Official: SGA is Kentucky 1st M V P
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Murray is substantially better and more reliable than anybody on OKC. The All Stars mean nothing. It’s popularity and narrative based.
Joker has never accomplished anything without Murray. And that’s a simple fact.
Murray is a VERY hot or cold all star. Its true that hes pushed Denver through several times in playoff games, but he also has a tendency to disappear.
Joker and Serbia took team USA to the brink. You don't do that if you aren't one of the best players in the planet, which I think Joker is over these past few years.
And if you want point proof that OKCs roster is simply better than Denvers, look at the salary implications. Okc is full of rookie and 2nd stint deals. Michael Porter Jr makes 3x more than Chet and JW combined.. and he makes the same as SGA. Let that sink in. This iteration of Denver had its chance, but it has to retool now. They are too bogged down by salary.
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Lots of great things to be said about the season SGA has had. It has been awesome watching him. So many Kentucky players out there, I don't know which ones to love the most.
I've been behind him all season long now, and for Oklahoma too. My pick to win the title this year.
He comin thru! It's been super amazing. His game is the very definition of smooth.
All this great action is taking me back a few years with NBA action. It's been fun to watch.
I've been behind him all season long now, and for Oklahoma too. My pick to win the title this year.
He comin thru! It's been super amazing. His game is the very definition of smooth.
All this great action is taking me back a few years with NBA action. It's been fun to watch.
Denver's roster is top heavy. And that's a result of the players ages.
OKC's organization is better run from top to bottom. And they are currently cap friendly. But that will not be the case in the near future. Chet and J-Dubb have to re-up. They might not be able to keep both. SGA is due for an extension. This changes quickly, just like Denver was in a favorable situation a few years ago.
Top heavy and a few guys probably being over paid. Now that's not OKCs problem, nor is it SGAs. But it illustrates where each franchise is currently. OKC is taking advantage of its young players on cheap deals, where as Denver is past this and in a position where they have to probably make trades and move guys.
OKC will have a nice stretch where the salaries benefit them, as they get a lot of these players well before they will demand the top dollar. But those salary implications will come for them eventually, just like any other team. You won't always be able to have a Jaylin Williams for $2mil/year.
Denver might have a better big two.. but OKC is much deeper with talent, having a team full of guys who will probably go on to be legit 2nd or 3rd option guys on other teams.
Last two seasons I think it’s very fair to say joker gets one and shai gets one
To flip it around- to say joker deserved it both years over sga is also a very arguable stance.
To flip it around- to say joker deserved it both years over sga is also a very arguable stance.
They were without a major piece in Holmgren for a good chunk of the season too.
Shia beat Jokic in a head to head series just before it was awarded. He earned it on the court.
Happy for him as a Kentucky fan but, I really hate his game The Flop master don't touch me I'm glass
1 title blows my mind with all that talent is just so damn ridiculous!
BTW congratulations to UK’s only NBA MVP SGA!!!!
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I believe post season is not supposed to count. Which admittedly is pretty silly, to have these just be regular season awards. I think SGA was going to win regardless, even if Joker won the series.
He exploits the rules to his advantage. If it was so easy to do, why aren't other players able to do it?
If you can’t stand SGA so much for his flopping, I’d love to hear what you think about LeBron James or Jalen Brunson or ANY OTHER SCORER in the NBA over the past decade.
Where does SGA rank right now in the league?
Top 3? Top 5? To me, hes top 3. He’s in the same league as Jokic, Greek Freak, above Tatum, above Anthony Edwards. He’s better imo than Luka.
Other than Wemby I’d choose him over anyone to start a team with, mainly given his age and the position he plays.
Top 3? Top 5? To me, hes top 3. He’s in the same league as Jokic, Greek Freak, above Tatum, above Anthony Edwards. He’s better imo than Luka.
Other than Wemby I’d choose him over anyone to start a team with, mainly given his age and the position he plays.
He was second in the MVP voting last season. So he’s up there.
This season wasn’t a one off
Obvious others don’t agree but I love watching him play.
It’s crazy. His last three seasons have been unbelievable. And the two before those were really good. So 5 great seasons.
My fear was, when he was starting to get good, he was still on a bad team so I was worried he was just getting empty stats as he was the best player on the team. Now that he’s got 4-5 really good players around him, he’s still blowing up. The team is really well balanced with him leading the way. I love the thunders chances this year.
A friend of mine who’s an NBA scout told me at the beginning of that season that SGA would end up being the best player on the team, that season and in the pros.
Goes without saying but this isn't the post to bash on SGA. He should be celebrated for many reasons and being the 1st UK MVP is huge not only for himself but the Kentucky Brand.
*As SGA just banked in and And 1 late in the 3rd quarter* Pretty sure he just approved of this post.
*As SGA just banked in and And 1 late in the 3rd quarter* Pretty sure he just approved of this post.
I don’t think so, say he gets replaced with Kyrie Irving, and Jokic gets replaced with Bam or KAT. I think the Thunder are still way ahead depth and talent wise than Denver is. Jokic does so much for Denver overall that they drop quite a few notches without him IMHO to a play in level team in the West. It’s all speculation and they both are impossible to replace fully, I just think a guard in the NBA is easier to replace than a big man who gets 40/20 and averages a triple double. Look at the Thunder rating without Shai and Denver without Jokic.
Denver has no depth, its starting lineup is about as good as anyone but once you get past a fairly washed Westbrook who can’t shoot btw, they have nobody. Christian Braun is a good role player but he’s like about 60 other guys in the league.
Shai is amazing but look at this.
The Denver Nuggets have a significantly lower offensive rating when Nikola Jokic is off the court. Their offensive rating with Jokic on the floor is 125.8, while it drops to 86.3 without him.
This is an absurd level of drop off.
Meanwhile without Shai the Thunder have a noticeable drop but nowhere near Jokic level.
When MVP frontrunner Shai Gilgeous-Alexander leaves the court, the Oklahoma City Thunder post an offensive rating of 104.2. This is slightly worse than the Washington Wizards' 105.8 offensive rating— which ranks last in the NBA
