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Potentially the Most Controversial Post I Have Ever Made: and One of the Least Likely to Come True.

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I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
 
I will hold my thoughts. He improved greatly last year as the season progressed (new to new offense and this year another new offense). He looks good now and as his young WRs get more snaps, he may look like a top QB prospect by season’s end. Of course, if the NFL wants him in the first or second round, he needs to go.
 
My Grandson is 4 yrs old and his name is Levi. I love him with all my heart. He is my oldest son’s only child.

I have a play on words that Im using this yr.:

Will Levi’s QB lead Kentucky to the National Title?
I wouldnt mind using it again next year.
 
Not a bad thought. He needs more touch on his short and intermediate throws. Fires it way too hard. Looks down his receivers too much also. Hopefully he will get better as this season progresses. He is very good.
He “Will”….
 
His physical ability is immense but he struggles with reads. That's why he holds the ball too long and takes way too many hits; and just missed open reads.

Good news is he's much better in that regard than last year; so he's moving in the right direction. Last year he repeatedly missed easy conversions vs zone. This year he's better but s long way to go. He still relies a ton on his oc to scheme his primary read open even vs man.

Even with all the warts his physical ability is so great he's a cinch first rounder and a legit threat to be #1 overall. If someone can teach him to make his reads and speed it up; sky is the limit.
 
Hahaha, love irrational fan passion

This has about as much chance of happening as all the folks on Rafters who said great 1st round talented BBall players would make so much NIL $$ they would stay in Lexington 2 yrs, not just 1 & done.

There is a big damn diff from cashing college NIL deals to earning NFL top round paychecks. Even if he "slipped" to 2nd round, the man would earn more & develop more in 2023 in the NFL than at UK.
 
The injury factor would be my concern.
Each snap a guy takes could be his last, and WL really isnt Superman.

He will definitely need NFL seasoning.
Two tons depend on which team selects him. He may fit the Big Ben role....but time will tell.

Just hope he stays healthy.
 
The injury factor would be my concern.
Each snap a guy takes could be his last, and WL really isnt Superman.

He will definitely need NFL seasoning.
Two tons depend on which team selects him. He may fit the Big Ben role....but time will tell.

Just hope he stays healthy.
Could of fooled me on Levis not being Superman. I mean he gets frontside blasted and body slammed into the ground by a monster of a man and gets right back up and shortly there after, Clark, errr, Will throws a 60 yd bomb for a TD!
 
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I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
If he's a first round pick...no way. The last pick in 1st round gets a $12M contract. The last pick in 2n round got 950k....so it get's dicey the lower you drop.
 
His physical ability is immense but he struggles with reads. That's why he holds the ball too long and takes way too many hits; and just missed open reads.

Good news is he's much better in that regard than last year; so he's moving in the right direction. Last year he repeatedly missed easy conversions vs zone. This year he's better but s long way to go. He still relies a ton on his oc to scheme his primary read open even vs man.

Even with all the warts his physical ability is so great he's a cinch first rounder and a legit threat to be #1 overall. If someone can teach him to make his reads and speed it up; sky is the limit.
It also could be that he looked bad on reads last year because with one exception our receiver corps sucked. We have upgraded considerably this year but our recievers are very green. Levi's has been really good this year considering our pass blocking has been spotty at best. It is easy to attribute " holding the ball too long" to the QB when in reality guys aren't getting open and linemen haven't held their blocks. There is nothing wrong with Will Levis that better blocking and more experienced receiver's will not cure.
 
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I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
I can see both sides with levis, I think he should probably leave because if a team is willing to take him that high leave while you can get the money
 
Not a bad post, just too early. Only 2 games in. Let's evaluate WL's strengths and weaknesses after maybe 10 games?
 
I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
Developmentally for his game I dont thing this is a crazy notion at all. But draft wise if he's still listed in the upper half of the first round it would be a tough move to pass up and go IMO.
 
If he is still a projected first rounder after the season or late in the season, then he's absolutely gone. he's projected as one of the first two or three QB's to be taken. That's far more serious coin than any NIL deal he's going to get. But I get it Hack, we're selfish and spoiled by having him here and want him around as long as possible.
 
I don’t totally disagree with the idea. I’ve always been a big fan of the Bill Parcells school of thought on QBs. Essentially he wasn’t real interested unless the kid had 3 years of starting under his belt.

