At first glance I like this idea. What say you?
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I mean… they could just go back to having limitations on transfers.
How many total senior scholarship players did Cal haveAm extra year of NIL would be enticing for a lot of players that won't be pros. However, it will limit coaches roster turnover needs.
Yeah...seems like a mess. It would not benefit the major programs and could add a logjam with the mid majors in a sport like basketball.How would that work"
One year, you have 4 players that get no playing time. Just not good enough. So they get an extra year. The next season, you have 4 players that get no playing time. They get an extra year.
The following season, you have a team full of players that aren't good enough.
They need to do away with this new landscape that seems to 1000% cater to every want or desire of the *ahem* “student athletes,” and restore some level of limitations and restrictions that protect the interests of the universities. These “students” CHOOSE to sign up for this gig, of their own volition. I don’t know why there can’t be some restrictions in place.Yeah...seems like a mess. It would not benefit the major programs and could add a logjam with the mid majors in a sport like basketball.
Football would be a nightmare. We have 37 freshman on scholarship this year between true freshman and redshirt freshman. Now, we know some of them will be redshirted and some will transfer, but you could have a handful of players or so that play sparingly and decide to stay because of the ability for a 5th year that take up scholarships with no impact on the field of play.
Why limit the kids when it’s the adults who are usually the problem?They need to do away with this new landscape that seems to 1000% cater to every want or desire of the *ahem* “student athletes,” and restore some level of limitations and restrictions that protect the interests of the universities. These “students” CHOOSE to sign up for this gig, of their own volition. I don’t know why there can’t be some restrictions in place.
They needn't have stayed. It's not that big of a bonus.So a player in a bad situation has an incentive to stay in that bad situation for 4 years…so he will be rewarded with a 5th year…in that bad situation?
A player in a bad situation has the option of leaving that bad situation, no questions asked. That wouldn’t change.So a player in a bad situation has an incentive to stay in that bad situation for 4 years…so he will be rewarded with a 5th year…in that bad situation?
That was too strict. But they didn’t just loosen the not, they completely untied it.I mean… they could just go back to having limitations on transfers.
You mean like baseball had for years. No ides why basketball didn’t also do that, they should have.Without reading the whole thread up to the point of my post, it wouldn't work because as much as (( I )) [no, that's not a naughty ascii drawing] want college sports to be about the college EDUCATION first (and play in exchange for the free education), the NBA has no regard for the college game. Has the NCAA ever approached the NBA about some sort of agreement like "2 years of college before being drafted, unless you come straight out of highschool"? If so, what was the NBA's response?
No thanks... you should get 4 years max and 1 redshirt if needed.
College game already has been trash due to these 6-7-8 year Covid players.
Yeap.You mean like baseball had for years. No ides why basketball didn’t also do that, they should have.
If he supports it, then it only provides more proof that he was concerned about one thing only at UK, how many draft picks he had, that's why he was here. Anywhere else, and he suddenly gives a shit about the college game.There has to be some irony in Cal being the advocate for this, right? Like, I can't possibly be the only person that thinks it?
Because schools, coaches, ADs, conferences, and media destroyed the amateur system in favor of chasing dollars, and created a billion dollar industry out of it while refusing to budge an inch on giving student athletes anything. The NCAA tried to pass the responsibility off on congress, who also didn't act. So it ended up in the courts, where the NCAA's position was indefensible under existing law, and the restrictions started being blasted away wholesale. The pursuit of ever increasing money and the NCAA's refusal to modernize and set reasonable rules and procedures led inevitably to what we have now.They need to do away with this new landscape that seems to 1000% cater to every want or desire of the *ahem* “student athletes,” and restore some level of limitations and restrictions that protect the interests of the universities. These “students” CHOOSE to sign up for this gig, of their own volition. I don’t know why there can’t be some restrictions in place.
Or rather, guys like Derek Willis and Dom Hawkins will be rewarded for staying around. If they're 7th or 8th men in the roster rotation, it makes sense. If they're perpetually the 10th or 11th man, not so much.So a player in a bad situation has an incentive to stay in that bad situation for 4 years…so he will be rewarded with a 5th year…in that bad situation?
How is it trash? If anything, the college game has been better the last few years in my eyes. When players stay around longer, you've got more better players. It's a better product.
No, they legally cannot. The courts have said that, that's exactly why we're where we are today. The courts said limitations on transfers are illegal.I mean… they could just go back to having limitations on transfers.
If limitations are illegal, then why are there limited transfer portal dates?No, they legally cannot. The courts have said that, that's exactly why we're where we are today. The courts said limitations on transfers are illegal.
Very interesting idea, I'm not sure how great it could be because most would go pro if good enough. I could see a lot of scenario where we got a guy like Liggins back a 5th year thay would really help. This year I could see Carr being very nice to have back, a guy like that.
Yeah, I get that it could be beneficial to some. My point was that players who end up in bad situations, and there are lots, would essentially be punished for seeking a way out.Or rather, guys like Derek Willis and Dom Hawkins will be rewarded for staying around. If they're 7th or 8th men in the roster rotation, it makes sense. If they're perpetually the 10th or 11th man, not so much.
A extra free year of school + NIL money could be a pretty big bonus for lots of guys.They needn't have stayed. It's not that big of a bonus.
Just depends on how you frame it. In practicality, this would change eligibility from 4 to 5 years, and penalize anyone who doesn’t “play ball” with their original school…for whatever reason.A player in a bad situation has the option of leaving that bad situation, no questions asked. That wouldn’t change.
What this would do is to offer an incentive to a kid who is maybe not getting the PT he wants or is homesick or whatever, to stick it out and give it some time. It rewards those who can withstand the impulsive urge of “when the going gets tough, the tough get going” and stay the course.
So a player in a bad situation has an incentive to stay in that bad situation for 4 years…so he will be rewarded with a 5th year…in that bad situation?
I dont know the nitty gritty of it, but transfer restrictions as they previously existed are illegal now.If limitations are illegal, then why are there limited transfer portal dates?
I don’t know either. I just look at it objectively and think there should be room for some restrictions to protect the interests of all parties. Clearly SOME restrictions are considered acceptable. What rules are the NCAA allowed to make, or not make? I’m not sure I understand at what point the government gets to dictate what rules are allowed.I dont know the nitty gritty of it, but transfer restrictions as they previously existed are illegal now.
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NCAA Permanently Ends Transfer Restrictions in Settlement with DOJ
This week, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) and the NCAA reached a settlement regarding student-athlete transfer restrictions. The DOJ and NCAA havwww.si.com