Oregon and Kentucky

[AshWilliams]

Oregon and UK are essentially the same net worth and UK has more revenue. How are they a football power and we are not?

Who would rather go play on the left coast in the cold rain in Suicide Country rather than Horse Country?

We're not doing it right.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/19/college-sports-programs-valuations.html

17.	University of Oregon	$780M	$151M	Big Ten	Eugene, OR	public
18.	University of Arkansas	$776M	$167M	SEC	Fayetteville, AR	public
19.	University of Kentucky	$775M	$174M	SEC	Lexington, KY	public

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Oregon and UK are essentially the same net worth and UK has more revenue. How are they a football power and we are not?

Who would rather go play on the left coast in the cold rain in Suicide Country rather than Horse Country?

We're not doing it right.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/19/college-sports-programs-valuations.html

17.	University of Oregon	$780M	$151M	Big Ten	Eugene, OR	public
18.	University of Arkansas	$776M	$167M	SEC	Fayetteville, AR	public
19.	University of Kentucky	$775M	$174M	SEC	Lexington, KY	public

Because Knight is 86 years old, has a personal net worth of 46B+ and told Lanning he wants to see a NC. To do what it takes and it was covered.

 

[optimus-blue]

Nike

 

[Rockfly78]

Culture.

Not everything is about money. Since the two schools are so similar why isn’t Oregon a basketball power while Kentucky is? Culture

 

[BigBlueFever]

Oregon and UK are essentially the same net worth and UK has more revenue. How are they a football power and we are not?

Who would rather go play on the left coast in the cold rain in Suicide Country rather than Horse Country?

We're not doing it right.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/19/college-sports-programs-valuations.html

17.	University of Oregon	$780M	$151M	Big Ten	Eugene, OR	public
18.	University of Arkansas	$776M	$167M	SEC	Fayetteville, AR	public
19.	University of Kentucky	$775M	$174M	SEC	Lexington, KY	public

I absolutely love Lexington, but I think you're underselling the Northwest. If you haven't been out there, it's beautiful country. I'm a UK graduate, but Eugene would be a really cool place to go to school.

 

[Wildcat40229]

Oregon was bad to middle of the road until Phil Knight got involved. Brooks was there for 18 years and his best record was 8-4, but mostly at or below .500. There's no way a coach would survive there now, with that track record.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

Oregon and UK are essentially the same net worth and UK has more revenue. How are they a football power and we are not?

Who would rather go play on the left coast in the cold rain in Suicide Country rather than Horse Country?

We're not doing it right.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/19/college-sports-programs-valuations.html

17.	University of Oregon	$780M	$151M	Big Ten	Eugene, OR	public
18.	University of Arkansas	$776M	$167M	SEC	Fayetteville, AR	public
19.	University of Kentucky	$775M	$174M	SEC	Lexington, KY	public

Program valuation is a made-up thing. It's based on one guy's methodology that assumes all metrics used are equal across all programs.

Phil Knight alone could put Oregon at #1.

 

[gamecockcat]

They have the enormous booster who is a football fan worth $46B as someone above posted. We don't. I would guess a large percentage of our richest boosters are basketball fans. Big difference. I know UK's facilities are very nice but Oregon's are the Taj Mahal. Unbelievable. Plus, even before they started winning big consistently, they played a more interesting style of football, had the multiple jersey looks before anyone else, multiple helmets, etc. Big money made their program cool and they've capitalized on that. Didn't hurt that their rise coincided with USC's fall and now some of the really good CA HS players wind up in Eugene not in Los Angeles (USC's campus, IIRC, borders on some really sketchy areas of LA).

 

[hmt5000]

Program valuation is a made-up thing. It's based on one guy's methodology that assumes all metrics used are equal across all programs.

Phil Knight alone could put Oregon at #1.

Texas is #1. Their endowment fund is insane. I think only Harvard and Princeton have similar endowments.... But they'd be top 5 with Knight going all in.

 

[AshWilliams]

I absolutely love Lexington, but I think you're underselling the Northwest. If you haven't been out there, it's beautiful country. I'm a UK graduate, but Eugene would be a really cool place to go to school.

I have been out there. It rains constantly.

 

[AshWilliams]

Texas is #1. Their endowment fund is insane. I think only Harvard and Princeton have similar endowments.... But they'd be top 5 with Knight going all in.

So, endowment funds aren't included in revenue? Because UK has much more revenue.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

Texas is #1. Their endowment fund is insane. I think only Harvard and Princeton have similar endowments.... But they'd be top 5 with Knight going all in.

That's the entire University of Texas system that includes schools outside of UT-Austin, but Texas A&M and UT-Austin are still enormous on their own. I think the original article is talking only about athletic departments, so it wouldn't be inclusive of the overall endowment number.

Phil Knight could theoretically leave all of his money to the University of Oregon Athletic Department if he wanted to do so. I'm not aware of wealthier person that is as heavily invested in a single college sports program than he is. T. Boone Pickens was only worth about $3 billion at his peak, and Phil Knight is 10x that.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

So, endowment funds aren't included in revenue? Because UK has much more revenue.

Endowments specifically held for the athletic department would be, but not the entire university's endowment.

 

[bthaunert]

I lived in Eugene and worked at the University of Oregon for 8 years. It is beautiful out there and a beautiful campus, I would move back there in a heartbeat.

Oregon has been an “it” program since the mid 90’s. They sucked for years….didn’t make a bowl game for 23 years before making one in 1989. The uniforms started it, then the investment in the facilities, the unique marketing of the program, the up-tempo style and finally the financial investment.

They invested in football and were creative in the way the my did it.

 

[ManitouDan]

Oregon is a Ferrari , Ky is a Pacer .... in terms of cars . Ok ok Ky is a Ford F-150

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Nike and they dont play an sec schedule. Its really that simple.

Our fans, and others, completely under appreciate the grind if an sec schedule. Playing the biggest and best week in and out wears down your players and tests your depth. Other conferences dont have to deal with that.

 

[ManitouDan]

Nike and they dont play an sec schedule. Its really that simple.

Our fans, and others, completely under appreciate the grind if an sec schedule. Playing the biggest and best week in and out wears down your players and tests your depth. Other conferences dont have to deal with that.

I think today it's like that , 6-8 years ago not so much . Maybe I'm wrong , seems like the SEC has really gotten so much deeper the past 5 years . Better. overall coaches , players . We missed the boat not going a different direction than Stoops . We chose a work horse in a race horse league .