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Ok, I'm officially done enjoying Cals implosion.

Yeah, the thing is, basketball is a game. I wish Cal health and happiness, but I hope he loses every game he coaches from here on out, and the reason I hope that is because of how he treated the fans and the UK brand. Screw him -- as it relates to the game of basketball. He's richer than any human ever needs to be, so I am confident he will be just fine.
I hope he loses every game at Arkansas. IDK how I would feel if he went to a school that wasn't in the same conference and all that.
 
If and that's a big if. But say they finish 16-16. Because you know they are gone first game of the SECT.
Does Cal refuse to play in the NIT if they are selected? I don't think a 16-16 record guarantees a NIT bid. Lots of teams will win 20 and not make the NCAAT. Might not be a NIT bid for a .500 team this year.
 
I’m not. He ran our program into the ground. Thought he was bigger than UK.

There are 4 banners hanging in Rupp because of him, and someday, his name will be alongside them. But until that day, he can lie in the bed he made.
It really is a shame because the 2010–15 stretch was second only to the 1993-98 stretch in my life. But somewhere in there, the game left him behind, and he just lost his fire. You can’t lose the fire but not the ego.

I think once the sting of the last few years wears off, people will gravitate more towards the good than the bad in their minds. But like you said, until then it’ll be nice watching Arkansas suck until he hangs it up. Just a shame; he could have gone out on top.
 
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The bottom line is, Cal focuses on individual goals and accomplishments. If one of his draft picks is struggling, he's going to take however long it takes to get that kid to break through and he is not going to change.

That 'Justin Edwards', or 'BJB' is going to start over better players, because those HS rankings said they were better.

Cal's last 4 teams played completely like disconnected teams that just did their own things. Some teams put it together and looked like a great TEAM for one game here and there, but always went back to individualism.

You can't prioritize individualism and win in today's college basketball. Cal knows this, but he doesn't care.
 
He got his championship before he lost his passion and before the game passed him by too much. I'll always appreciate him for that. It's a shame he didn't get the 3 titles any good coach would have with those rosters

"To be fair".... Cow got his championship because AD, TJ and Co. were too good to lose (THEY refused to lose.). Cow even went to stall ball in that game but that team was not losing at that point. Few was correct, he just ran out of time due to that team, not Cow. Cow is on the banner and that is fine and great but he did less with more than any coach imaginable. Yep, FF's are great... Cow's passion had nothing to do with that Championship... Yes Cow assembled that team AND TJ came back because of the lockout, fill in the blanks...
 
Oh it's a no brainer. Look at the talent on Cal's 09-17 teams. Wall, Cuz, Knight, TJ, Lamb, Liggins, AD, MKG, Miller, Randle, Townes, Fox, Monk, Bam, Ulis, Murray, Twins, Young, Lyles, Poythress and on and on.

When you look at the talent Cal was getting during his decline, they aren't on the same scale. I mean, maybe Maxey, Dillingham and Sheppard, but he didn't use them correctly and in some cases, made them secondary players.

But Boston, Hagans, PJ, Richards, Edwards, Wheeler (LOL), Wagner, Sarr, Devin Askew etc… were never good enough to overcome Cal's coaching. He simply stopped getting the players he got in the early years.

But even still, his garbage dribble drive expired 10 years ago.
 
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It is kind of sad, but the man never truly understood what UK is all about. Which is mind boggling to me.
I don’t know about that. Go back on YouTube and watch his press conference when he took the job. He was just like Pope. He was saying all the right things. UK is the gold standard. Greatest fans.
He changed remarkably in 15 years.
That’s why I think this job has a 10 year shelf life.
 
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Cal refuses to learn his lesson. He won't listen to anyone and refuses to believe he is the issue.

The one thing UK had on the good side last year, was the offense. Cal actually allowed a guy to help with the offense and it was great.

But obviously Cal didn't appreciate it, because Welsh decided to go elsewhere and Cal didn't really seem to care. He obviously just wants to surround himself with Yes-men.

If I was Cal, I would have done everything in my power to keep John Welsh and find someone to help with defensive stuff, but no, he decided to be a dumbass, so he can wallow in his own pig slop. I don't feel sorry for him, because he still thinks it's not his fault.
You would think Cal could of just kept Welsh for offense and then hired a defensive guy, and then he could be even more lazy and just be a CEO/coach/cheerleader of the team. I believe they call those ambassadors, he could of been one of those...lol
 
Looking at their schedule, they most likely won't win more than 5 in SEC play. If so, thats a 16-15 record with most likely zero signature wins. I'll pick them against USC, Vandy, at home vs LSU, at home vs Texas and at home vs Mizz. Thats crazy bad.

