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OT: Brian Bowen in 'no mans land'

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From our buddy Pete Thamel at Yahoo. Copied and pasted text so he wouldn't get more clicks.

CHICAGO – At the NBA draft combine on Thursday, the controversial prospect known as “Player 10” finally got to play.

Brian Bowen II, the former Louisville recruit at the heart of the federal basketball investigation, played his first competitive game in nearly a year. And it just happened to be a job audition in front of hundreds of NBA scouts and executives.

To be blunt, it didn’t go well. Bowen missed both his shots in his opening game, turned the ball over five times and looked like the most overwhelmed player on the floor.

“He’s in no man’s land,” said a veteran NBA scout who watched Bowen struggle on Thursday. “He may not be good enough to play in the G League right now.”

And that puts Bowen in a precarious predicament with the deadline to withdraw from the NBA draft coming on May 30. Does Bowen enter to compete for a spot in a league he’s clearly not ready to play in? Or does he return to school (he transferred to South Carolina) and attempt to gain eligibility via an organization (the NCAA) that’s given him no indication that’s a viable option.

“This is my career on the line, honestly,” Bowen said on Thursday.

Without even playing, Bowen made an indelible impact on the college basketball season. His recruitment ended up as the centerpiece of a scandal that’s shrouded the sport for the past eight months. A federal complaint released in late September alleges that Adidas executives, an agency employee and a financier arranged for Bowen’s family to receive $100,000 for his commitment to Louisville.

This led to the firing of Louisville’s Hall of Fame coach, Rick Pitino, which is still the most significant reverberation from the investigation.

Bowen said on Thursday that he hasn’t spoken to Pitino since the story broke on Sept. 26. Nor has he spoken to Christian Dawkins, the former runner for the agency of former NBA agent Andy Miller, who allegedly orchestrated the payments to Bowen’s family. When asked for his response to the allegations in the case, Bowen politely declined: “I really can’t talk about that. The FBI case is still ongoing.”

He did speak to the impact on his life the past eight months, as he said people still “give you the side eye a little bit.” He added: “It’s the biggest thing I’ve ever been through in my life. They took the game away from me that I truly love. I had to realize how much passion I do have for the game.”

Privately Bowen has been consistent with his message to NBA teams – he had no idea that there was a deal brokered around his recruitment. He said he’s worked out for five teams – the Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets, Atlanta Hawks, San Antonio Spurs and Utah Jazz – and has interviewed or interviews scheduled with eight others.

“They just want to get to know me as a person,” Bowen said of the NBA teams. “They see a lot of headlines. People put out I’m such a bad person and everything, but I want to give off to them that I’m a pretty good person overall.”

Bowen may be forced to attempt to reach the NBA before his game is ready. There’s significant pessimism among college sports administrators that the NCAA will ever rule Bowen eligible to play a college game. He said he’s received no clarity from the NCAA, and there’s no indication that will change in the next week. “I’ve been given the minimal,” he said. “We’re really just on their time.”

And that time is running out, which leaves Bowen at a difficult crossroads. He likes South Carolina, where he said he transferred to because Gamecock assistant coach Chuck Martin had recruited him. Bowen practiced with the team and has enjoyed playing for head coach Frank Martin.

Bowen is clearly not ready to be an NBA player. Many of the college coaches in the audience on Thursday pointed out that even in high school Bowen wasn’t perceived as a one-and-done or even a two-and-done player. He was an elite shooter with good size – he measured at 6-foot-6 – who needed to develop his all-around game and fill out his body.

NBA scouts noticed the sweet stroke through a few layers of rust on Thursday, but they mostly noticed the rust.

“I just have to get my groove back,” Bowen said. “It’s been a while. I haven’t played in a legit game in so long. I have to get my feel back.”

A major life decision looms for Brian Bowen in the next two weeks. And none of the options appear ideal.
 
Thought he was overated when UL got him. Had one all star game where he actually hit a few js prior to that was a poor mans Knox.
 
Probably a good idea for him to play overseas for a couple of years. Would make pretty decent money and allow him to work on the things he needs to and he can give the NBA a try at another time.
 
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But he made money for his family. That's all that matters, Uncle T getting that sports car at his expense. So no No, don't try and get that worthless degree, college basketball is slavery. Don't let them use you like that. Don't mess up by taking advantage of that free education and setting yourself up for a few million over a lifetime.
 
He deserves a 2nd chance. Point. Blank. Period. I think he's getting way too much blame assigned to him. Should he really be responsible for being a whistleblower on these adults who were up to no good? That's an awfully tough scenario to put a 16/17/18 year old in. I don't know. Just seems like people get away with a lot worse and pay a lot less penalty. This kid needs college basketball.
 
