Then who is your pick? You can’t just complain about other peoples suggestions without offering an option yourself?
Not impressed with Scott Drew
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I like Drew but the Sunday School joke is funny. And I attend church regularly. 😅
I agree. But, we’ll have people on this very board calling for the new coach’s head after the first loss in his first season.
He will be expected to reach the FF immediately, just like any other coach we’ve had since Rupp. Mitch Barnhart hiring the next coach scares me the most.
You cannot leave Lloyd off that list . He is probably the best “getable” candidate.
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-At 37, Pitino had the Knicks in the conference semifinals the season before he became the coach at UK and a Final Four two years prior.
-At 46, Tubby had only coached for 6 seasons, but already had 3 Sweet 16s under his belt.
-At 50, Calipari already had two Sweet 16s, 3 Elite Eights, a Final Four, and a Runner-up.
Neither Nate Oats, Chris Beard, or Bruce Pearl will ever be the head coach at the University of Kentucky. Mitch Barnhart would never allow that. Honestly, I doubt whoever the next AD is would hire them. Those guys carry too much baggage. I realize that there were questions about Calipari’s past, but not like that of the previous guys mentioned.
-At 46, Tubby had only coached for 6 seasons, but already had 3 Sweet 16s under his belt.
-At 50, Calipari already had two Sweet 16s, 3 Elite Eights, a Final Four, and a Runner-up.
Neither Nate Oats, Chris Beard, or Bruce Pearl will ever be the head coach at the University of Kentucky. Mitch Barnhart would never allow that. Honestly, I doubt whoever the next AD is would hire them. Those guys carry too much baggage. I realize that there were questions about Calipari’s past, but not like that of the previous guys mentioned.
I'd probably go up and coming who's shown promise and production doing more with less...plucking Golden from the gators would piss them off.
You could also go interim and groom an internal candidate like a Dwane Casey-Tyler Ulis scenario for instance.
At least it won't be Brey or Holtman...
He wouldn’t be my first choice, but if it meant we were getting rid of Calipari, I’D LOVE HIM !
We'd be trading one old dude stick in the mud for another...this program needs to be reinvigorated not stagnated...
No offense but the fan base would hate any of those hires.
The last time Dwayne Casey was on a college bench was 35 years ago. The only coaching experience Ulis has is as a graduate assistant. Also, do you honestly want another guy from Cal's coaching tree?
Agree. Not sure why I left him off. Must have slipped my mind.
Just using it as for instance an example...could be any number of young candidates.
On the other hand, Ulis could hardly be a worse bench coach than Cal...
Point is game has changed and we need to evolve with it.
Yes but he’s been there 22 years and like someone said earlier he’s headed for his 16th double digit loss season. And he’s only won the B12 maybe once. Regular seasons count too especially at UK, where we’ve dominated the SEC historically.
They don't....Or at least the OP doesn't. It was absolutely awful. And its not like its ever been good, tbh.
They have 15 NCAAT appearances....Scott Drew is responsible for 11 of those. Look, from 2003-2007 Baylor won a total of 36 games. Not conference games----TOTAL GAMES period.
What he has done at BU is crazy ass, good. And he would do really well at Kentucky.
At Baylor, man. Its not a basketball school. And winning the B12 is extremely tough---I mean there is that Kansas team.
The SEC has gotten stronger----but its not the B12. Not historically. And certainly not of late.
Dude can coach
And FTR, Cal is on his way to his 11th double digit loss season---6 being at UK.
I want Cal gone today. But I'm honestly not overly impressed with any coaches anymore.
Yep, why people don't grasp this concept is beyond me. Crapping on a proven champion here, you come to UK to also further succeed in your career being at a bigger basketball school. A coach who has the ideal situation like Hurley in UConn and Self with Kansas winning 2 titles already will not come here.
---Hell, at this point let's go with AI...![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
Unfortunately, if Google was involved, AI would refuse to win because it would be racist.
He's won it twice and the big 12 is tougher than the sec over the same time period depth wise.
People bring up Oats and Lloyd, who have won not a damn thing n the ncaa tournament but want to dismiss Drew. It's comical.
Take Kansas (one of the greatest programs of all time, coached by one of the greatest coaches of all time) out of the B12 and it would probably be a different story for Baylor.
He wouldn’t be a terrible hire. I still think you gauge the interest of the best options available and some that aren’t before him though.
That's fine, but I'd still rather have Oats. The amount of elite coaches coming up are minimal at best, so you better do your research.
Has Scott Drew given any indication before that he is looking to leave Baylor? I like Drew as a potential replacement but don't seem to recall ever hearing about him interviewing for other coaching vacancies in the past. It is Kentucky and for the right price I'm sure Drew would listen if the job opens up though I think he retires at Baylor.
I’m impressed that he was able to make Baylor relèvent in basketball and even more impressed he was able to win a title there.
but outside of a 3 year stretch from 2020-2022 they’ve only been good and not great.
That said, it’s also worth noting both of his E8 teams lost to the eventual champions and a lot of people thought they got jobbed against that Duke team in 2010.
I think Drew is a lock to consistently keep his team in the top 25. But he really doesn’t have anything left to prove. And he doesn’t seem to have the same fire as a guy like Hurley.
Can’t just settle on a guy thats proven but not also still hungry.
but outside of a 3 year stretch from 2020-2022 they’ve only been good and not great.
That said, it’s also worth noting both of his E8 teams lost to the eventual champions and a lot of people thought they got jobbed against that Duke team in 2010.
I think Drew is a lock to consistently keep his team in the top 25. But he really doesn’t have anything left to prove. And he doesn’t seem to have the same fire as a guy like Hurley.
Can’t just settle on a guy thats proven but not also still hungry.
I would think any coach especially a proven winner that has the gumption to take the jump to a blueblood like Kentucky isn't lacking fire. A coach mailing it in would likely just stay put at their current school. Someone like Hurley has the ideal spot already, he isn't leaving UConn but finding a guy like him with his fire to make Kentucky their destination job would be great.
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I feel like people use that excuse for 3 decades of mid level basketball. It's been 22 seasons now, maybe more
The excuse of saying he's at Baylor is wild. Do people feel he would have a better chance recruiting or what? He constantly gets recruits that he's after so what is gonna make him better here vs at Baylor. Everyone is upset at our tournament runs the past 3 seasons.... Well how bout every season except 2 for 20 years.
Oats has only been a HC for 9 years and only his 5th at a football school. Lloyd is only in his 3rd year. Drew has a big enough sample size to know what you're getting. Do we think these 18 year old recruits care if Baylor was down 22 years ago? No. They're a solid basketball program now and Drew has way too many double digit loss seasons to show for it.
exactly, people say Drew is a "safe" hire but I don't think it's safe at all... seems like just as risky to assume he will perform better at UK. Better than his 4 or 5 good seasons out of 20 ish at baylor.. Heck, we have lost recruits to Baylor even while Cal was here so it's not like Drew wasn't getting 5 start players either.
IUtrollster and other fans of rivals I'm sure want us to hire Drew when Cal is gone
I think Cal is here till 2028 and all this talk doesn't matter because surely we don't hire Drew then anyway.
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