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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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You mean money exchanged like this?

Yeah... Biden's so close to China they have decided to start backing us instead of Putin. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£
So, was that payout (if even true) to kushner directly? Like the payments to the bidens? Or to his business? That is different.

Regardless ... you are against kushner's business receiving $$, but you are perfectly fine with the president receiving direct, personal payments. And kushner is and was not the potus.


Smh...
 
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Yea, but until a non-corrupted judge says "admitted" then it is not real, according to pea-brains on here...
 
Which leaves all the power and control in the hands of those same rich people who pay the politicians. Just like the rich want.

No.

The CEO of Pfizer canā€™t mandate people take his experimental shots.

The CEO of Tesla canā€™t force me to send him a percentage of my annual earnings to subsidize vehicles for his customers.

The CEO of Haliburton canā€™t force me to send him a percentage of my annual earnings to kill foreigners.

Etc. etc.
 
-the soviet union was communist. China is communist. NK/Cuba/Venezuela/Angola (and a host of other African/Asian/Central and South American States...are under or have suffered through Marxist regimes. It's *always* bad.

^an all powerful state is a primary tenet of Marxism. In real life anytime a government is communist, oppression/control/subjugation is the norm. It's by design. It's a feature, not a bug.

-communism and fascism are siblings, not opposites.
Getting cheeky with the emotes so you want me to explain point by point how idiotic your post was?

1) "the soviet union was communist." - Did Stalin live in a one room apartment in a seized mansion? What type of cars did the top brass drive? (Hint: google GAZ Volga) The Soviets used communism as a weapon, not a real ideology.

2) "China is communist." - Ask any economist how they would describe China's economy. Not a single one will say communist. Do you believe the rest of the CCP's lies or do you take them with a healthy dose of salt like the rest of world with functioning brains? Did covid come from the wild like they say?

3) "NK/Cuba/Venezuela/Angola (and a host of other African/Asian/Central and South American States...are under or have suffered through Marxist regimes. It's *always* bad." - This isn't a serious list. The only one on there that even vaguely qualifies is Cuba, and they've been able to be remarkably successful given the brutal and unethical American embargo. North Korea barely even uses the trappings of Marxism, Juche and Kim Il-sung's cult of personality were homegrown.

4) "an all powerful state is a primary tenet of Marxism. In real life anytime a government is communist, oppression/control/subjugation is the norm. It's by design. It's a feature, not a bug." - You obviously haven't read much Marx but what you're referring to is the work of Lenin, not Marx. Lenin was a brilliant and prolific writer, but he was too focused on what he felt was the question of his day, how to implement Marx's observations in his Soviet revolution. Most of his work is practical in nature rather than academic and as such is extremely limited in scope and viability.

5) "communism and fascism are siblings, not opposites." - Fascism was intentionally developed as an opponent and alternative to Marxism(socialism/communism). It was specifically designed and intended by its creators as an opposite. This can be seen in every phase of the ideology. They came for the communists/socialists first and blamed the Reichstag fire on them. Nationalism was paramount over international cooperation. Ethnicity and race were exalted instead of dismissed. Trade unions were banned. Corporations and business leaders were praised. They intentionally did the opposite of every Marxist ideological fixture.
 
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Getting cheeky with the emotes so you want me to explain point by point how idiotic your post was?

1) "the soviet union was communist." - Did Stalin live in a one room apartment in a seized mansion? What type of cars did the top brass drive? (Hint: google GAZ Volga) The Soviets used communism as a weapon, not a real ideology.

2) "China is communist." - Ask any economist how they would describe China's economy. Not a single one will say communist. Do you believe the rest of the CCP's lies or do you take them with a healthy dose of salt like the rest of world with functioning brains? Did covid come from the wild like they say?

3) "NK/Cuba/Venezuela/Angola (and a host of other African/Asian/Central and South American States...are under or have suffered through Marxist regimes. It's *always* bad." - This isn't a serious list. The only one on there that even vaguely qualifies is Cuba, and they've been able to be remarkably successful given the brutal and unethical American embargo. North Korea barely even uses the trappings of Marxism, Juche and Kim Il-sung's cult of personality were homegrown.

