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The Kentucky Department of Public Health casually dropped a press release on Friday about pediatric deaths from both COVID-19 and influenza within the past month. It didn't take long for it to turn into a PSA for vaccines though citing that the child who died from the flu was unvaccinated. 6 of the 10 paragraphs in the press release mention the word "vaccine." Of course, the identities of these shadow children will never be released for any independent source to verify.

Also, how are we still calling it COVID-19 in medicine? Coranavirus existed before the '19 strain, and it continues to exist beyond it. I noticed that they are calling it the COVID-19 ("2024-25 formula") when referring the vaccine. That just goes to show that using the "-19" part is about the messaging of it because people would ignore it if you called it COVID-24, -25, -26 and beyond. We don't call it the Spanish flu vaccine (2024-25 formula).

https://www.chfs.ky.gov/News/Documents/Kentucky Reports First Pediatric Influenza Death This Respiratory Virus Season.pdf

https://www.wkyt.com/2025/02/07/kentucky-reports-child-flu-covid-deaths/

And we'll never know about possible comorbidities, or ongoing health issues that might have contributed, whether or not they picked up this "flu" or "coronavirus" during treatment, and we won't know if the symptoms were caused by something else entirely like heavy metals poisoning. They won't test for it once they get "flu" or something on the brain.

We also won't ever know what they mean by "unvaccinated." That could mean at least several different things- never vaccinated, not vaccinated this season, or not vaccinated within the past 2 weeks to 6 months.

That's what's great about this hundreds of billions a year industry.

It'll be called c19 until the fear of it wears off or they find another lab-created pestilence that is more effective
 
Shadow children? Clearly he thinks that no children have actually died from these viruses, but I can provide the obituaries if you'd like?
Yes, please do.

If you were the parent/guardian of the child who died from influenza, then wouldn't you be upset that the KYDPH revealed the child's vaccination status? It implies culpability onto the parent for not getting the child vaccinated, does it not?
 
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How do you know this (where is it reported)? The article from the CJ said the location "was not identified."

You are calling it politicization, but you don't seem to realize that it's actually a commercialization for the vaccines. The press release is selling the fear of death of children to push a demand for vaccine sales. Let's maybe not do that?
I am unlucky enough to be from the small town of the first little girl and have a first cousin that spent the previous night with this family at the Somerset hospital. The other student was from the county that I live beside.

I read, but I don’t pause to think about vaccination status. I usually see that a kid dies and it breaks my heart. I now understand your point and it is divisive. I have two under 5 and the only vaccines they receive are from truly gnarly things like polio, German measles, and the alike. Mine have never received the covid or flu vaccines.
 
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This doesn't make any sense legally. So one federal judge doesn't have "power over" the executive branch. Who does then? Only the SCOTUS? The executive branch is free to ignore orders of any court lower than SCOTUS?

They’re probably discussing the ability of a federal district judge issuing injunctions that bind the federal government nationwide over all the people it governs, rather than just the district or as applied to the specific plaintiffs.

That issue will be in front of SCOTUS within the next 18 months as soon as the admin picks the best, most insanely corrupt and overstepping, district court ruling to go with.
 
This doesn't make any sense legally. So one federal judge doesn't have "power over" the executive branch. Who does then? Only the SCOTUS? The executive branch is free to ignore orders of any court lower than SCOTUS?

Its an overly simplified lay argument that, while not correct in form, is correct in rationale.

Courts have the ability to review whatever. However historically they correctly applied what was once called "judicial restraint". That concept had courts refusing to weigh on questions of national security, political questions, etc.

I use past tense because now with judicial activism there is no such restraint.

At its most basic level, its a horrendous overreach to tell a secretary of an executive office that he has no authority to audit his own office. It's absurd on every level, lay or otherwise, is clearly a massive overreach, and is almost surely an example of the very kind of corruption this audit already uncovered.
 
This doesn't make any sense legally. So one federal judge doesn't have "power over" the executive branch. Who does then? Only the SCOTUS? The executive branch is free to ignore orders of any court lower than SCOTUS?
Essentially, yes except the SCOTUS has no power over the POTUS , but the POTUS has no authority over the SCOTUS. As coequal branches of Govt they have no authority over the other.
Under the scenario you're describing the POTUS could shutdown every Federal courthouse in America, just eliminate the ability for Judges to hold court. Same thing is happening with these rulings, only it'd be like the aid to the Atty General shutting them down.

