Official: SGA is Kentucky 1st M V P
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Tim MacMahon - "Gilgeous-Alexander led the league with 32.7 points per game on 51.9% shooting from the floor and also averaged 6.4 assists, 5.0 rebounds, 1.7 steals and 1.0 blocks. The only other player in NBA history to average at least 30 points on 50% shooting, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 1.5 steals and 1 block per game in a season is Michael Jordan, who did it in 1987-88 and 1990-91 -- the seasons that he won the first two of his five MVPs."
Id have still given the slightest of edges to Jokic, because I think he had to carry a bigger load, but im totally fine with SGA winning and its very well deserved. He beat Joker, and his team is 7 wins away from the title (I know post season play isnt a factor, which is silly).
Congrats to SGA!
Congrats to SGA!
Congrats to Shai! What an accomplishment, from 4 star to NBA MVP.
Of all the NBA Cats he was not the favorite for MVP, but that dude has improved more than anyone. He is a beast! Go SGA and go Cats!
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I question any Kentucky fan who suggested Shai didn’t deserve it over Jokic. Best player on the best team with mvp deserving numbers. No Jokic did not deserve the mvp. Otherwise he’d be mvp. Shai beat him heads up in the series in 7 games. Congratulations to the first Kentucky player ever to win NBA MVP!
And to think we thought sga would be around a few seasons. Who could have known at the beginning of his freshman season he was a oad.
MJ's Bulls won 72.
SGA's Thunder won 68.
Not bad for a 26-year-old playing without another all-time top 500 NBA player on his roster.
SGA's Thunder won 68.
Not bad for a 26-year-old playing without another all-time top 500 NBA player on his roster.
I mean Jokic is the most important player to a team and averaged a triple double. Kinda insane he didn’t win again being a 3X MVP already, both deserved it. SGA had a Jordan like season so I can’t argue against that as I think Jordan deserved about 2-3 more MVP’s.
How good would the thunder be without him though? They’d be a 8-9 seed imo
As a fan and an alum, happy for Shai. But to definitively say Jokic did not deserve the MVP is silly. He is only one of three players in NBA history to average a triple double in a season. Damn strong MVP resume.
Alhamdulillah!
Shai deserved it.
Might’ve even deserved it last year too.
Happy he got rewarded. Now it’s time to get another trophy. And then get paid.
Shai deserved it.
Might’ve even deserved it last year too.
Happy he got rewarded. Now it’s time to get another trophy. And then get paid.
I think objectively Jokic deserved it more. The Nuggets' splits when he's on vs. off the floor are a bit ridiculous. Without him on the floor they were statistically the second worst team in the league this year, ahead of only the Wizards.
And you can't say if Jokic deserved it more he would have won. It's a known thing that there's "voter fatigue" when it comes to the NBA MVP award where voters don't like giving it to the same player again and again. And Jokic had won it three of the last four years.
The two of them are probably 1A and 1B this year, but you can't just completely dismiss Jokic's case for MVP, especially considering how bad the Nuggets are without him.
If you go by team NET rating, as of like a month ago the Thunder were 2nd in the West without Shai on the floor and the Nuggets were the second worst team in the entire NBA without Jokic.
Calipari resume:
2 NBA MVPs
12 NBA All-Stars
53 McDonald's All-Americans
$3 + billion in career earnings for former players
1 title
2 NBA MVPs
12 NBA All-Stars
53 McDonald's All-Americans
$3 + billion in career earnings for former players
1 title
Nuggets finished 4th in their conference. Historically the MVP goes to the top player on the best regular season team.
No issue from me with Shai winning it. I say that as someone who thinks highly of Jokic.
No issue from me with Shai winning it. I say that as someone who thinks highly of Jokic.
There’s an 18 game difference in the standings between the 2.
Not to mention, one player defends and the other doesn’t.
Maybe Jokic can win the off court plus minus award.
I think they would be worse no doubt but they would replace him with a starting guard. They would still have the depth to be a top 5 team. Denver without Jokic would be a lottery team imo. Both are very deserving but Jokic means a little more overall I think.
MVP doesn't really mean Most Valuable Player and it hasn't for a long time. If that was truly the case Lebron should of nearly won it every season he was in the league.
The MVP is an award for the best player on the best regular season team. It really should just have a different name but MVP is cool to say.
The MVP is an award for the best player on the best regular season team. It really should just have a different name but MVP is cool to say.
As a rockets and Harden fan, I still knew that LeBron during those years was the "best player in the league".. essentially he had that title for most of his entire 20-year career. But the NBA gets voter fatigue and they like new players winning it.
It’s an impressive list of great players coached by Cal. Kentucky has produced the greatest list of current NBA alum in the history of the game.
I don’t think we will ever again see this many all-star type players from one school.
Cal should have won more.
Only 4 teams in NBA history have won more games in a single season than the SGA lead OKC Thunder.
SGA deserved the MVP.
SGA deserved the MVP.
And that was the biggest difference between the two. Eighteen game difference is a gigantic number. Had been somewhere around 64 to 57 I think more voters would have leaned more towards Jokic.
Congrats to SGA
Derrick Rose, who won as a 22 year-old and is still the youngest MVP in NBA history.
More proof that some posters on here are insufferable weirdos. One of our own wins the first NBA MVP in the schools storied basketball history and you’re on here debating whether he deserved it instead of being happy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some pride themselves on constantly "being objective" instead of just reading the room and putting down the contrarian smart guy pipe for a day.
Name the All Stars that Denver has. And I would argue that it isn’t a great roster. They’re ok being propped up by how Jokic makes everyone better.
SGA led his team to 68 wins, and the second-best player on the Thunder is nowhere even close to his level in talent (as good as Williams is and possibly will be).
Denver won 50 games, and got knocked out by the Thunder.
Surely actual wins make a difference in the voting, right? Not just "voter fatigue?"
That's true, OKC only has one other player who made an All-Star appearance, and he's not much better than a guy like Jamal Murray, who has made zero All-Star games.
And as of the day before this season started, how many of the NBA's fans were propping up Williams as the player he became this season for OKC? I don't recall anyone on this message board talking about what a beast of a supporting cast SGA had last season or even going into this season. All I heard was that it was so vital that OKC eventually trades some of their youth and picks to get SGA a "true second option." Also, if Jokic gets credit for "making everyone better," does SGA get the same level of credit? If not, why? OKC was dog crap before SGA became what he's become. Do people forget that part?
And technically, Westbrook is a former All-Star, but I get your point.
Well again, in regards to knocking the Nugget out, this award is not supposed to take the playoffs into account, at all (pretty sure. At least). I also think its pretty clear that SGA has a better team around him than Joker. Which is why I think you can make the argument that Joker was "still" the most valuable player in some regards, even if ever so slightly.
But I truly am not against SGA winning it. And his team did get to a very high mark of 68 wins and the #1 seed. Im certainly not going to die on a hill saying that SGA doesn't deserve this. Like 51/49.
They kind of don't though. The stats are out there. Without Jokic the Nuggets are the second worst team in the NBA in NET rating. Without Shai the Thunder are still the 2nd best in the west.
Dang you are right, it's just Jokic and Westbrook. I thought Murray and Gordon had made it before. However the Thunder only have 2 also and are full of random players, they are just younger. Chet and Porter are both gonna be All-Stars soon.
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