4) "an all powerful state is a primary tenet of Marxism. In real life anytime a government is communist, oppression/control/subjugation is the norm. It's by design. It's a feature, not a bug." - You obviously haven't read much Marx but what you're referring to is the work of Lenin, not Marx. Lenin was a brilliant and prolific writer, but he was too focused on what he felt was the question of his day, how to implement Marx's observations in his Soviet revolution. Most of his work is practical in nature rather than academic and as such is extremely limited in scope and viability.

5) "communism and fascism are siblings, not opposites." - Fascism was intentionally developed as an opponent and alternative to Marxism(socialism/communism). It was specifically designed and intended by its creators as an opposite. This can be seen in every phase of the ideology. They came for the communists/socialists first and blamed the Reichstag fire on them. Nationalism was paramount over international cooperation. Ethnicity and race were exalted instead of dismissed. Trade unions were banned. Corporations and business leaders were praised. They intentionally did the opposite of every Marxist ideological fixture.
They were not the opposite of marxist idiotology, they were the eventual result OF them. Every single time. Your religion has failed every single time it has been tried. And your privilege blinds you to the eventual murder of millions. Every single time.
 
No.

The CEO of Pfizer canā€™t mandate people take his experimental shots.

The CEO of Tesla canā€™t force me to send him a percentage of my annual earnings to subsidize vehicles for his customers.

The CEO of Haliburton canā€™t force me to send him a percentage of my annual earnings to kill foreigners.

Etc. etc.
Then how did those things happen? Oh yeah, those corporations lobbied(paid) politicians to do them. Those ideas didn't spring fresh from some Senator's mind. They were inserted by the people who stood to benefit from them.
 
Then how did those things happen? Oh yeah, those corporations lobbied(paid) politicians to do them. Those ideas didn't spring fresh from some Senator's mind. They were inserted by the people who stood to benefit from them.

And exactly why those of us who are sane want the government to have as little power and control as possible.
 
Just the way the rich people who run our politicians like it. Theyā€™re the ones making the money, profiting off our misery. ā€œBig daddy govā€ is just their smarmy middlemen who do what theyā€™re told.

Yeah the politicians arent the end game big boss just the enforcement arm.

Last I checked, nearly 600 new billionaires were made from Covid. A rate of one/every 30 hrs. Roughly the same rate, people fell into poverty during that same time frame. Most politicians made bank off their big pharma stocks as well as gladly accepted contributions from them. Trump included. Newsom made a 1B mask deal with China Iā€™m sure he got major kickbacks from.

Plandemics are big biz. Politicians, global and corporate elites win big while the rest of us are forced to mask up, watch grandma die alone, watch our businesses go under, take experimental shots, and go broke.
 
Who would you trust your money with more? Jared Kusher or Hunter Biden? Gun to your head, had to give it to one or the other to manage.
Kushner gets my cash. Hunter gets my hoes. Both used the Presidency to enrich themselves as have most children or relatives of the POTUS.
 
Then how did those things happen? Oh yeah, those corporations lobbied(paid) politicians to do them. Those ideas didn't spring fresh from some Senator's mind. They were inserted by the people who stood to benefit from them.
Which is why lobbying of that nature should be banned as a practice. Politicians are getting rich off of these lobbying efforts, lining their pockets. Lobbying of that nature coerces politicians into making decisions or pushing agendas counter to what their constituents voted for.
 
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Which is why lobbying of that nature should be banned as a practice. Politicians are getting rich off of these lobbying efforts, lining their pockets. Lobbying of that nature coerces politicians into making decisions or pushing agendas counter to what their constituents voted for.
This is the way.
 
Then how did those things happen? Oh yeah, those corporations lobbied(paid) politicians to do them. Those ideas didn't spring fresh from some Senator's mind. They were inserted by the people who stood to benefit from them.
Do we currently have limited Government? Using the current level of Government intervention in our lives as an argument against why limited Government doesn't work is living in fantasy land. Our Government is anything but limited in power and scope.
 
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Getting cheeky with the emotes so you want me to explain point by point how idiotic your post was?

1) "the soviet union was communist." - Did Stalin live in a one room apartment in a seized mansion? What type of cars did the top brass drive? (Hint: google GAZ Volga) The Soviets used communism as a weapon, not a real ideology.

