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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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Rand has his faults like everyone in Congress but always felt like he actually gives a crap about Americans vs the rest of the 95%+ in that cesspool. If we are really honest, having an Inspector General oversee it is a waste because they are very likely corrupt or at min incompetent and will not keep track of every dollar spent. It's just too much money and too many corrupt people involved especially considering where it is going. Absolutely no doubt alot of people in both Ukraine and Washington & Military Complex will make a lot of money off this bill.
The billion dollars the Biden threatened to withhold if they didn't fire the prosecutor.... All that money disappeared out of the Ukraine bank it was deposited in. You are about to see theft on a level never before seen on Earth.
 
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GoP is done with baby hands Cheeto face. A cleanup crew already hired to clean the shit stains out of the WH.

 
the Elon deal hasn’t gone through yet.
After it was announced that they accepted the offer.

The Elon thread got nuked because some libs didn't want to admit that they aren't as popular as they think. Youtube hiding down votes because they didn't want people to see how many people agreed that msm are horrible... Twitter hiding followers and intentionally keeping right wing content off the trending line... FB deletes tons of right wing content and doesn't even give a reason...

It is awfully easy to pretend the whole world has california morals when people in Cali do all the moderation and hide stuff they disagree with. Just announcing the deal has seen massive shifts in #s. Imagine what Elon will find when he gets to kick the tires. He's negotiating a lower price now because they had so many bots on the site that they let ride because they pumped up their ad revenue and they agreed with their political view.
 
I went to a public school, but at a time before CRT thank the lord. We actually learned things other than becoming a mindless SJW. Sad world we live in today.
I also attended public schools when they were in the business of educating and not indoctrinating. I doubt I could today and I am thankful my grand children do not and did not.
 
You’re hopeless. Society will continue to suffer for generations to come as long as people like you remain in charge. Very sad and pathetic.
People like me have never been in charge. The country would be a very different place if that were the case. You said you weren't a conservative, so what are you then that isn't so "sad and pathetic"?

Just have to respond again. Are you really saying socioeconomic is referring to racism? For real? If so, I’d love to know where you were educated.
Duh, the socio stands for societal. One of the top twenty schools in the country. How about you?
 
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People like me have never been in charge. The country would be a very different place if that were the case. You said you weren't a conservative, so what are you then that isn't so "sad and pathetic"?


Duh, the socio stands for societal. One of the top twenty schools in the country. How about you?

People like you ARE in charge, this very second. Did you not realize woke liberals run all branches of gov’t?

That’s interesting to see you correctly define that when you previously defined it as racism. So along those lines, my question is this: you have two people that come from the same area that is poor, have parents that work similar jobs and fall below the poverty line. One is white and one is black. Which one has the greatest opportunity for improvement? Please support your answer and it’s not a trick question.

As for school, there are many ways to define a “top 20” school, so that means nothing to me. I attended Xavier in Cincinnati on an athletic scholarship. Graduated with a 3.8 and have done better for myself than I probably deserve.

I’m currently employed by a large company doing a job I love and one that offers excellent benefits while simultaneously running my own family business that is thriving. Can walk away from either with no issue, but life is too good.
 
Biden has New Yorkers upset. Things must be bad.

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She’s probably being treated way more fairly in russia than she would be in old racist USA.


Yeah, they also really treat the LGBTQRSTUV...community with the utmost respect over there as well.

Some people will just never realize how well they have it here.
 
the Elon deal hasn’t gone through yet.
When it became apparent the Deal was going to happen, Twitter employees were bailing right and left and they were dumping the algorithms responsible for the shadow banning, this instantly put a lot of people back as followers of certain accounts. James Woods got a crap ton of followers back too, as did a number of others.
 
People like you ARE in charge, this very second. Did you not realize woke liberals run all branches of gov’t?

That’s interesting to see you correctly define that when you previously defined it as racism. So along those lines, my question is this: you have two people that come from the same area that is poor, have parents that work similar jobs and fall below the poverty line. One is white and one is black. Which one has the greatest opportunity for improvement? Please support your answer and it’s not a trick question.

As for school, there are many ways to define a “top 20” school, so that means nothing to me. I attended Xavier in Cincinnati on an athletic scholarship. Graduated with a 3.8 and have done better for myself than I probably deserve.

I’m currently employed by a large company doing a job I love and one that offers excellent benefits while simultaneously running my own family business that is thriving. Can walk away from either with no issue, but life is too good.
Centrist losers run all three branches.

Racism is a societal construct. The word socioeconomic was coined specifically to combine societal factors with economic ones because people live in the real world with context, not a spreadsheet. In America, all other things being equal as you posited, the white child would have an easier path with more opportunity than the black child. The white child will grow up in a country that was built for them to their specifications by unpaid black labor and criminally underpaid immigrant labor. Asian, Hispanic, European, etc. Irish and Italians weren't even considered white until the latest recruitment drives. The black child will grow up in a country that has systemically oppressed people of his melanin content from its inception in codified law, informal custom, and economic disadvantage. Some of that marginalization has been rectified over the decades thanks to the hard work of activists and advocates. As we see from the socioeconomic realities of today there's still much yet to be done.

