I don't know if Pratt will be available, he's just where I'd like to see UK start. If he is available he'll have multiple suitors.
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