Please god, Iowa. Look at the flowers, Stoops.
Or maybe Florida State?Please god, Iowa. Look at the flowers, Stoops.
They aren't firing Norvell. He just won 13 games.Or maybe Florida State?
Yeah but they are about to have their worst record in history.They aren't firing Norvell. He just won 13 games.
Idk, maybe.Yeah but they are about to have their worst record in history.
Cal has value because he can atleast recruit. Stoops has none. He's a DC playing pretend HC.We have to hope this plays out like it did with Cal. I think the problem is that Cal was actually considered a good coach, and I doubt many Div 1 teams are chomping at the bit to hire Stoops.
I agree Stoops is not getting fired. Which is why I'm hoping a school, like Iowa, scoops him up. He doesn't wanna be here anymore. It's obvious he hates how UK's NIL is sat up. Or maybe he's just done with coaching, due to the new rules. Like UVA's Bennett.Anyone who says fire stoops is wasting their time. I keep saying this, but Mitch wasn’t gonna pay 30 mil to fire Cal who he didn’t even like. You really think he’s gonna pay 45 mil to fire stoops, who he likes?
I can see a world where stoops finds a job that he finds attractive to rebuild a program. I can see a world where he just walks away and continues to draw from his bourbon business. But I can also see a world where he comes back and tries to rebound from a bad year. None of us have any idea. We all just want to see the cats win
But I don’t see a world where Mitch eats that much money to fire the winningest coach in our history.
His brother retired early. I can see him doing the same. We really just don’t know. It’s a sad state of affairs right now.I agree Stoops is not getting fired. Which is why I'm hoping a school, like Iowa, scoops him up. He doesn't wanna be here anymore. It's obvious he hates how UK's NIL is sat up. Or maybe he's just done with coaching, due to the new rules. Like UVA's Bennett.
Anyone who says fire stoops is wasting their time. I keep saying this, but Mitch wasn’t gonna pay 30 mil to fire Cal who he didn’t even like. You really think he’s gonna pay 45 mil to fire stoops, who he likes?
I can see a world where stoops finds a job that he finds attractive to rebuild a program. I can see a world where he just walks away and continues to draw from his bourbon business. But I can also see a world where he comes back and tries to rebound from a bad year. None of us have any idea. We all just want to see the cats win
But I don’t see a world where Mitch eats that much money to fire the winningest coach in our history.
The hope is that an Auburn, Wisconsin, Iowa or Iowa state type program that has washed up football school rep but is struggling worse than we have the last 5-10 years takes him and views it as “getting tk Kentuckys las 10 year average” as step 1. And the. They think bc they are a “football school and UK is a basketball school” that they can propel him to the next level. Not realizing our football fan base and facilities is top 25. Or he takes a pro DC jobCal has value because he can atleast recruit. Stoops has none. He's a DC playing pretend HC.
My thoughts exactly. He needs a big ten style team. Where he can ball control it up there. Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern, etc.The hope is that an Auburn, Wisconsin, Iowa or Iowa state type program that has washed up football school rep but is struggling worse than we have the last 5-10 years takes him and views it as “getting tk Kentuckys las 10 year average” as step 1. And the. They think bc they are a “football school and UK is a basketball school” that they can propel him to the next level. Not realizing our football fan base and facilities is top 25. Or he takes a pro DC job
Oh so we should just sit around and put our hope and faith in Stoops? You just won’t let go, will ya?Anyone who says fire stoops is wasting their time. I keep saying this, but Mitch wasn’t gonna pay 30 mil to fire Cal who he didn’t even like. You really think he’s gonna pay 45 mil to fire stoops, who he likes?
I can see a world where stoops finds a job that he finds attractive to rebuild a program. I can see a world where he just walks away and continues to draw from his bourbon business. But I can also see a world where he comes back and tries to rebound from a bad year. None of us have any idea. We all just want to see the cats win
But I don’t see a world where Mitch eats that much money to fire the winningest coach in our history.