Economic issues are obviously the highest priority as they effect us all. But to deny there is a racial element to the economic issues is just ignorant.
 
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Centrist losers run all three branches.

Racism is a societal construct. The word socioeconomic was coined specifically to combine societal factors with economic ones because people live in the real world with context, not a spreadsheet. In America, all other things being equal as you posited, the white child would have an easier path with more opportunity than the black child. The white child will grow up in a country that was built for them to their specifications by unpaid black labor and criminally underpaid immigrant labor. Asian, Hispanic, European, etc. Irish and Italians weren't even considered white until the latest recruitment drives. The black child will grow up in a country that has systemically oppressed people of his melanin content from its inception in codified law, informal custom, and economic disadvantage. Some of that marginalization has been rectified over the decades thanks to the hard work of activists and advocates. As we see from the socioeconomic realities of today there's still much yet to be done.

Economic issues are obviously the highest priority as they effect us all. But to deny there is a racial element to the economic issues is just ignorant.
The Socioeconomic realities of today are lead in large part by decades of Democrat leadership in the urban areas. Tell us what Democrat leadership in these urban areas is doing or has done to better the lives of those in the black community?
 
The white child will grow up in a country that was built for them to their specifications by unpaid black labor and criminally underpaid immigrant labor.
Please provide the blueprints/Statement of Work/whatever means of providing specifications that whatever white child you are talking about gave to these black and immigrant laborers who built this country to the white child's specifications.

I'd expect more playgrounds, amusement parks and Chuck E. Cheeses.
 
Centrist losers run all three branches.

Racism is a societal construct. The word socioeconomic was coined specifically to combine societal factors with economic ones because people live in the real world with context, not a spreadsheet. In America, all other things being equal as you posited, the white child would have an easier path with more opportunity than the black child. The white child will grow up in a country that was built for them to their specifications by unpaid black labor and criminally underpaid immigrant labor. Asian, Hispanic, European, etc. Irish and Italians weren't even considered white until the latest recruitment drives. The black child will grow up in a country that has systemically oppressed people of his melanin content from its inception in codified law, informal custom, and economic disadvantage. Some of that marginalization has been rectified over the decades thanks to the hard work of activists and advocates. As we see from the socioeconomic realities of today there's still much yet to be done.

Economic issues are obviously the highest priority as they effect us all. But to deny there is a racial element to the economic issues is just ignorant.

Well you got the loser part correct, however calling them centrist shows just how extreme you are. There is nothing centrist about this administration and their failed policies. Your desire to push further left shows your level of indoctrination which no doubt came at least in part by your ultra woke “top 20” school.

You’ve been brainwashed and from my experience, and you’re almost certainly beyond help. There are real problems within the black community that need to be looked at and dealt with in an honest way. Something that people like you will never do. You’re also completely incorrect with your answer to my question, but your biases make it not worth debating.

Enjoy your wine in your ivory tower while overlooking the peasants oh wise one. Please continue to bless everyone with your god like knowledge as you do absolutely nothing to help anyone.
 
Centrist losers run all three branches.

Racism is a societal construct. The word socioeconomic was coined specifically to combine societal factors with economic ones because people live in the real world with context, not a spreadsheet. In America, all other things being equal as you posited, the white child would have an easier path with more opportunity than the black child. The white child will grow up in a country that was built for them to their specifications by unpaid black labor and criminally underpaid immigrant labor. Asian, Hispanic, European, etc. Irish and Italians weren't even considered white until the latest recruitment drives. The black child will grow up in a country that has systemically oppressed people of his melanin content from its inception in codified law, informal custom, and economic disadvantage. Some of that marginalization has been rectified over the decades thanks to the hard work of activists and advocates. As we see from the socioeconomic realities of today there's still much yet to be done.

Economic issues are obviously the highest priority as they effect us all. But to deny there is a racial element to the economic issues is just ignorant.
It's also why progressives, as we've seen twice now with bernie, will never capture the black vote. This class warfare rhetoric, while African Americans are disadvantaged, are upward aspirational and want entrepreneurs and take pride in those that are wealthy in their community. Whereas this bernie idea that all money is in some zero sum pie...meaning what exists is all that exists so we must take from others as opposed to give others a way to make their own will never work.

And of course, we can pretend the US is the only country that has these problems of socioeconomics or we could ignore it all together by doing gestures like france where they don't even keep track on race which seems cute but is a disaster.

 
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There are real problems within the black community that need to be looked at and dealt with in an honest way. Something that people like you will never do.
There are real problems within our entire society that need to be looked at and dealt with in an honest way. Something that people like you will never do.
 
