Were any of McCants' classes on his transcript identified as Type A classes by Martin, or fraudulent by Wainstein?
I ran across this article on the subject:
http://www.tarheelblog.com/2014/6/7/5788400/willingham-leaks-afam-grades-of-2005-title-team
Data she provided to The News & Observer show that five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 38 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met. The data also show that the five athletes accounted for 13 enrollments that were accurately identified as independent studies.
Those classes are also suspect because for much of the last decade, the department offered far more independent studies than it could properly supervise, previous reviews have shown.
I find it completely hysterical that bobby wants to argue vehemently that the classes weren't fraudulent. ONLY at UNC can a lecture class never meet and be a legit class for credit.
Bobbi is not discussing in good faith any longer. Kinda what you'd expect from a lawyer that got their education in the penitentiary in preparation for a barrage of frivolous law suits. The only proof he accepts is from his source, using exactly his words in response to exactly his questions. In my line of work, that fails to constitute anything resembling peer review. Such an approach would be dismissed as intentionally misleading and fraudulent. Two words which describe Bobbi Perv pretty accurately I think. I find he no longer merits even the slightest respect.
JPScott, what is your prediction of what will happen to UNC?
Media sensationalizing? There's been more written and reported about Louisville in 2 weeks than North Carolina in 23 years,A few Duke fans are starting to turn on Bilas over his relentless shilling for UNCheat. I read the thread on it at their rivals board, and they show a few tweets from this guy named Bradley Bethel who praises Bilas for his comments about this issue. Bethel actually quit his job to make a documentary about how the media is sensationalizing and lying about this scandal. Wow.
Ka-ching!!!http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/us/ncaa-academic-fraud/
The above article gives one of my reason why I think UNC and UL get off easy.
From what I am reading, I think Bradley Bethel's documentary is dead in the water unless he wants to make a complete idiot of himself. Oh well, he has already done that so I guess doing it again is no big deal.
"A 2008 email from an assistant dean in the academic advising program warned that the university could no longer code students as full-time if they were enrolled in fewer than 12 hours of courses.
"We have recently learned that this can no longer happen because it 'violates the law' in some way," the assistant dean wrote. "Our office will need to know from you what procedure to follow in January for student-athletes who may be affected by this new policy."
Read more at http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc-re...mic-fraud-probe/15004225/#43WBaaugRRs6cOGC.99
Interesting to know what they refer to as "violates the law in some way" and for how long it had been going on?
Either they're talking about NCAA regulations regarding the requirement for a minimum number of credits a player must be taking during a semester, or more ominously for the school they're talking about classification of students as full-time for the purpose of Pell Grants. (or maybe something else?)
Either way it could prove to be a huge issue for the school, assuming someone investigates it properly.
As for Bethel and his documentary, it will be interesting to see who he interviews from UNC and cross-reference that against the literally millions of documents which are being released as part of the Wainstein investigation, to see what these people were actually up to as opposed to what they might claim in the documentary.
"It's self-policing, and investigations only go as far as the universities want them to."Ka-ching!!!
Rack it.Media sensationalizing? There's been more written and reported about Louisville in 2 weeks than North Carolina in 23 years,
unc is going to skate.......book it...
I have no idea what will happen to UNC because I have no faith in the NCAA as they've shown in the past to be extremely uneven in the punishments they've handed out.
One thing I do know about UNC is that they've demonstrated their willingness to sacrifice anything and everything in order to preserve their basketball records, and in the process the reputation that they've cultivated over the past few decades is already shot..
The people of North Carolina should be calling for heads to roll.Call me crazy, but I would like to think they could have put that $7.5 million to MUCH better use . . . educating students.
http://abc11.com/education/unc-$75m--spent-on-legal-pr-from-academic-scandal/1051987/
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (WTVD) --
UNC Chapel Hill said they spent over $7.5 million on legal, PR expenses to date from the recent academic scandal.
UNC posted detailed information on the Carolina Commitment website in response to a public records request from The News & Observer seeking "legal/public relations bills for the UNC scandal."
The university said it estimates they spent approximately $7,565,940 to date for services from three law firms and one public relations agency.
The bills from the law firms came from mid-2014 and mid-2015. One of the law firm's invoices dated back to late 2012, according to UNC.
Last November, UNC said they spent over $3 million on the 131-page Kenneth Wainstein investigation, which uncovered 18 years of academic fraud at the university.