2) "China is communist." - Ask any economist how they would describe China's economy. Not a single one will say communist. Do you believe the rest of the CCP's lies or do you take them with a healthy dose of salt like the rest of world with functioning brains? Did covid come from the wild like they say?

3) "NK/Cuba/Venezuela/Angola (and a host of other African/Asian/Central and South American States...are under or have suffered through Marxist regimes. It's *always* bad." - This isn't a serious list. The only one on there that even vaguely qualifies is Cuba, and they've been able to be remarkably successful given the brutal and unethical American embargo. North Korea barely even uses the trappings of Marxism, Juche and Kim Il-sung's cult of personality were homegrown.

4) "an all powerful state is a primary tenet of Marxism. In real life anytime a government is communist, oppression/control/subjugation is the norm. It's by design. It's a feature, not a bug." - You obviously haven't read much Marx but what you're referring to is the work of Lenin, not Marx. Lenin was a brilliant and prolific writer, but he was too focused on what he felt was the question of his day, how to implement Marx's observations in his Soviet revolution. Most of his work is practical in nature rather than academic and as such is extremely limited in scope and viability.

5) "communism and fascism are siblings, not opposites." - Fascism was intentionally developed as an opponent and alternative to Marxism(socialism/communism). It was specifically designed and intended by its creators as an opposite. This can be seen in every phase of the ideology. They came for the communists/socialists first and blamed the Reichstag fire on them. Nationalism was paramount over international cooperation. Ethnicity and race were exalted instead of dismissed. Trade unions were banned. Corporations and business leaders were praised. They intentionally did the opposite of every Marxist ideologii mean cal fixture.

-nope.

-I guess it's back to the "real communism hasn't been tried" trope.

-as an idea with a small "c"...communism is an happy idea. Sadly unattainable in actual practice.

-fascism and communism may be rivals, but that does not make them opposites.
 
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If they aren't Communist...that must be news to the 2nd largest political party involved in Russian government. šŸ¤£
What part of second largest political party in Russia do you not get? They have 57 out of 415 seats in their form of parliament. Putinā€™s party dominates policy. If you want to call him and it authoritarian thats probably more accurate. But isnā€™t that what youā€™re after here in America? You libs have it all figured out right? Putins not a good guy. XI is infinitely more dangerous.
 
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Pretty well covers it:

"You might have heard that Ron DeSantis is a RINO. Of course, the former congressman and Florida governor hasnā€™t departed from Republican orthodoxy in any significant way during his career (and, in fact, now heā€™s helping to define it); heā€™s loyally supported the partyā€™s candidates across the spectrum, and, as his fame and power have grown, campaigned for them; and heā€™s been a determined party-builder in Florida. In any rational world, the pejorative ā€œRepublican In Name Onlyā€ shouldnā€™t show up within hailing distance of DeSantis, but former President Donald Trump is trying to make it stick."

"In recent years, though, Trump has appropriated it as completely as the phrase ā€œfake news.ā€ In a sign of the personalization of the Republican Party, one doesnā€™t get deemed a RINO for showing disloyalty to the party as an institution, or to its political principles and policy commitments, but for crossing one man, who himself, as it happens, has little loyalty to the party.

On top of everything else, Trumpā€™s use of the term is a case study in projection. Trump called Kemp, one of the most stalwart Republicans in the country, ā€œa horrendous RINO who has betrayed the people of Georgia, and betrayed Republican voters.ā€ Heā€™s inveighed against ā€œRINO former Attorney General Bill Barr.ā€ He endorsed Kari Lake in last yearā€™s Arizona gubernatorial race by saying she ā€œwill do a far better job than RINO Governor Doug Ducey.ā€ These, and many other Republicans, earned the sobriquet by not acquiescing in Trumpā€™s schemes to overturn the 2020 election, or endorse his conspiracy theories about it. The 2022 midterms proved that an obsession with the 2020 election is electoral poison, "

"Of course, thatā€™s exactly what Trump has sought. Itā€™s not that he is trying to deliberately to undermine the party, but that his own personal interests and psychological needs take precedence. Heā€™d no more sacrifice anything he truly cares about for the sake of the party than heā€™d jump off the Verrazano bridge. Pretty much everyone he calls a RINO has devoted his or her adult life to the Republican Party. Trump is different. Prior to 2012, he ping-ponged back and forth among various party affiliations. So attenuated was his connection to the party in 2016, RNC chairman Reince Priebus famously fashioned a loyalty pledge to get him to commit to supporting the eventual nominee."