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He deserves a 2nd chance. Point. Blank. Period. I think he's getting way too much blame assigned to him. Should he really be responsible for being a whistleblower on these adults who were up to no good? That's an awfully tough scenario to put a 16/17/18 year old in. I don't know. Just seems like people get away with a lot worse and pay a lot less penalty. This kid needs college basketball.

He needs slavery? Why?
 
Mama needs that $$$$ better get going Bowen

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He deserves a 2nd chance. Point. Blank. Period. I think he's getting way too much blame assigned to him. Should he really be responsible for being a whistleblower on these adults who were up to no good? That's an awfully tough scenario to put a 16/17/18 year old in. I don't know. Just seems like people get away with a lot worse and pay a lot less penalty. This kid needs college basketball.
Why should the NCAA let him off the hook? He hasn't been forthcoming or apologetic about the pay for play scheme he participated in. He certainly wasn't a whistleblower. It would be one thing if he would come out and own his mistakes, but he hasn't. So why should he be given a 2nd chance?
 
But he made money for his family. That's all that matters, Uncle T getting that sports car at his expense. So no No, don't try and get that worthless degree, college basketball is slavery. Don't let them use you like that. Don't mess up by taking advantage of that free education and setting yourself up for a few million over a lifetime.

The entire point is that he should be allowed to make that money in a way that doesn't keep him from playing college basketball. So this reinforces the idea you're trying to argue against.

He can still go get that free education, by the way. He's enrolled at South Carolina. Stay and get your diploma if it's worth so much.
 
The entire point is that he should be allowed to make that money in a way that doesn't keep him from playing college basketball. So this reinforces the idea you're trying to argue against.

He can still go get that free education, by the way. He's enrolled at South Carolina. Stay and get your diploma if it's worth so much.

So he was paid, his family was able to use him up for what they needed. It was against the current rules, making him ineligible. Why would he want the option of returning to college? Diplomas are worthless even though 80% of this board makes a living that way. It's slavery in the purest form. Go overseas and make more money for your cousins and uncles and Godparents. Oh, college needs to be an option when you don't have anymore.

The point here is it's comical to watch people who bash the college system in all of its forms then turn around and want college to be an option. People just want what they want, it's not about right or wrong.

He should be ineligible for life, his family and himself responsible. Leave the college game to the kids who are clean and play by the rules, and want an education. The Patterson's are a great example.

I think it's totally ridiculous to even entertain these people. Some of these families are scumbags and their kids are self entitled brats.
 
Why should the NCAA let him off the hook? He hasn't been forthcoming or apologetic about the pay for play scheme he participated in. He certainly wasn't a whistleblower. It would be one thing if he would come out and own his mistakes, but he hasn't. So why should he be given a 2nd chance?

Who hasn't he admitted his mistakes to? You? Me? Were you in any meetings he has had with anyone from the NCAA? I didn't say he was a whistleblower. I said he shouldn't have to be one. He's was a teenager. It's hard enough for adults to do something like that and that's usually with non-familial types.
 
He deserves a 2nd chance. Point. Blank. Period. I think he's getting way too much blame assigned to him. Should he really be responsible for being a whistleblower on these adults who were up to no good? That's an awfully tough scenario to put a 16/17/18 year old in. I don't know. Just seems like people get away with a lot worse and pay a lot less penalty. This kid needs college basketball.
But college basketball doesn't need him or players like him.People who buy that these "kids" don't know anything about the money are living in a dream world. 10 year olds' playing AAU ball know about the money floating around.

College is such an awful place with all the slavery and exploitation going on why would anyone go there. If he wanted to play at UK the NCAA and the media would be up in arms about it. Bowen was in no way a whistle blower,he and his parents tried to pull a quick deal to make a quick $100,000. Call it what it is an example of the corruption in college sports.
 
From our buddy Pete Thamel at Yahoo. Copied and pasted text so he wouldn't get more clicks.

CHICAGO – At the NBA draft combine on Thursday, the controversial prospect known as “Player 10” finally got to play.

Brian Bowen II, the former Louisville recruit at the heart of the federal basketball investigation, played his first competitive game in nearly a year. And it just happened to be a job audition in front of hundreds of NBA scouts and executives.

To be blunt, it didn’t go well. Bowen missed both his shots in his opening game, turned the ball over five times and looked like the most overwhelmed player on the floor.

“He’s in no man’s land,” said a veteran NBA scout who watched Bowen struggle on Thursday. “He may not be good enough to play in the G League right now.”

