One thing holding Mitch back says Pilgrim
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TJ Otzelberger has a nice resume and is in his mid forties and making 15% of what Cal is making at Iowa State. Iowa State has made the biggest turn around in the country from last year to this year
Tommy Lloyd has been a head coach at Arizona for 3 years, he’s been a top 2 seed all 3 years, it was supposed to be a rebuild.
Someone else posted here there are rumors that Mitch has personal problems with Lloyd and doesn’t like him and therefore won’t consider him.
That’s a huge mistake Lloyd is the next Coach K.
Maybe we do a "walk off" retirement tour, like Coach K and Derek Jeter did.. At least this way the university can spend all year prepping for the next coach, as opposed to trying to do this over one single weekend.
Cal comes back, makes some changes, most of which don't matter.. keeps some of these guys, hopefully Reed. We have a good class (but some will decommit if we return guys IMO).. we at least go into next year with a capable roster. Cal will ultimately hold this team back, unless he really pulls his head out of his ass.
I don't love it, but it's probably the best chance we have to do anything. I do like the idea of keeping guys like Bradshaw, Edwards and even DJ for another year, to SEE if they can improve in the off season. And then, hold out hope that we can keep Reed.
AND, not a DARNED UK employee in leadership can write a contract. Whatever lawyer drew up Cal's (The one I read that someone posted on this site needs to finish grade school...)
Ah, the ole "we're a really mean fan base, so no one will want to coach here" argument.
It's the same emaciated, weak argument that Vitale made when BBN ran off Tubby Smith.
I have not seen this guy mentioned but I think he's a great coach. He's played fast and slow winning a ton of games either way. He did it with defense at Stephen F Austin and is now doing it with offense at Illinois. I want a coach willing to adapt yearly to the roster. I want a coach open minded enough to change his philosophy. I want a versatile coach a hungry coach. Not saying he's my first call that would be Hurley, Wright, Donovan and Stevens in that order but I think he's a better option than what we have and some being mentioned.
Unless Mitch gets a confirmation from Drew he’ll take it, then he’s not going to make the change. He completely missed on the Gillespie hire so if he doesn’t have a solid 100 from Drew then he can’t afford to mess it up again. He’s a free guy and whether we like it or not, that’s whom he’ll go after full throttle.
I told you all the Cal crew would be trying to talk people into getting on board on social media
If he took that bluetooth buzzer out of his butt, we'd all have the best weekend/week in YEARS.
The problem with this thinking is the new coach is going to want a massive contract no matter who it is. 5 years 40 million ish, so if you are giving that to your 5th, 6th option or so and it doesn't work out we would owe Cal whatever his is each year plus the new coach so we would be in an even worse spot.
with all this getting out for consumption by the general public, how does Cal even come back.
They want him gone, he wants to stay but they don't want him to coach, if he does get a chance to coach, its because they can't find anyone else who they think can make it to the second game of the NCAA tournament?
They want him gone, he wants to stay but they don't want him to coach, if he does get a chance to coach, its because they can't find anyone else who they think can make it to the second game of the NCAA tournament?
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Bruce Pearl, man.
Would do the job for peanuts and would make us very competitive at least at the in-SEC and Sweet Sixteenish levels we’ve had to watch from the outside looking in. Would also take a short-term contract with no buyout at least to start.
Mitch is gonna call Pearl dirty and write him off because he took some kids to a freaking barbecue? Not too much of a stretch to say Mitch himself embezzled at least $33 million from the university. Pot, meet kettle.
I’m not dying on the Pearl hill but I am saying, you can do that well in a heartbeat. Feel free to do better but don’t tell me there are no options.
Would do the job for peanuts and would make us very competitive at least at the in-SEC and Sweet Sixteenish levels we’ve had to watch from the outside looking in. Would also take a short-term contract with no buyout at least to start.
Mitch is gonna call Pearl dirty and write him off because he took some kids to a freaking barbecue? Not too much of a stretch to say Mitch himself embezzled at least $33 million from the university. Pot, meet kettle.
I’m not dying on the Pearl hill but I am saying, you can do that well in a heartbeat. Feel free to do better but don’t tell me there are no options.
Nowadays, it is just dumb to leave $3-5 mil a year to chase $6-7Mil in a complete pressure cooker. Used to be, a guy making $275k would get $2.2M or something ,and take the pressure. Complete lifestyle change , etc with the money
Oh yay, you're back to being a fake insider. I still remember when you told me Big O was too scared to drive his Porsche and then deleted the comment.
When has cal ever shown he will make changes? He never does make changes. Every player in the world could return and I still wouldn’t want cal next year. Bringing back cal next year is already conceding a seasons away that is damn near a year away from starting
Noted. I should hve listened. I though this fanbase and media would be smart enough to known its time to move on but I guess not
My point exactly, Mitch hopefully knows 99% of the fans want cal gone. How do you survive at Kentucky without the fans supporting the you? Simple answer is you don’t
If you meet a jerk in the morning, you probably met a jerk. If you meet jerks all day ...
18 million to buy him out. No chance UK can pay Cal, Otzelberger and his buyout. Also plays a style of ball we don't like at UK. I do think he's a great young coach though.
You people on here kill me, this isn't Monopoly money we're playing with. These donors and boosters will want a return on their investment. They don't want Mitch to hit them up for more buy out money in a few years if the next coach doesn't work out.
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You’d have to be on meth not to think Drew is an upgrade
Fire CAL get Pearl let’s roll for a few years. He would unite the fan base and try his best to win a title. Underwood at Illinois is interesting if Pearl has to much baggage
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Next year gonna be worse than the 9-16 team if we dont fire Cal
Yeah I’m team no Scott drew as well. I like Lloyd from Arizona but idk if he would leave
I'm apprehensive to post a positive about Cal, because some here have a freaking meltdown unless you group Cal with the worst people to ever walk the earth..
.. but he did make SOME changes last year, that most of this board really liked to see, and were almost in disbelief when he did them. The offense changes for examples. Even if those were Welch's doings, it was still Cal who knew he needed help here.
Do I think, hes going to fix all his problems, no. But maybe there's more things coming. And he has had talent like this in the past, and used it to stumble his way into Fainl 4's and championships games. Is Reed the type of player who could win games in spite of Cal trying to ruin it? I think it's possible.
Just trying to think of the few positives we have. It's not many.
Literally anything Baylor has ever won has been under Drew, and they have one big over the years. He is well respected as an x & O guy throughout the coaching community. Go to his Wikipedia and look at his time at Baylor, and remember he took over after a murder investigation, and even that nothing program was at a rock bottom
its not that Drew isn't an upgrade, its that he is so high profile that he isn't going to come here unless he's locked in with a huge contract, and no one is convinced he'll be a HR hire.
UK fans aren't going to tolerate him taking the team to a sweet 16 every other year while having the program not generating any excitement.
UK fans aren't going to tolerate him taking the team to a sweet 16 every other year while having the program not generating any excitement.
You sonuvabitch you stole my thunder! Curses!
Fair enough I can appreciate you wanting to have a positive outlook, but man it’s been 5 years of crap basketball and crap results, cal coming back is bad for everybody involved.
Right now we’re close to rock bottom. We don’t have a coach of any kind