The team and Cal will have packed it up by then and they won't be pulling off any big wins in the SECT.

If that happens a ton of anger will come down on Cal and even Ellen.

If I'm close Cal really needs to have had a talk with the AD about when he prefers Cal to report his retirement. If he continues, wow, it will be difficult to watch.
I think everyone should be concerned about cal. He has some cognitive decline. I hope he doesn’t have dementia from a stroke or something. His decision making has been strange for a while now
 
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You would think Cal could of just kept Welsh for offense and then hired a defensive guy, and then he could be even more lazy and just be a CEO/coach/cheerleader of the team. I believe they call those ambassadors, he could of been one of those...lol
A smart, regular coach would do those things, but Cal is too narcissistic for that. He does not want another strong personality in the chicken coop. Welsh is too intelligent and Cal couldn't have that.
Looking at the guys he has on his staff now, they're all yes-men that he can control and in Chin's case, he can bully him.
 
I think everyone should be concerned about cal. He has some cognitive decline. I hope he doesn’t have dementia from a stroke or something. His decision making has been strange for a while now
Yeah, I wouldn't wish dementia on anyone, let's hope that's not what's going on.
 
I liked Cal. Glad he isn't the coach anymore, but still like the guy. Hopefully our fans can show some appreciation when Ark comes to Rupp. Give him a round of applause..... then run his team off the court.
I hope he heads to ESPN and gets out of coaching. He loves to talk. He’s a good guy with a big heart but needs to call it quits on coaching and spend some time enjoying all the money he’s made and his family.
 
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That’s why I think this job has a 10 year shelf life.
Didn't he himself say this? If he retired after a decade it would have been one of the greatest stretches any coach has had. 10 years, seven Elite 8s, four Final Fours, two title game appearances, and a title. I know we all wished he won another title or two, but making the Elite 8 in 70% of your seasons at a school is an absurd statistic.
 
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Didn't he himself say this? If he retired after a decade it would have been one of the greatest stretches any coach has had. 10 years, seven Elite 8s, four Final Fours, two title game appearances, and a title. I know we all wished he won another title or two, but making the Elite 8 in 70% of your seasons at a school is an absurd statistic.

Cal was great the first 10 years, I absolutely loved that time, especially as someone that started being a fan in 99 (my freshman year at UK). I officially jumped off the bandwagon in Oscars 2nd year during the Michigan State Champions Classic when we were playing a wheeler and Ware two man game with Reeves on the bench - I stuck with him till as long as I could. I don’t know what happened - my guess is the post COVID older college game and the college game catching up to the NBA style with metrics and perimeter oriented offense. Either way he’s lost it and needs to hang it up. It’s getting sad tbh
 
I liked Cal. Glad he isn't the coach anymore, but still like the guy. Hopefully our fans can show some appreciation when Ark comes to Rupp. Give him a round of applause..... then run his team off the court.
Couldn’t stand Cal.
Making fun of fans (Bennies) that have been intelligently watching hoops for 50+ years.
Hoping he doesn’t win a single conference game.
0-18. Now that’d be some funny shit.
 
I hope he heads to ESPN and gets out of coaching. He loves to talk. He’s a good guy with a big heart but needs to call it quits on coaching and spend some time enjoying all the money he’s made and his family.
I have to ask. You mentioned he's a good guy with a big heart.

Are you under the impression that this is hurting Cal in some way, like he goes home and is like, depressed, or sulking over these failures?

I think those of you that are feeling sorry for this guy, need to keep in mind, he took every opportunity to mock UK fans when we dared ask why he was playing certain players over better players, or why not play a zone, or can we try a different offense?

He called us basketball bennies and mocked us, like we talk like mouth breathers.

He's not sulking, not in the least and if he was, that would mean he actually cared about winning, but he's getting out of this what he wants to get out of this.

Also, the guy makes between 7 and 9 million a year and the biggest point to make is, he can change the narrative. If it was bothering him, he is the one guy that could easily change his lineups, his offense, his defense and the tone of the team. But he refuses to do that, so obviously he's getting what he wants out of this.

Would he rather be winning? Sure, but it's obviously not a big enough deal to make him change anything.