Generally speaking history has shown Qbs that start for 3 years pan out better in the league.

However, if he’s a lock to be drafted in the top 10-15, maybe top 5 if he has a really strong year…then it’s unrealistic to expect him to turn that down.
 
It also could be that he looked bad on reads last year because with one exception our receiver corps sucked. We have upgraded considerably this year but our recievers are very green. Levi's has been really good this year considering our pass blocking has been spotty at best. It is easy to attribute " holding the ball too long" to the QB when in reality guys aren't getting open and linemen haven't held their blocks. There is nothing wrong with Will Levis that better blocking and more experienced receiver's will not cure.

He still misses easy reads. He still abandons the pocket and fails to step up in the pocket. Both of those would really help his OL.

He is better on both than he was last year; but he still has a long way to go on the mental side of the game.
 
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I don’t totally disagree with the idea. I’ve always been a big fan of the Bill Parcells school of thought on QBs. Essentially he wasn’t real interested unless the kid had 3 years of starting under his belt.

Generally speaking history has shown Qbs that start for 3 years pan out better in the league.

However, if he’s a lock to be drafted in the top 10-15, maybe top 5 if he has a really strong year…then it’s unrealistic to expect him to turn that down.
Some are projecting him to be the 1st pick.
He has a cannon arm, he is big at 6’3, 235.
He is as tough as nails, see UF sack.
He competes at a very high level and has a very high football IQ.
Things like touch and reads will be perfected throughout the year.
As much as I would love him back Hack; to borrow a phrase from Rupp Rafters…….He Gone.
 
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I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
It’s not controversial at all. I made a similar post a few weeks ago. I titled it ‘The Elephant In The Room’.
 
It’s not controversial at all. I made a similar post a few weeks ago. I titled it ‘The Elephant In The Room’.
Agree no controversy about it. We can hope, and I mean the hope isn’t just for us fans, but hope it would help the kid down the road. But in the end, it’s his and probably his family decision. I truly hope he makes the best decision for himself, because he really seems like a great young man with a dynamic future.
 
I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
I am in agreement with everything in this post. Not a word was controversial. Now that players can be paid handsomely, especially a quality QB it makes sense. Another year with the quality of youth on this years team, the sky would be the limit.

Another year in college working with a former pro coach will see him improve immensely. The money in the pros will be there and like it has been said, he is not in poverty today with NIL. NIL can be a good thing by keeping players in college.
 
Hahaha, love irrational fan passion

This has about as much chance of happening as all the folks on Rafters who said great 1st round talented BBall players would make so much NIL $$ they would stay in Lexington 2 yrs, not just 1 & done.

There is a big damn diff from cashing college NIL deals to earning NFL top round paychecks. Even if he "slipped" to 2nd round, the man would earn more & develop more in 2023 in the NFL than at UK.
Agree. He would have to fall out of the 2nd round for this to be a good suggestion. I think he's going much higher than you think. Follow some NFL message boards and many of them are talking about trading up for Levis. When you see NFL fans talking about trading up to get him, he ain't no 2nd rounder. Granted NFL fan boards aren't really what NFL scouts think of him but they are a good general indication. I think Levis is a top 10 pick. That might shock people but he's pretty well liked in NFL circles. Probably more liked by the NFL than by some in the college ranks.
 
The biggest issue I saw with him last year was he was often off on crossing routes. Far too often the ball was thrown behind the receiver, and a few times it was too far out in front of the receiver. The bottom line is he needs to be much more accurate on those routes.
 
If WL is projected as a first round pick it makes zero sense for him to stay an extra year. Now the question is will he be projected as a 1st round pick? Having a big arm is not what it takes to be successful in the NFL. Lots of big time arms are no longer in the NFL by the time they are 30. If he is projectected as a 1st rounder, be foolish financially to return for an extra year of college.
 
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I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
He should stay because he’s playing at Kentucky and there ain’t nothing better and the NFL sucks anyway.
 
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I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
Only contriversial to those that don't understand the wisdom in your thoughts.
I agree, "fine tuning" is needed.
He has NFL potential. Not NFL ready. I don't a see 1st round grade, but what do I know. Still early in the season.
 