Impeachment and removal by Congress is the answer if the POTUS is in the wrong.
 
Showed ignored content, God only knows why. Got this doozy. Lead paint? It takes millions to tell people not to eat that shit? The same paint millions of our parents grew up around and survived just fine? You know how hard it is to come across lead paint anymore? Even in older homes where even if it exists still it’s in trace amounts or has been buried under 30 layers? EVERYBODY, knows about lead paint. Don’t need millions to fund nonsense. You wanna know the real reason for the lead paint fear mongering? You know why x-ray rooms are lined with lead right?

I saw the lead paint post briefly, too. LOL

"PROTECTING children from lead paint."

Surprised we aren't "paying billions to protect Floridians from Ponce DeLeon."
 
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They’re probably discussing the ability of a federal district judge issuing injunctions that bind the federal government nationwide over all the people it governs, rather than just the district or as applied to the specific plaintiffs.

That issue will be in front of SCOTUS within the next 18 months as soon as the admin picks the best, most insanely corrupt and overstepping, district court ruling to go with.
There are plenty of cases where a nationwide injunction has benefitted Republican party and business interests. For example, district court judges have enjoined a bunch of Obama and Biden era employment law regulations (wage and hour, noncompete, vaccine mandate, etc.). If a district court lacked that power, then unlawful regulations would go into effect in some places but not others.
 
I'm wondering if they froze shamstain's free meds. Somebody call Elon and ask him to turn that spigot back on for the sake of the teenage males he's talking about getting pregnant....

Now he can't even comprehend the difference between grants and graft, loans and aid, cons and contracts, fraud and fulfillment.

Contracts are an agreement to provide payments for services rendered or product deliverer. Usually, if a company wins a bidding process, it's because they've demonstrated an ability to fulfill them.

Wonder why bowiesskidmark isn't upset about Chelsea Clinton being given millions without earning any of it, or doesn't care that Andy had a fence built around the governor's mansion without funding approval or a bid process, and gave the job to one of his donors? These are just 2 of the BILLIONS of reasons why he's a hyperbolic hypocrite and an imbecile that shouldn't be taken seriously nor replied to directly.

He's a chihuahua that will bite anything and will btch and moan when it gets kicked across the room for biting the wrong thing or person. If there was a fire in his wing of the asylum, and he heard CNN mention shelter in place, he'd swear the firemen trying to rescue him were mean, neo-nazi conservatives.
 
Its an overly simplified lay argument that, while not correct in form, is correct in rationale.

Courts have the ability to review whatever. However historically they correctly applied what was once called "judicial restraint". That concept had courts refusing to weigh on questions of national security, political questions, etc.

I use past tense because now with judicial activism there is no such restraint.

At its most basic level, its a horrendous overreach to tell a secretary of an executive office that he has no authority to audit his own office. It's absurd on every level, lay or otherwise, is clearly a massive overreach, and is almost surely an example of the very kind of corruption this audit already uncovered.
I would say your argument (and the other "impeach federal judges" arguments on here) are the oversimpled, lay arguments. IMO, it is a reasonable opinion that an agency that was created by and appropriated by Congress cannot be eliminated (or have its appropriation frozen) by the executive branch. Whether that is legally correct will be tested at the appellate level. But I don't see that's an outrageous decision.
 
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They're going to do this bullshit again.

And again.... and again


So this year the flu vaccine is "trivalent." They put 3 strains in the shots.

2 type A variants and one type B variant. I'm sure that "has nothing to do with" what they're seeing in hospitals and communities. Notice that no one is talking about "viral shedding" anymore.

Nevermind that every year for the past 20 or so, the variant they put IN THE SHOTS is the same variant that predominates the infections found in testing the sick for that year. I posted charts and links to them from the CDC and NHS several times over the last few years. Usually deleted, of course, since c19.
 
Why is this far left, anti-American FILTH not behind bars?

Why has she not been deported?



They won't and haven't because of the rampant corruption. The end goal is to get the populace to revolt so they can quell the revolt and eliminate the opposition that way. Publishing all of this corruption, but not prosecuting it will drive that into a frenzy.
 
