I mean, this question has been used to justify every single god that's ever existed, and every time it's been asked science eventually answers it. Now the question of the universe's creation might just be outside the realm of human understanding and maybe that will never be answered, but saying it cannot have been created without a creator isn't necessarily correct.
So, do you believe there was a George Washington or maybe a Chritopher Columbus? If so, why and proof they existed? You can't other than what you read in a book, I wasn't around when Washington was here, nor Columbus so where's concrete proof? See how that works?
Show me proof, concrete proof, that there's not a teapot orbiting around Alpha Centauri.
You seem to be an empiricist…show me “concrete” empirical evidence that your empiricism is consistent with reality. Show me empirically that love, other minds, mathematics, history, or even you yourself exist.
Define natural marvels. The incredible complexity of life that you believe happened “naturally?” Or, are you talking about healings that blow the minds of doctors or visions of the future that come true?
Asking atheists to prove the non-existence of God is a fair question when the subject of the thread was “is there a God?” There are believers who will argue the existence of God, but there are also people who answer in the affirmative because the weight of the evidence leads them to answer “yes” to the question, simply based upon the amazingness and complexities of the universe. Those people tip toward “yes,” but accept that if an atheist can prove their conclusion wrong, they would accept the atheist’s religious beliefs.
While generally accepted, the Big Bang is just a theory. Maybe it is wrong and time, space, and matter (or all the foundations for everything we know) have “just always been here and never needed to be created.” The concept of the “age” of the universe may be a mistake? In the world of “who knows” that is still probably a theory. It may not be accepted by most, but not out of the realm of possibility.
You are a piece of work. Where the hell did you come from anyway? Go back to the UL or Kansa Board or wherever.
Well said! I'm stunned by the people on this board-and in political debate-who don't realize that the the burden of proof lies with whoever makes an assertion, not with whoever disagrees.
Throughout the existence of mankind, there have been nearly 10,000 gods that people have believed in.
An elementary rule of logic is that one can't prove a negative. The title of this thread might be "Are aliens scoping out the earth?" and no one could PROVE that they aren't, regardless of what we believe. It seems like almost no one understands this any more and logic is generally dead in the USA.
The same thing as all the vape shops and liquor stores. People looking for a crutch.
If somebody rose from the dead in Lexington, KY, that would be pretty big news, wouldn't you think? Especially if that person were an important enough entity to be tried, convicted, and executed by the ruling political and religious leaders of the Southeastern United States. One would think there would at least be a handful of up close and personal, first hand accounts, and it would be a matter of some concern to Pilate, the Roman Government, and the Sanhedrin, among others.
As said before...it is in front of your eyes. It is YOUR choice not to see it.
It is not wrong to ask people to evidence the foundation for their beliefs. It is illogical and a dodge to respond that you don’t have to do so. What is also illogical is to ask someone who believes in God to meet your standard for proof. Your opinion about God is not the bar for evidence beyond your own
As I said, this is one of the biggest questions that man has dealt with. I do not know what a bait thread is. My curiosity is primarily in what percentage of people would say there was no god. I thought the percentage would be somewhere around 1/3, but that was just a guess. I suspect it will end up being less than a third. We'll see. I left it open for 30 days.
I reserve the right to be wrong, but it is my understanding that an atheist does not believe in god because of lack of evidence, but remains open to demonstrable and verifiable proof. Faith is belief without evidence. Atheists do not believe in believing, especially without evidence. Furthermore, my understanding is that an agnostic is a person who does not know whether there is a god and may also believe it is impossible to ever know, with certainty, that god exists.
If you mean adding an option that falls in between Yes or No (ex. Maybe or Unsure) in the same way non-binary land somewhere between male or female, then I think that makes complete sense. I bet if that option was added then plenty of people who responded would probably pick it. I get that you tried to make a joke because you're probably transphobic or just plain ignorant but your suggestion would probably be a good idea.