It's just crazy to me that we have fans that are feeling sorry for this guy as he does things how he wants and collects millions doing it. Also after he ran our program into the ground and mocked us when we dared voice our opinions about it.
 
Didn't he himself say this? If he retired after a decade it would have been one of the greatest stretches any coach has had. 10 years, seven Elite 8s, four Final Fours, two title game appearances, and a title. I know we all wished he won another title or two, but making the Elite 8 in 70% of your seasons at a school is an absurd statistic.
If he wasn't so addicted to the fame he got from the stage UK provided, he would have been a great players agent, or G-League coach. That's how you help kids.
 
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I think those of you that are feeling sorry for this guy, need to keep in mind, he took every opportunity to mock UK fans when we dared ask why he was playing certain players over better players, or why not play a zone, or can we try a different offense?

He called us basketball bennies and mocked us, like we talk like mouth breathers.
THIS
He's not sulking, not in the least and if he was, that would mean he actually cared about winning, but he's getting out of this what he wants to get out of this.

Also, the guy makes between 7 and 9 million a year and the biggest point to make is, he can change the narrative. If it was bothering him, he is the one guy that could easily change his lineups, his offense, his defense and the tone of the team. But he refuses to do that, so obviously he's getting what he wants out of this.

Would he rather be winning? Sure, but it's obviously not a big enough deal to make him change anything.

It's just crazy to me that we have fans that are feeling sorry for this guy as he does things how he wants and collects millions doing it. Also after he ran our program into the ground and mocked us when we dared voice our opinions about it.
Yep.
 
Cal was great the first 10 years,
Cal's first 300 games as UK's coach, I think he went 248-52 and was 7 games ahead of Rupp at 300 (241-59). That was 2009-10 to 2016-17.

But at 400 games, I think Rupp was 331-69 and Cal was 324-76. Rupp was 14 games better from 301-400 than Cal (90-10 vs 76-24!!). I stopped keeping track after 2020.
 
No, people are not only enjoying, they are wishing and praying for it. I heard our fans everyday and just read the headlines of the post. SAD! The part of our fan base that I am ashamed of.
29 messages in 12 years, and you've spent a number of them defending Calipari in this thread. It says a lot about your intent.
 
If the man would just hire an offensive guru as asst coach to go along with his recruiting he would be just fine. Maybe not deep tournament run but the regular season wouldn’t be a complete disaster. But he’s so stubborn and determined to prove people he can do it with chin an KP. I wouldn’t let KP near the practice facility after his 2 years at Louisville.
 
Cal's first 300 games as UK's coach, I think he went 248-52 and was 7 games ahead of Rupp at 300 (241-59). That was 2009-10 to 2016-17.

But at 400 games, I think Rupp was 331-69 and Cal was 324-76. Rupp was 14 games better from 301-400 than Cal (90-10 vs 76-24!!). I stopped keeping track after 2020.


I remember getting into arguments in here all the time because I believed, and I still do, that 2017 with Fox and 2019 with and 2020 with Quickley were really good teams. I thought those teams were better than the 2011 Knight team for example. But we had some incredible luck in 2011 and 2014 tournament that equaled out those other two years I guess. IMO the 2020 team was Cals last really good team. 2022 and 2023 and last year were extremely talented but by then Cal had completely had the game pass him by.
 
Cal's biggest mistake is that he should have simply retired to the broadcast booth after the Oakland debacle and become an ambassador for the University. He did not need to hold UK to any type of buyout . He has more than enough money to live out his life (and plenty to pass on to his kids) and it is likely that he would have made at least 2-3 million/year from ESPN or CBS. When he took the job his opening speech alluded to the fact that he looked at it as a 10 year position but apparently he forgot about that in his last few years when the program started trending downward.
 
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Cal's biggest mistake is that he should have simply retired to the broadcast booth after the Oakland debacle and become an ambassador for the University. He did not need to hold UK to any type of buyout . He has more than enough money to live out his life (and plenty to pass on to his kids) and it is likely that he would have made at least 2-3 million/year from ESPN or CBS. When he took the job his opening speech alluded to the fact that he looked at it as a 10 year position but apparently he forgot about that in his last few years when the program started trending downward.
Even the richest man in the world isn't going to willingly turn his back on 30 million dollars, I know I sure wouldn't, but he easily could have worked out a buyout plan, or deal with UK and exited with some dignity, but nope, he had to press on.

Hey Cal, how's this working out for ya, buddy?
 
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