Odds on the first coach that gets fired

[truebluewildcat]

I agree with this. Unless you know for a fact you have your guy lined up, maybe even signed, it's a big risk to get rid of a coach. Just look around the SEC at teams who have hired short lived coaches. I am not 100% on this but wasn't MSST's coach there for 1 year? AU got rid of 1 about 1 and a half season in. Even a successful coach from somewhere else might not have the success expected when jumping in the SEC.

You're right about jumping to the SEC and I'll even say the BIGPAC now as that conference is loaded with top programs and coaching. I hate to say it, but some of the best most entertaining football will be the new match ups coming from that merger. USC, Oregon, Wash, UCLA, Penn, Mich, OSU. They may even win the ratings battle thanks to the PNW and Coastal markets. But I digress, market demographics/ratings are another discussion for another thread and time.

If you are a coach who's hot to trot, making a name, rising up some call lists, you're probably seriously looking at B12, ACC. Money and resources are just as good. Exposure via endless sports TV/streaming/media is good, road to play offs easier, not quite the overall pressure cooker.

Go to the SEC or BIGPAC...get fired or just get lost down the depth chart of talented programs and coaches or go to one of the other conferences, make just as much money, have just as many resources, as much exposure, and sniff playoffs?

That's why it'll be hard to hire. The up and commers in the ACC and B12 that SEC and B10 could poach at will in eras past...they're going to stay put.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

You're right about jumping to the SEC and I'll even say the BIGPAC now as that conference is loaded with top programs and coaching. I hate to say it, but some of the best most entertaining football will be the new match ups coming from that merger. USC, Oregon, Wash, UCLA, Penn, Mich, OSU. They may even win the ratings battle thanks to the PNW and Coastal markets. But I digress, market demographics/ratings are another discussion for another thread and time.

If you are a coach who's hot to trot, making a name, rising up some call lists, you're probably seriously looking at B12, ACC. Money and resources are just as good. Exposure via endless sports TV/streaming/media is good, road to play offs easier, not quite the overall pressure cooker.

Go to the SEC or BIGPAC...get fired or just get lost down the depth chart of talented programs and coaches or go to one of the other conferences, make just as much money, have just as many resources, as much exposure, and sniff playoffs?

That's why it'll be hard to hire. The up and commers in the ACC and B12 that SEC and B10 could poach at will in eras past...they're going to stay put.

Can't disagree with any of that, but 4-5 years down the road I think the gap between the Big2 conferences payouts and the other 2 P4 programs is going to get to a point that the ACC and Big12 won't be able to match what the Big2 are paying and will lead to the top coaches in the smaller 2 conferences jumping ship. But the other side of that is, 10m is alot, is it worth another 5-7m to jump to the big leagues. But right now, I am not sure there is an ACC coach anyone would want to grab, Big 12 or 20 or whatever it is, has 3-4 that would get some interest.

 

[gobigblue812]

Dieon isn't getting fired. He's the ONLY reason anyone even mentions the word Colorado. Cristobal and Dabo aren't getting fired either, unless big scandals pop up at those schools.


Napier? He's prob getting canned mid-season if the losses pile up.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Dieon isn't getting fired. He's the ONLY reason anyone even mentions the word Colorado. Cristobal and Dabo aren't getting fired either, unless big scandals pop up at those schools.


Napier? He's prob getting canned mid-season if the losses pile up.

You probably right on all 3. I think Pittman is right there with Napier and Dabo is the safest of the group

 

[Lost In FL]

Don't know if you can read their site or not, but the are counting UK as a win already. I read that and scratch my head and think UK has physically beat UF's brains in 5 of last 6 years and on a 2 game streak, how is that an automatic win? But they have some insiders constantly reporting how great they are looking and 10 wins is a sure thing. BUT Billy loses all support if they lose the opener to Miami, they are expecting to win that one by 20.

In case others haven't chimed in ... but UK is on a THREE game streak! And 4 of the last 6!

EDIT: i forgot ... UF was ranked in all 6 of those games and UK was only ranked once of the 6.

Everything else is spot on.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

In case others haven't chimed in ... but UK is on a THREE game streak! And 4 of the last 6!

EDIT: i forgot ... UF was ranked in all 6 of those games and UK was only ranked once of the 6.

Everything else is spot on.

I wasn't sure what the streak was, just that UK has outplayed every year other than maybe the track year for the last 7-8 years and some odd things cost 2-3 wins.

 

[rick64]

I'd say odds on Napier went up today.

 

[truebluewildcat]

I'd say odds on Napier went up today.

Will be interesting situation to watch.