And that puts Bowen in a precarious predicament with the deadline to withdraw from the NBA draft coming on May 30. Does Bowen enter to compete for a spot in a league he’s clearly not ready to play in? Or does he return to school (he transferred to South Carolina) and attempt to gain eligibility via an organization (the NCAA) that’s given him no indication that’s a viable option.

“This is my career on the line, honestly,” Bowen said on Thursday.

Without even playing, Bowen made an indelible impact on the college basketball season. His recruitment ended up as the centerpiece of a scandal that’s shrouded the sport for the past eight months. A federal complaint released in late September alleges that Adidas executives, an agency employee and a financier arranged for Bowen’s family to receive $100,000 for his commitment to Louisville.

This led to the firing of Louisville’s Hall of Fame coach, Rick Pitino, which is still the most significant reverberation from the investigation.

Bowen said on Thursday that he hasn’t spoken to Pitino since the story broke on Sept. 26. Nor has he spoken to Christian Dawkins, the former runner for the agency of former NBA agent Andy Miller, who allegedly orchestrated the payments to Bowen’s family. When asked for his response to the allegations in the case, Bowen politely declined: “I really can’t talk about that. The FBI case is still ongoing.”

He did speak to the impact on his life the past eight months, as he said people still “give you the side eye a little bit.” He added: “It’s the biggest thing I’ve ever been through in my life. They took the game away from me that I truly love. I had to realize how much passion I do have for the game.”

Privately Bowen has been consistent with his message to NBA teams – he had no idea that there was a deal brokered around his recruitment. He said he’s worked out for five teams – the Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets, Atlanta Hawks, San Antonio Spurs and Utah Jazz – and has interviewed or interviews scheduled with eight others.

“They just want to get to know me as a person,” Bowen said of the NBA teams. “They see a lot of headlines. People put out I’m such a bad person and everything, but I want to give off to them that I’m a pretty good person overall.”

Bowen may be forced to attempt to reach the NBA before his game is ready. There’s significant pessimism among college sports administrators that the NCAA will ever rule Bowen eligible to play a college game. He said he’s received no clarity from the NCAA, and there’s no indication that will change in the next week. “I’ve been given the minimal,” he said. “We’re really just on their time.”

And that time is running out, which leaves Bowen at a difficult crossroads. He likes South Carolina, where he said he transferred to because Gamecock assistant coach Chuck Martin had recruited him. Bowen practiced with the team and has enjoyed playing for head coach Frank Martin.

Bowen is clearly not ready to be an NBA player. Many of the college coaches in the audience on Thursday pointed out that even in high school Bowen wasn’t perceived as a one-and-done or even a two-and-done player. He was an elite shooter with good size – he measured at 6-foot-6 – who needed to develop his all-around game and fill out his body.

NBA scouts noticed the sweet stroke through a few layers of rust on Thursday, but they mostly noticed the rust.

“I just have to get my groove back,” Bowen said. “It’s been a while. I haven’t played in a legit game in so long. I have to get my feel back.”

A major life decision looms for Brian Bowen in the next two weeks. And none of the options appear ideal.
Pitino really worrying about the kid. Hasn't even talked to him.
 
its quite obvious if Bowen wasn't black, i doubt he would be a future inmate. Yes that is your ugly picture.
 
Can SC make him a special student coach with a scholarship like UK did for Enis? Earn a degree and practice with the team, just don’t play in games.
 
My only take on it is the NCAA SHOULD let him know either way. It’s not that complicated. Personally I don’t care if he becomes eligible or not. Be it him or any other player I just think the NCAA should not drag their feet on him or any other players waiting on eligibility.
 
Nobody is stopping him from going to college. He’ll just have to do like everyone else and pay his own way with some combination of grants, scholarships, loans, or a job. He gave up his chance for a free ride on a basketball scholarship when he got caught with his hand in the Adidas cookie jar.
 
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Bowen is a talentless loser. He has inmate written all over him.

He’s the poster child for what’s wrong with sports now.
Dude you become worse by the day. Do tony soprano a favor and take down your avatar. Big pussy fits you better with garbage like this. You know damn good and well if he played at uk you wouldn't say shit. Just another terrible post
 
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If he's being told he may not make a G League roster, he might do himself a favor by turning to an NAIA school, if for nothing else to get back to playing competitive basketball.
 
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Ben Simmons is a piece of crap. Luckily for him, he’s really good at one thing he can make a living doing.
Otherwise, he would be, or end up in prison. I can’t stand that a-hole.

Bowen is a talentless loser. He has inmate written all over him.

He’s the poster child for what’s wrong with sports now.

Jeez, man, that's two examples just this week where I've seen you assigning convict status to a player without basis. That sadly says more about you than those players.
 
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