I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
I don’t know how much a quarterback can improve on it but , he still isn’t very good at “seeing the field “.
 
Some are projecting him to be the 1st pick.
He has a cannon arm, he is big at 6’3, 235.
He is as tough as nails. see UF sack.
He competes at a very high level and has a very high football IQ.
Things like touch and reads will be perfected throughout the year.
As much as I would love him back Hack; to borrow a phrase from Rupp Rafters…….He Gone.
Could you please post a link to any projection that has him #1. I’ll wait.
 
It is controversial because he's currently projected as a top 5 pick. $35M vs $1M NIL. That's a no brainer. He'll only drop if he has an Anthony Richardson kind of game, here or there. That's not going to happen. Bottom line, as much as we'd like to have him back, it ain't going to happen. Might as well enjoy him while we go 'em! GBB!
 
The last projection I say yesterday is him going 8th. 3rd QB drafted. He has to go. With guys getting guaranteed money, you just can't risk an injury no matter how much you might improve, and NIL money will end if he gets hurt. Any top 3 projected QB that stays in school is making way too big of a gamble in my mind. While I don't necessarily agree with how college to pro works, you have to cut hay while the sun is shining, and he can cut some hay next spring.
 
I think Will Levis should seriously consider taking advantage of his remaining Covid year, earn his decent NIL bucks on this level for another year, and then go pro.

I know he has a great arm, but I think he needs more fine-tuning on short and medium routes, etc.

Sure, he would make more money his first year in the pros, but the financial portion of his decision is not as clear-cut as it was pre-NIL.

He could probably clear a million with another season, here. He’s reportedly at half-a-million this year.

Another year of fine-tuning with a quality NFL man guiding him in the SEC would likely put him at the top of the first round, just 12 months farther down the road as is now anticipated.

How much money difference is there between the 5th player taken and the 25th player taken in the NFL draft?

Fire Away!!
When you watch so many other QB's play all the time you see a few that never misses an open receiver. You see some that always stays calm and buys all the time they possibly can under control. You see some that has great vision all over the field and can pick out that open receiver every time.

Remember the play where Levis rolled out to the right and kept running to the sideline and out of bounds? There was a wide open receiver slanting the way he was running wide open and he didn't see him. This is just one example of why I agree that Levis needs to get his field vision down while he is here. Whatever round he gets drafted, he will be a backup on the sideline not getting any time on the field at least for a while. Maybe a year, two, three years? He can spend another year here playing against good competition getting better with his vision and anything else that might need a little work instead of standing on a sideline getting rusty not being on the field.

Three people on the SEC show likes five other QB's in the SEC alone better than Levis. They aren't expert evaluators but if they see QB's without bias that way I wonder how the NFL scouts view Levis knowing all the QB's across the country? How many times do guys get lied to about what round they are projected to go in? Levis, IMO, needs to use all his time here getting the best he can be then whatever happens in the pro situation happens and he would have done all he could possibly do to prepare for that with the time allowed to be here.
 
JT O’Sullivan, PhD, 10+ year NFL backup QB, CFL, NFL Europe, “The QB School” has a 2 part piece analyzing Levis, you can watch on YouTube.

He loves Levis, but points out several times that his lack of touch is a function of his throwing mechanics, and that Levi’s’ mechanics aren’t suited to throwing touch passes. That’s something that is easier to diagnose than correct, and trying to change a QBs throwing style sometimes does more harm than good.
 
I’ll hold off until I see how he progresses this season.
This ,,, It is still early so revisit this at the end of the season because you may change your mind a few times !
 
I agree with everyone that says it’s too early for this conversation. Let’s wait and see how things progress for Will before we plan his future. I want whatever is best for him. You have to consider not only his future potential, but also potential for future injuries. I hope he doesn’t receive any more his like he got last week. I would still be on the ground if I got hit like he did last Saturday.
 
JT O’Sullivan, PhD, 10+ year NFL backup QB, CFL, NFL Europe, “The QB School” has a 2 part piece analyzing Levis, you can watch on YouTube.

He loves Levis, but points out several times that his lack of touch is a function of his throwing mechanics, and that Levi’s’ mechanics aren’t suited to throwing touch passes. That’s something that is easier to diagnose than correct, and trying to change a QBs throwing style sometimes does more harm than good.
Just ask Tim Couch
 
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