Not totally fantastical to think Florida could rip off a few wins. Samford, Texas AM, Miss St, and UCF. We'll see how Aggies look tonight, but Gators could be 4-1 heading into UT.

Not sure about the Mertz situation, an injury is unfortunate, but I think it was inevitable that Lagway was going to get some run. If he plays next week v Samford, he'll probably look pretty good and help the Gators hang 45 or so.

He may be Napier's best shot at treading just above water and keeping his job for another season. If they do keep afloat, he may get one more year just because it would make more sense for boosters to spend millions surrounding Lagway with talent than to spend multi-millions to pay Napier to leave, end up as a coordinator at a contender and take Lagway with him. Something I think we will start to see going forward. Boosters/athletic departments deciding to pay buyouts, or just keep the guy and pay for better players because of the leverage of some coaches having with their recruits and possibly leaving town with them.

 

[dvillecatfan]

Napier like prime Tiger Woods...him or the field.

 

[_ukcat]

Napier be gone first

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Napier. Florida's schedule is ridiculously hard. He needed the win today to to give himself any shot and surviving the season.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Napier. Florida's schedule is ridiculously hard. He needed the win today to to give himself any shot and surviving the season.

Agree, Billy is a good guy, maybe the most likeable head coach in the conference, but that isn't why he was hired.

 

[Cat_Man_Blue]

I went over to the UF board to see how they were handling the loss. The reaction to Napier was exactly what you would expect. The fans want Kiffen. I think Kiffen would take the job and immediately turn UF around and put UF back in the top 4 of the SEC.

 

[trueblujr2]

I think both Napier and Beamer names are solidly at the top of the list now.

Question. I know aTm revolted against hiring Stoops, but would Florida? Especially if we beat them a fifth time in the last seven years. That has to draw some respect from Florida fans, right?

 

[Cat_Man_Blue]

I think both Napier and Beamer names are solidly at the top of the list now.

Question. I know aTm revolted against hiring Stoops, but would Florida? Especially if we beat them a fifth time in the last seven years. That has to draw some respect from Florida fans, right?

While Stoops would be solidat UF, they are going to want a splash hire.

 

[WildcatofNati2]

While Stoops would be solidat UF, they are going to want a splash hire.

True, but they not get one. They'll probably target Meyer or Kiffin first. If they can't get either, Stoops could be a target, although I'm not even sure he'd be interested. Florida apparently is having real issues with NIL. They might also go after Fisch, who has ties there.

 

[bbncal02]

True, but they not get one. They'll probably target Meyer or Kiffin first. If they can't get either, Stoops could be a target, although I'm not even sure he'd be interested. Florida apparently is having real issues with NIL. They might also go after Fisch, who has ties there.

Meyer? Man I'll lose what little respect I have for them if they go after that lying sleezebag. I'm not sure their fans would like it either. He left there claiming health issues and then turns up at OSU....does the same thing when it gest rough......then turns up at the Jags. With a woman not his wife on his lap.

No one who values their soul should have anything to do with the man.

 

[gojvc]

Florida apparently is having real issues with NIL.

Well if they don’t fix that it doesn’t matter who their coach is.

 

[hmt5000]

The good thing about being UK is that losing to us is a death nail for coaches on the hot seat. We could get 2 coaches fired and might put one on the hot seat.... Kiffin to UF is picking up steam online so week 3 could be wild.

 

[Cat_Man_Blue]

The good thing about being UK is that losing to us is a death nail for coaches on the hot seat. We could get 2 coaches fired and might put one on the hot seat.... Kiffin to UF is picking up steam online so week 3 could be wild.

I think Kiffen at UF would kill it, so I hope that doesn't happen.

 

[maroon79]

Yeah. It’s about time for Kiffin to move on

He never lasts anywhere very long

 

[hmt5000]

Yeah. It’s about time for Kiffin to move on

He never lasts anywhere very long

Joey Freshwater works so much better in Florida than Mississippi.

 

[rick64]

LSU fans want Kelly added to the list. 😂

 

[Gators1853]

Dieon isn't getting fired. He's the ONLY reason anyone even mentions the word Colorado. Cristobal and Dabo aren't getting fired either, unless big scandals pop up at those schools.


Napier? He's prob getting canned mid-season if the losses pile up.

If Coach Napier makes it to October 19th, I will be surprised. He is one of the finest gentlemen in coaching but there is too much invested in Florida football to keep him as head coach. Florida is on a 6 game losing streak. The loss Saturday was an embarrassment and ranks as one of the worst in the past 50 years. We are back to the Will Muschamp and Jim McElwain regimes.