Marxism is a loser ideology Taylor made for losers and slackers. Dion knows this. In today’s America or the past 30+ years of America, black people have not been marginalized. They have every opportunity any other ethnic group has and some that they don’t. Dion also knows this. They will play this hand for as long as no one calls their bluff. Which most people won’t because, you guessed it, they don’t want to be labeled racist.
 
There are real problems within our entire society that need to be looked at and dealt with in an honest way. Something that people like you will never do.

That’s all people like you and politicians who have been running these inner cities for decades do. How’s that worked out for ya?

You claim my way wouldn’t work, but you have no data to back up your theory as it’s never been tried by the likes of you. Quite the opposite with your ideas.
 
That’s all people like you and politicians who have been running these inner cities for decades do. How’s that worked out for ya?

You claim my way wouldn’t work, but you have no data to back up your theory as it’s never been tried by the likes of you. Quite the opposite with your ideas.
What’s your way? Haven’t seen anything other than donate to the poor. Which is obviously wholly inadequate. Philanthropists and average Joes alike have been doing it for all of history to no avail.
 
A high tide raises all ships. Yet in the minds of people like Dion, even if everyone is better off, it's horrible and grossly unfair.

Reminds me of a set of hypotheticals given to Americans in a study from the 1980's. They were asked if they would prefer if next year the U.S. GDP increased 3% while the Japan GDP increased 2%, or would they prefer if the U.S. GDP increased 6% while Japan's GDP increased 10%?

More people picked the scenario where America beat Japan with modest growth, vs. the scenario where America had double the GDP growth, but Japan outpaced us.

It's not a zero-sum game. In general, when business owners do well, so do their employees. When America does well, in general, EVERYONE does well. But if the ones providing capital and taking risk get a bigger cut, to people like Dion, it's an injustice that needs correcting.

Every American of every race/nationality/gender/whatever has a quality of life that far surpasses most of the rest of the world, but instead of celebrating what we have, we instead piss and moan about "micro-aggressions" and "mansplaining" and all that stupid sh!t that is going to tear this country down.
 
Lol this is fantasy utopia. It also assumes all humans are non individuals who are robots.

Owners take risk...you can go work elsewhere if you do something with yourself
The only risk an owner takes is losing their capital and becoming a worker like everyone else.
 
“When the king does well, so do all of us!” There shouldn’t be any owners. No gods, no masters. Only man.
Do you own a home? A car? Stocks? Bitcoin? Jewelry? Keepsakes? Heirlooms? Are you okay with forfeiting all your possessions to a central authority for your "Utopia?"

And speaking of your 'Utopia," you're familiar with the Tragedy of the Commons, correct?
 
Do you own a home? A car? Stocks? Bitcoin? Jewelry? Keepsakes? Heirlooms? Are you okay with forfeiting all your possessions to a central authority for your "Utopia?"

And speaking of your 'Utopia," you're familiar with the Tragedy of the Commons, correct?
You learned the wrong lesson from Lloyd’s work. I’m not a libertarian ancap. The Tragedy of the Commons is exactly why we need robust regulations, not Republican deregulation.
 
Lol this is fantasy utopia. It also assumes all humans are non individuals who are robots.

Owners take risk...you can go work elsewhere if you do something with yourself
I'm almost 75 and still working 70 hours a week. My folks grew up in the depression and taught me the value of hard work. We grew up dirt poor, but started our own business. We all worked 70 to 80 hours a week to get a little ahead. Some think we should all live on Big Rock Candy Mountain where everything is free and the lazy should prosper as well as everyone else.
 
The only risk an owner takes is losing their capital and becoming a worker like everyone else.
You certainly have a worker's mentality.
You learned the wrong lesson from Lloyd’s work. I’m not a libertarian ancap. The Tragedy of the Commons is exactly why we need robust regulations, not Republican deregulation.
Robust regulations? You mean everyone isn't going to be kind and generous and thoughtful and respectful to one another without intervention from the central authority in your Utopia?

I absolutely know the lesson of the Tragedy of the Commons. It's you who doesn't.
 
I'm almost 75 and still working 70 hours a week. My folks grew up in the depression and taught me the value of hard work. We grew up dirt poor, but started our own business. We all worked 70 to 80 hours a week to get a little ahead. Some think we should all live on Big Rock Candy Mountain where everything is free and the lazy should prosper as well as everyone else.
This is nuts. Life isn’t about work. Retire, get some rest, actually enjoy your life. You don’t have much of it left. We all only get one ride on this rock.
 
This is nuts. Life isn’t about work. Retire, get some rest, actually enjoy your life. You don’t have much of it left. We all only get one ride on this rock.
I enjoy what I'm doing most of the time, but the point is if as libs say "my body, my choice", if I choose to work harder and longer, should I not be rewarded more than someone who chooses to be less productive? Ever heard the phrase "close enough for government work"? I have and assure you that if the government owns everything, production will drop dramatically.
 
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