Barnhart’s a CEO who’s only purpose is to bring in revenue, he knows enough about our history and understand that winning seven games a year and going to the Belk Bowl is enough to appease most fans and keep bringing in the money; he’s willing to pay Stoops $9m/year to accomplish that. Some people are going to jump on here and scream about the ten win seasons which I’m not downplaying but overall our record with him is 77-69 overall and 36-55 in the SEC. Now in his 13th season we’ve only won more than seven games three times and the eight win season was without a true QB. It wasn’t that hard to win seven games in the past with our three cupcakes, UL being down, and being in the East with Vandy, SC, and UF having a down spiral. Also having MSt as our common west opponent helped. All of that’s over now that we don’t have divisions, SC and Vandy are seeing an uptick, and UF will eventually get on a roll with their top 10 talent.Why does Barnhart continually put us in these lose-lose positions where we can't get rid of bad coaches? Barnhart is the problem.
Excellent post. Probability of success in the SEC is even less now with expansion. Unfortunately ...Barnhart’s a CEO who’s only purpose is to bring in revenue, he knows enough about our history and understand that winning seven games a year and going to the Belk Bowl is enough to appease most fans and keep bringing in the money; he’s willing to pay Stoops $9m/year to accomplish that. Some people are going to jump on here and scream about the ten win seasons which I’m not downplaying but overall our record with him is 77-69 overall and 36-55 in the SEC. Now in his 13th season we’ve only won more than seven games three times and the eight win season was without a true QB. It wasn’t that hard to win seven games in the past with our three cupcakes, UL being down, and being in the East with Vandy, SC, and UF having a down spiral. Also having MSt as our common west opponent helped. All of that’s over now that we don’t have divisions, SC and Vandy are seeing an uptick, and UF will eventually get on a roll with their top 10 talent.
Fans screaming and being upset that we’re losing these games fail to realize we’re basically a .500 team and a .350 team in the conference under Stoops and it’s going to get worse. Six wins from here on out is what we’re looking at with an occasional seven during a good season. When that happens and fans see it that’s when they’ll stop slinging money into the program which will force Barnhart’s hand; fans will get excited after a new hire but we won’t be much better if any better at all. It’s UK football, always had been and always will be.
Key word that is growing in BBN, based on facing reality .... apathy.I this is spot on. I used to drink all the Big Blue Kool-Aid with Stoops. Now, I have finally realized what is the truth, especially with Stoops. I don’t care as much anymore and sad to say… I’m apathetic when comes to our football team anymore. We are only slightly better than when Joker was the coach.
FSU posted an 0-11 mark back in the 70's, so it won't be their worst record. Also, FSU sued the ACC to get out of the conference, ostensibly because they don't like what they see regarding revenue compared to the Big 2. They don't have the kind of money to make a coaching change anytime soon. They aren't Texas, Texas A&M or Michigan, or Alabama. If FSU were to fire Norvell at the end of this season it would cost them bout $64 Million. They are stuck with him for at least a couple more years.Yeah but they are about to have their worst record in history.
Florida State won’t hire Stoops, even if they tried, it would be the same uproar that A&M had. They would go after DeonYeah but they are about to have their worst record in history.
You can do whatever you want and say whatever you want but it won’t make a difference. I’m just telling you how it is.Oh so we should just sit around and put our hope and faith in Stoops? You just won’t let go, will ya?
Stoops ain’t rebuilding nothing. He hasn’t built nothing here either. We are a total joke in the eyes of all fans and media around the nation.
I’m gonna stay right here posting everyday about his sorry ass should be fired until fans get smart and quit buying tickets and they’re forced to do something or he can’t take the pressure anymore and leaves.
Maybe Stoops will just hang em up after this season?Florida State won’t hire Stoops, even if they tried, it would be the same uproar that A&M had. They would go after Deon
Amd Stoops is also a top 10 paid coach...lol no one in their right mind is matching that moneyCal has value because he can atleast recruit. Stoops has none. He's a DC playing pretend HC.