I hate it came to this because Billy Napier is a decent person and a good man. But this is college football in the SEC.

 

[Gators1853]

I think Kiffen at UF would kill it, so I hope that doesn't happen.

Kiffen's name is mentioned more than any other as choice of next coach.

 

[truebluewildcat]

Chip Kelly could very well hang some hardware in Columbus or at least be in the picture near the end of the season. He will inevitably be on a lot of call lists.

I know he left a good HC gig because he didn’t like all the new era stuff. UF will spend on football, ucla for whatever reason does not even though they’re probably one of the richest schools/alumni bases.

Gators would give him all the resources and staff he wants to keep up with portal and NIL.

Kiffen seems to have found his spot. Ole Miss will spend and give him everything. Also, he’s the big dog. I think part of the reason he didn’t last other places is because they were all big brand destinations with big egos. Oxford is a quiet little town without a lot of rings to kiss. Big balls and a little quirkiness works there. They love it.

Oregon OC is another name. Still young though not sure if he’s ready for that.

Will be interesting to watch coaching carousels in the new age. Are we going to see guys stay put or even move down to coordinator or assistant gigs? Are we going to see big money spending programs struggle to get the guys at the top of their list?

Deboer wasn’t Bama’s first choice, and the only reason our BBall team got a guy from Utah Valley state after being poo pooed by multiple coaches, was because he played here.

Aggies, not an elite destination school but willing to spend like one apparently could only attract the Duke and UK football coaches.

 

[hmt5000]

I know some UF fans and was trying to explain how we had more NFL talent than they did but they just kept bringing up HS rankings and saying they had wayyyy more talent. If Billy doesn't win this year they will fire him before he gets back to his house.

Beamer needs to be higher. Him beating us last year is what saved his job. If we beat him they probably see who they can get to replace him and if they think they have a replacement he'd of been gone last year.

Bump for both... Billy is gone and Beamer probably kept his name off the list by whipping us bad.

 

[rick64]

Is Kiffin on speed dial for the FL AD? 😂

 

[Gators1853]

Is Kiffin on speed dial for the FL AD? 😂

Kiffin certainly is our fans choice. The Big Money folks are meeting today and speculation is running wild as to whether or not Billy will be the coach when the sun rises tomorrow. I am not convinced he will be fired as soon as my friends are saying but I would not bet a dime he will be around much longer. You could hear the boos coming out of Gainesville yesterday all the way to Tallahassee and Coral Gables.

Napier's buyout is only $26 million and word is the money has already been raised to make him an unemployed multi-millionaire. Money is not an issue in Florida.

 

[MrHotDice]

I think both Napier and Beamer names are solidly at the top of the list now.

Question. I know aTm revolted against hiring Stoops, but would Florida? Especially if we beat them a fifth time in the last seven years. That has to draw some respect from Florida fans, right?

No, Florida fans hate FSU hate Miami, and everyone in the SEC.

 

[bthaunert]

Chip Kelly could very well hang some hardware in Columbus or at least be in the picture near the end of the season. He will inevitably be on a lot of call lists.

I know he left a good HC gig because he didn’t like all the new era stuff. UF will spend on football, ucla for whatever reason does not even though they’re probably one of the richest schools/alumni bases.

Gators would give him all the resources and staff he wants to keep up with portal and NIL.

Kiffen seems to have found his spot. Ole Miss will spend and give him everything. Also, he’s the big dog. I think part of the reason he didn’t last other places is because they were all big brand destinations with big egos. Oxford is a quiet little town without a lot of rings to kiss. Big balls and a little quirkiness works there. They love it.

Oregon OC is another name. Still young though not sure if he’s ready for that.

Will be interesting to watch coaching carousels in the new age. Are we going to see guys stay put or even move down to coordinator or assistant gigs? Are we going to see big money spending programs struggle to get the guys at the top of their list?

Deboer wasn’t Bama’s first choice, and the only reason our BBall team got a guy from Utah Valley state after being poo pooed by multiple coaches, was because he played here.

Aggies, not an elite destination school but willing to spend like one apparently could only attract the Duke and UK football coaches.

Chip Kelly lost his mojo a little while back. He’s no longer the guy he was at Oregon. He finished 10th, 4th, 8th, 3rd, 5th and 7th in the PAC. His days as a head coach at a major program are numbered imo.

They will be all in on Kiffin and I think he will turn them down.

It’s amazing how bad Florida AD’s are at hiring football coaches. Since Urban, they have gone through Will Muschamp, Jim McElwain, Dan Mullen and Billy Napier. Maybe the 5th time will be a charm.