Of all the things about Donovan that give me pause

[Wonky]

And there are many (college game is different animal now, zero experience with NIL, zero players coming with him), the biggest thing is what would his sales pitch to recruits be?

Kids today weren’t alive when Billy won his titles. So it’s kind of hard to pitch that. What they will see is “this dude just coached in the NBA for years… he knows what it takes to get me there ASAP!”

I’m sorry but we just canned a guy for relying on that system until it ran our program into the ground. After the last decade I don’t want anything related to the NBA to be honest.

 

[Ugoff]

How about, 'I've coached in the NBA for years and I know what the NBA is looking for'.

 

[flacat22]

IF the kids today know him it as a mediocre at best NBA coach at that.

 

[The Snoke]

How about, 'I've coached in the NBA for years and I know what the NBA is looking for'.

That’s been the problem… NBA. Surely you think that shouldn’t be a UK sales pitch? That worked great for the past several years, right?

I agree with the OP. The NBA will come if the player is worthy. We all should have a plan but why do preach NBA when they are still in high school. Give them a dang year or two at least!

 

[Ugoff]

That’s been the problem… NBA. Surely you think that shouldn’t be a UK sales pitch? That worked great for the past several years, right?

I agree with the OP. The NBA will come if the player is worthy. We all should have a plan but why do preach NBA when they are still in high school. Give them a dang year or two at least!

Not talking about pushing a one and done factory, but let's face it, players want to go where they have the best chance to get to the next level. You and I would do the same.

 

[WeWant9]

“The Crafts got some good NIL deals for you.”

 

[UKWildcats1987]

And there are many (college game is different animal now, zero experience with NIL, zero players coming with him), the biggest thing is what would his sales pitch to recruits be?

Kids today weren’t alive when Billy won his titles. So it’s kind of hard to pitch that. What they will see is “this dude just coached in the NBA for years… he knows what it takes to get me there ASAP!”

I’m sorry but we just canned a guy for relying on that system until it ran our program into the ground. After the last decade I don’t want anything related to the NBA to be honest.

UK isn't winning a damn thing without some NBA caliber players. Donovan would do amazingly well here and give UK its only legit chance to win 2 national titles the next 10 seasons IMO.

 

[BigBlue1992]

That is true. One thing about it is Donovan coached in college when college basketball was a much better product and more popular than the NBA. In my opinion the players and coaches were better too. I’m rolling with him all day and twice on Sunday.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Goodman said that with Donovan he is the type that will focus on his job till season ends, so that would be 7-10 days. Then he said Donovan is the type that would call 100 people getting their advise, so it would probably be at least a couple of weeks if you wait.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Goodman said that with Donovan he is the type that will focus on his job till season ends, so that would be 7-10 days. Then he said Donovan is the type that would call 100 people getting their advise, so it would probably be at least a couple of weeks if you wait.

It can’t be a couple of weeks. They need a answer rather quickly

 

[Bhad Rhabies]

It can’t be a couple of weeks. They need a answer rather quickly

Tommy Lloyd is the answer 88-20 record in 3 seasons at Zona.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Tommy Lloyd is the answer 88-20 record in 3 seasons at Zona.

If Barnhart isn’t paying 18 mill, then he isn’t 17mill for Lloyd

 

[catsfan325]

Don't think it matters if they remember Joakim Noah, Al Horford etc and I don't even think Billy D has to rely on previous success to recruit tbh. He was always a good recruiter even before the titles. Give him top assistants and top NIL and he'll be able to close. And if recruits still need recent history - tell them SGA was averaging 10 points a game until Donovan coached him. Coached Westbrook during his MVP season. Developed Bradley Beal in college. Has coached KD, Chris Paul, and Paul George - who all had good seasons under him.

 

[sosoblue]

Tommy Lloyd is the answer 88-20 record in 3 seasons at Zona.