NOBODY is taking this guy after this season. Stoops either retires or we suck again next year.The hope is that an Auburn, Wisconsin, Iowa or Iowa state type program that has washed up football school rep but is struggling worse than we have the last 5-10 years takes him and views it as “getting tk Kentuckys las 10 year average” as step 1. And the. They think bc they are a “football school and UK is a basketball school” that they can propel him to the next level. Not realizing our football fan base and facilities is top 25. Or he takes a pro DC job
NOBODY is taking this guy after this season. Stoops either retires or we suck again next year.
I agree with most of your post with the exception of two things. Barnhart is not a CEO. He is the athletic administrator, and yes revenue is part of that, but his job is also to put the athletic programs in a place to win as much as possible. If he was a CEO, he would have been shitcanned years ago for putting the department in one sided contract(s) and paying an inordinate amount of money for a sub-par products or services. He's rather pay obscene salaries and accept mediocrity and continued failure than to have to hire and fire anyone. NO other SEC team accepts that, and neither should we. They will hire and fire until they get the right guy. My second issue with your take (and many others on here) is this Eeyore take that continually uses our past as an excuse for failure today and tomorrow. I simply can't accept that. You get what you demand out of life. If we can have a successful basketball program and win national championships, you can do the same in football. Paying a top 10 D1 football salary while expecting this little is madness.Barnhart’s a CEO who’s only purpose is to bring in revenue, he knows enough about our history and understand that winning seven games a year and going to the Belk Bowl is enough to appease most fans and keep bringing in the money; he’s willing to pay Stoops $9m/year to accomplish that. Some people are going to jump on here and scream about the ten win seasons which I’m not downplaying but overall our record with him is 77-69 overall and 36-55 in the SEC. Now in his 13th season we’ve only won more than seven games three times and the eight win season was without a true QB. It wasn’t that hard to win seven games in the past with our three cupcakes, UL being down, and being in the East with Vandy, SC, and UF having a down spiral. Also having MSt as our common west opponent helped. All of that’s over now that we don’t have divisions, SC and Vandy are seeing an uptick, and UF will eventually get on a roll with their top 10 talent.
Fans screaming and being upset that we’re losing these games fail to realize we’re basically a .500 team and a .350 team in the conference under Stoops and it’s going to get worse. Six wins from here on out is what we’re looking at with an occasional seven during a good season. When that happens and fans see it that’s when they’ll stop slinging money into the program which will force Barnhart’s hand; fans will get excited after a new hire but we won’t be much better if any better at all. It’s UK football, always had been and always will be.
Art Laib wouldn’t be remembered that he came to Uk with Dan Issel by too many people. Member of 11 man signed group.NOBODY is taking this guy after this season. Stoops either retires or we suck again next year.
As Kamala would say…..See what can be, unburdened by what has been…I agree with most of your post with the exception of two things. Barnhart is not a CEO. He is the athletic administrator, and yes revenue is part of that, but his job is also to put the athletic programs in a place to win as much as possible. If he was a CEO, he would have been shitcanned years ago for putting the department in one sided contract(s) and paying an inordinate amount of money for a sub-par products or services. He's rather pay obscene salaries and accept mediocrity and continued failure than to have to hire and fire anyone. NO other SEC team accepts that, and neither should we. They will hire and fire until they get the right guy. My second issue with your take (and many others on here) is this Eeyore take that continually uses our past as an excuse for failure today and tomorrow. I simply can't accept that. You get what you demand out of life. If we can have a successful basketball program and win national championships, you can do the same in football. Paying a top 10 D1 football salary while expecting this little is madness.
Art was the " cigar man" when I first started watching UKArt Laib wouldn’t be remembered that he came to Uk with Dan Issel by too many people. Member of 11 man signed group.