"This makes Trump an odd arbiter of whoā€™s a genuine Republican or not. Itā€™s not the zeal of the convert, because his own conversion is still tenuous and situational. A fear that haunts Republicans about 2024 is that someone will beat Trump in the primary campaign, and the former president will turn around and try to sabotage the nominee out of spite."

"This isnā€™t a far-fetched worry. When Brian Kemp wouldnā€™t do his bidding after 2020, Trump issued forth with arguably the most RINO-worthy sentiment of any major Republican in recent memory. ā€œStacey, would you like to take his place? Itā€™s OK with me,ā€ he said of Stacey Abrams at a rally. ā€œOf course having her, I think, might be better than having your existing governor, if you want to know what I think. Might very well be better.ā€
Itā€™s hard to see any other Republican living that down, but Trump canā€™t himself be a RINO by definition. If he decides to try to blow up the GOP in 2024, bizarrely, the supposed RINOs will be the ones who decide to stick with the Republicans."

"The level of personal deference required to pass the Trump RINO test is extraordinary, and apparently escalating. Days ago, his loyalists were braying for DeSantis to speak out about the possibility of a Trump indictment. DeSantis ended up making a cogent and pointed critique of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, while stipulating that he doesnā€™t know about paying hush money to porn stars. This set off the likes of Steve Bannon and Mike Lindell who canā€™t bear the slightest criticism of Trump, as if he were St. Francis of Assisi instead of Donald J. Trump of Mar-a-Lago. When DeSantis doubled down by talking about the importance of truth and character in an interview with Piers Morgan, Donald Trump Jr. lashed out by slamming the governor for ā€” what else? ā€” acting ā€œon orders from his RINO establishment owners.ā€ Yes, truth and character are now RINO values."

"the label itself .... not going away until Trump goes away. For that to happen Republicans will have to become, in Trump terms, a RINO party ā€” not any less conservative, less fierce, or less Republican, but no longer beholden to the man who has successfully made himself the measure of all things. Trumpā€™s definition of a RINO is a travesty, and itā€™s used to abuse Republicans in good standing whose commitment to the party is deeper and more principled than his will ever be."

 
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He was pointing out the stupidity of the 2nd Amendment gun nuts who think their AR15 will protect them from the big bad government.
He was saying how idiotic that is as a rationale for not limiting access to AR15s.
Good luck against F-16s, tanks, artillery, grenades, armored vehicles, and nukes with your itty bitty lady gun.
It might make you feel like a big boy with your AR15 because they are great for mowing down children in schools or people in malls...... but not so good for taking on a government controlled military.
Again for the slow. This has been pointed out several times. Tell it to the Vietnamese and the taliban.
 

Finally a country with some morals. A law that bans child molestation. If republicans tried to pass a law like that here, democrats would fight this like fighting fire. They would lose what little minds they have left.

Democrats hate healthy children

Just another example of Fascist ideologies y'all support.

Uganda is banning identifying as LGBT, idk where you're getting child molestation from.

And to make blanket statements like that show how bigoted you are.

Ofc if Republicans tried passing that, and they would if given the opportunity, Dems would fight it because it's unconstitutional. It's literally removing rights from a a minority group.

Lastly and funny you mention children's health, it's Republicans that always block funding for people (kids) that need it. Look at the school lunch programs.
 
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Again for the slow. This has been pointed out several times. Tell it to the Vietnamese and the taliban.
Big Taliban fan are you?
Not surprising at all. Very much in line with the modern Republican party. Forced rapist's baby births.... Attacks on gay/trans....Destroying of schools/education.
Got a poster of Bin Laden and Trump in your mom's basement?
 
Big Taliban fan are you?
Not surprising at all. Very much in line with the modern Republican party. Forced rapist's baby births.... Attacks on gay/trans....Destroying of schools/education.
Got a poster of Bin Laden and Trump in your mom's basement?
No moron, Iā€™m not a fan. But it is a fact that they fought off not only the USA but the russians as well. I knew you were too slow to get the point.
 
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