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There are plenty of cases where a nationwide injunction has benefitted Republican party and business interests. For example, district court judges have enjoined a bunch of Obama and Biden era employment law regulations (wage and hour, noncompete, vaccine mandate, etc.). If a district court lacked that power, then unlawful regulations would go into effect in some places but not others.

For a brief period of time, a nationwide injunction from the Eastern District of Texas in Top Cop benefited every American citizen who values privacy, right or left. (Edit: and even though that specific one was tossed, there’s another one in place right now on a different case, different argument, but staying enforcement of CTA).

Gorsuch said they should have taken the case to resolve the issue of overzealous district courts issuing nationwide injunctions. That was January 23.

You better believe Clarence Thomas will be right there with him when they get the chance. Ali to probably. No telling how the cocktail circuits and blackmail will have Coney Barrett and Roberts break when it happens.
 
I would say your argument (and the other "impeach federal judges" arguments on here) are the oversimpled, lay arguments. IMO, it is a reasonable opinion that an agency that was created by and appropriated by Congress cannot be eliminated (or have its appropriation frozen) by the executive branch. Whether that is legally correct will be tested at the appellate level. But I don't see that's an outrageous decision.
The POTUS is under no command to spend money Congress approves. Just as the Congress is under no command to approve funds the POTUS wants available.
 
There are plenty of cases where a nationwide injunction has benefitted Republican party and business interests. For example, district court judges have enjoined a bunch of Obama and Biden era employment law regulations (wage and hour, noncompete, vaccine mandate, etc.). If a district court lacked that power, then unlawful regulations would go into effect in some places but not others.

Broad regulations and actions affecting things outside their usual scope, sure. Not direct actions of firing an individual or suspending fraudulent payments.
 
And again.... and again


So this year the flu vaccine is "trivalent." They put 3 strains in the shots.

2 type A variants and one type B variant. I'm sure that "has nothing to do with" what they're seeing in hospitals and communities. Notice that no one is talking about "viral shedding" anymore.

Nevermind that every year for the past 20 or so, the variant they put IN THE SHOTS is the same variant that predominates the infections found in testing the sick for that year. I posted charts and links to them from the CDC and NHS several times over the last few years. Usually deleted, of course, since c19.
Considering they use an inactive form of the viruses, I’d say you are just fear mongering. The flu evolves so quickly that it is really hard to create an effective vaccine. That’s the reason why I do not get one. These inert vaccines are not going to make anything worse, however, if you have some evidence to counter my claim, you’d completely revolutionize epidemiology and probably earn yourself some serious cash.
 
This doesn't make any sense legally. So one federal judge doesn't have "power over" the executive branch. Who does then? Only the SCOTUS? The executive branch is free to ignore orders of any court lower than SCOTUS?
So you are saying the court is the highest power in the land? The constitution says the President is in charge of the executive branch. If a judge can rule over judicial, legislative and executive branch then a rogue judge can be emperor. The judge didn't even make a legal case for his ruling.... He was just like "nah, I don't like it". LOL
 
There are plenty of cases where a nationwide injunction has benefitted Republican party and business interests. For example, district court judges have enjoined a bunch of Obama and Biden era employment law regulations (wage and hour, noncompete, vaccine mandate, etc.). If a district court lacked that power, then unlawful regulations would go into effect in some places but not others.
So people didn't get fired for refusing the vax? Seems like I remember about 30K people losing their jobs.
 
I would say your argument (and the other "impeach federal judges" arguments on here) are the oversimpled, lay arguments. IMO, it is a reasonable opinion that an agency that was created by and appropriated by Congress cannot be eliminated (or have its appropriation frozen) by the executive branch. Whether that is legally correct will be tested at the appellate level. But I don't see that's an outrageous decision.
Then why didn't the judge give a legal argument for the ruling and why didn't the judge let Trumps lawyers make arguments? For instance, he didn't just ban Trump from accessing Treasury records. He banned the duly placed Treasury secretary too.
 
The POTUS is under no command to spend money Congress approves. Just as the Congress is under no command to approve funds the POTUS wants available.
Yea it's wild. Biden spends fema money on Illegal immigrants, spends DOD funds on Ukraine, spends border patrol money on illegals and spends usaid money of dei and trans nonsense..... not a peep. But try to save money and everyone is a by the book constitutionalist. LOL.
 
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