Pac 10 is a weak conference that's one of the reasons why he has struggled in the big dance. But maybe he woukd kill it here who knows...

 

[Runnin'Ramel]

And there are many (college game is different animal now, zero experience with NIL, zero players coming with him), the biggest thing is what would his sales pitch to recruits be?

Kids today weren’t alive when Billy won his titles. So it’s kind of hard to pitch that. What they will see is “this dude just coached in the NBA for years… he knows what it takes to get me there ASAP!”

I’m sorry but we just canned a guy for relying on that system until it ran our program into the ground. After the last decade I don’t want anything related to the NBA to be honest.

Well, you've got recruits choosing IU because of Woodson's NBA connections .... or so they say .... I think Donovan would do just fine in that regard.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Tommy Lloyd is the answer 88-20 record in 3 seasons at Zona.

Has been awful in ncaa tourney, albeit it in a small sample size.

 

[catlogic15]

IF the kids today know him it as a mediocre at best NBA coach at that.

Well Cal was a complete failure in the NBA but it hasn’t stopped him from successfully using it to sell players.

 

[catlogic15]

IF the kids today know him it as a mediocre at best NBA coach at that.

Well Cal was a complete failure in the NBA but it didn’t stop him from selling recruits on getting there.

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Pitino flopped in the NBA but Jamal Mashburn only came to Kentucky because he wanted to play for the Knicks coach. I think Donovan would be a slam dunk hire. His first season might be tough. After that I thnk he will recruit really well also I think he will hire people that understand the transfer portal and NIL and handle that just fine.

 

[The Snoke]

Not talking about pushing a one and done factory, but let's face it, players want to go where they have the best chance to get to the next level. You and I would do the same.

Sure, I would as a player. I sure don’t need a coach for UK to push one and done, ever again! Hell, that’s why we are discussing this. Let’s get someone who values the Jersey first.

If you, the player, are good enough, play as a team, be a player/servant… the best is yet to come. If you play for UK, you are already ahead of the rest by proxy. That’s the kind of coach I think most of us would appreciate.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

It can’t be a couple of weeks. They need a answer rather quickly

He said there are only a couple of pro's in the portal. I don't know why they can't do what they did with Hurley's people. Let his people get all the info and at least see if he has any interest at all.

 

[howitis]

its hilarious that guys think college basketball is followed by high schoolers. Nba is way more popular and they are only going to college at all becasue they have too. they know about billy d more than any college coach.

 

[The Grubbsfather]

Goodman said that with Donovan he is the type that will focus on his job till season ends, so that would be 7-10 days. Then he said Donovan is the type that would call 100 people getting their advise, so it would probably be at least a couple of weeks if you wait.

Aka Goodman is scared Donovan to Kentucky is a reality and doesn’t want it to happen 😂😂🤪

 

[Bhad Rhabies]

If Barnhart isn’t paying 18 mill, then he isn’t 17mill for Lloyd

Oats also put out a statement that he wasn’t interested in the UK job. Barnhart would pay a buyout, buyout + public statement = no Oats

 

[Bhad Rhabies]

its hilarious that guys think college basketball is followed by high schoolers. Nba is way more popular and they are only going to college at all becasue they have too. they know about billy d more than any college coach.

Yeah for god sake Mike Woodson got a recruiting boost from being “an NBA guy”

Billie Donovan for damn sure will have the respect of recruits being a national champion and a long time head NBA coach.

 

[CincinnatiWildcat]

Not talking about pushing a one and done factory, but let's face it, players want to go where they have the best chance to get to the next level. You and I would do the same.

Next thing I know you are gonna be telling me Students go to college to get a job in what they studied, crazy.

 

[know1]

Goodman said that with Donovan he is the type that will focus on his job till season ends, so that would be 7-10 days. Then he said Donovan is the type that would call 100 people getting their advise, so it would probably be at least a couple of weeks if you wait.

He's also the kind who has backed out of jobs he already agreed to as well.