I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere fairly recently. I'm assuming they don't do it because if they did then it may affect their relationship with other officials
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I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere fairly recently. I'm assuming they don't do it because if they did then it may affect their relationship with other officials
I'm wondering what the comments would be if the exact call in the exact circumstances went against TA&M. I sadly suspect that Pat Adams would be a BBN hero for making the call and the fans would demand his striped shirt be hung in Rupp Arena. Probably in the spot vacated by Pitino's jersey.
Xception, Again, check the 10 rules that are used to call a Technical Foul. When it is called for slamming the ball down, is when it is used in malice, or disrespect. Never for a player being excited for a good play.
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Of course they did. It's sad to see a poster so compliant with toeing the company line. It was an unnecessary call. There is consensus in the college basketball world on this.
He had the right to call it , a majority not liking it doesn't change that . Whether he should or shouldn't have called it is subjective , he's the ref so it's up to him to determine that . I wish he hadn't called it but he did and I wasn't the least bit surprised , I expected it when the ball left his hand in fact I thought wow you just got us a technical before I heard the whistle on TV . I didn't know so many thought throwing the ball was no big deal , surprising on that . The college basketball world does not consist of the ones who stepped forward to voice their displeasure with the call .
I don't need to check the rules , head of officials has ruled on it . I bet there's no rule for punting the basketball either and to read this board you would think that's ok so long as he punted it with excitement in the direction they were already heading . There would be no malice in such an act or disrespect , just excited over his play . Unsportsmanlike conduct encompasses many things that aren't in the rules specifically , it's like that to give refs the ability to call unanticipated actions .
Unsportsmanlike doesn't , I wasn't sure which action Adams gave him the technical for .
This is truth. We don't know if he ripped his azz for being an attention whore or gave him an attaboy. I'm sure that what we heard from the SEC is what 90% of the people on this board expected
It's a good idea. You think officials don't have a bias? Or favorite coaches? Or teams they hate?
I think every school should be afforded the ability to keep 2 officials off their games.
I think every school should be afforded the ability to keep 2 officials off their games.
I kind of have reverse thoughts. If he's dropped from games he does not care..since they are contract workers he'll just pick up a game somewhere else and go on. I think, since refs are just there to collect checks, they should force him to do his very next game in Rupp....he wouldn't have the balls to do it and our crowd would roast him.
Umm...Pat doesn't have the balls? Pat? What's the old SNL skit where nobody knows if Pat is a man or a woman? We may be on to something here.
I wonder if the refs have an option to fill out a list of preferred or not preferred game venues?
I would guess, and it is only a guess, that would be the case. If I were a ref, I would have to ask never to be assigned to do an IU game or a UNC game. I would make sure they lose anything that is remotely close and maybe a few that weren't.
Probably so. It's another reason they have too much authority and not enough accountability.
Everyone think's Tyler and Hump reacted right away as if they knew they were wrong but it appears they responded to Adams either blowing his whistle or making a T sign. He may have also said it's a T. It did not seem that they looked at Adams until he did something. If they thought they did anything wring they would have looked at the officials in front of them....who by the way chose not to make that call. The bottom line is Adams was in the wrong position to make that call. They was absolutely no un-sportsman like conduct during that call.
I would like to ask you a question. My question pertains to one paragraph in your post which is this.
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"Had Humphries done it earlier in the game and I was officiating, I would have walked up to him and said, "Hey young man, you can't be doing that or we'll have to call a technical." Then if he did it with 9 seconds, T him up."
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You are saying here that the only thing that was ridiculous about the call was the fact that he done it with 9 seconds left. My point is you are saying that slamming the ball on the court IS grounds for a technical foul. Did I understand you right?
Xception, You keep referencing the SEC Head of Officials as though the word came straight from heaven. Really now, did you expect anything different? Can you cite any example(s) where a head of officials has ever publicly admitted an error by an officiating crew under his authority or found fault with one particular call?
I can't say that a head of officials has never publicly admitted error by his or her staff. But I am a long term sports fan and I can't recall it ever having happened. They protect their own and there are no repercussions for those mistakes.
I can't say that a head of officials has never publicly admitted error by his or her staff. But I am a long term sports fan and I can't recall it ever having happened. They protect their own and there are no repercussions for those mistakes.
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Seth Greenberg asked a bunch of refs. They all said it was a no call. Refs could call 10 fouls every play, they could, but they dont. They tend to call fouls with material effect. Calling that unsportsmanlike was a stretch and most would not have called it. The way he threw it and the circumstances of when he threw it had no material effect on anyone. Hence, the no call. Adams is and has always been a terrible referee. Yes, Hump should not have given Adams the opportunity to be the POS he is.
I completely agree. With all that is on the line in today's game, officials should be required to address the media about their calls. I can understand them needing to review the less obvious calls, but they can have a monitor available during the press conference to review them. As for the more obvious calls, they should definitely be able to remember why the called what they called. Initially, I thought maybe they should be given a few days to review everything, but that gives them more time for excuses. For this reason, I've changed my mind and feel they need to be addressed immediately after the game.
I think once they're held accountable, they'll think twice before inserting themselves into the game or be called out on it when they do.
How did you not?? it gave us a 71-70 lead....and if the ref decides not to call that but decides to call one just a few min later that's wrong no matter how you slice it.
Maybe I looked away or just didn't see it , even if I had noticed it what would it have mattered ? Refs miss calls , what's a foul one play is not the next . Did the ball go up in the air or across the court , did he bounce it hard and catch it . That's up to the refs , not me .
I knew from the very first minute that word came out what to expect. Even an acknowledgment of a bad call changes absolutely nothing. They are never, ever going to reverse the out come of the game, flawed or not.
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