In those 18 years, the report showed 3,100 students were enrolled in paper classes, many of them were athletes. Those classes required little to no work. Over the span of almost two decades, the report showed student athletes were steered toward those classes to boost their grades and eligibility.
No state-appropriated or tuition dollars are being used for the expenses, according to the university.
In the release, UNC said that it is common for major universities to hire outside firms and that it is more cost-effective than hiring additional permanent staff.
The university said they are "responding to an unprecedented combination of simultaneous issues," which include:
- Pending class-action lawsuits from former student-athletes and former employees.
- A pending NCAA investigation.
- A pending review of academic reforms from the South Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges, a regional accrediting agency.
- Two public records requests - the largest in university history. Lawfirm Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP compiled a database of almost 1.7 million unique electronic records which was about 5 million pages.
- A sharply rising volume of regular public records requests.
- Pending personnel reviews resulting from the 2014 Wainstein report.
- Leadership transitions in the Office of University Counsel because the vice chancellor and general counsel left to accept positions at other institutions.
Article says no state-appropriated or tuition dollars spent to fund this. Where exactly did $7.5 million come from?The people of North Carolina should be calling for heads to roll.
Article says no state-appropriated or tuition dollars spent to fund this. Where exactly did $7.5 million come from?
RAM's club. That is money that could have been donated to the University to upgrade facilities.Article says no state-appropriated or tuition dollars spent to fund this. Where exactly did $7.5 million come from?
classification of students as full-time for the purpose of Pell Grants. (or maybe something else?)
Oh no , they want to get away with this just as much and preserve their stolen history .The people of North Carolina should be calling for heads to roll.
Okay, just when I thought the comedy was over, I read this tweet from Bradley Bethel:
"No one knew Crowder was managing classes without Nyang'oro's direction. Counselors thought she was an approved TA."
Seriously, if this were true, the counselors at UNC had to be quite pathetic!
Umm, this is huge!This is what has politicians and powers to be worried now. If this is looked into (Feds), it could bring the whole UNC system down. Don't be fooled, lots of worried people in NC right now. The fraud classes are nothing compared to the crap that fraud of Pell grants,etc would be. This has gone beyond just a UNCCH problem, which UNCheat administrators have caused. UNC President asked to leave NOW, instead of 2 months from now, UNC System chairman of the board resigned TODAY. The rats are abandoning ship. North Carolina legislature is involved now behind the scenes. Bubba and Roy have to be worried.
This is what has politicians and powers to be worried now. If this is looked into (Feds), it could bring the whole UNC system down. Don't be fooled, lots of worried people in NC right now. The fraud classes are nothing compared to the crap that fraud of Pell grants,etc would be. This has gone beyond just a UNCCH problem, which UNCheat administrators have caused. UNC President asked to leave NOW, instead of 2 months from now, UNC System chairman of the board resigned TODAY. The rats are abandoning ship. North Carolina legislature is involved now behind the scenes. Bubba and Roy have to be worried.
I'm reading from 2013 the reason UNC did not fight the reinstatement of PJ Hairston was partly due to the facts of his misdoings coming out in public and no longer sealed confidential within the NCAA paperwork.
So nothing is exposed on that issue, and UNC will only state they couldn't come to an agreement with the NCAA to request reinstatement.
One of Bubba's first acts was to not push for Hairston's return as it would open up more data for the media to thumb through.
I hope our little buddy, Bobby, reads that because he said that is NOT your position on this matter. I think our little buddy has some reading comprehension problems.
As for Bethel and his documentary, it will be interesting to see who he interviews from UNC and cross-reference that against the literally millions of documents which are being released as part of the Wainstein investigation, to see what these people were actually up to as opposed to what they might claim in the documentary.
Where were you reading about this? In the new data dump? Do you have a link?
FWIW, I've always thought that UNC claims that they were looking to reinstate Hairston was a sham from the get go, and said so at the time.
They literally strung him along simply to avoid taking a hit on their APR if Hairston had dropped out of school. As it was they strung him along for the first semester, lying to him that they would try to get him reinstated to ensure that he remained in class the first semester while not lifting a finger to petition the NCAA over the case.
But once the semester break was over and the grades were in, they dropped the case altogether, throwing him in the dumpster like a load of rotting vegetables. Perfect timing, for them.
Too bad none of the national media were bright enough to understand what happened.