Interested in seeing predictions, what will college football look like in 10 years of NIL? I don’t see any way its sustainable in its current form.
NIL not sustainable
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I don't see any way you can spend 10m a class and sustained it, and some are spending 3 times that amount. Add that number and coaching salaries going through the roof, how much are boosters expected to give?
It's absolutely not sustainable as things stand now. It's quite possible that UK will not be able to field a competitive team in the next 10 years because of it. I just don't see how this works long term. I'm a UK fan but I am not willing in any way to contribute to NIL and keeping UK competitive outside of buying game tickets, parking passes and purchasing concessions and maybe some gear. But, I'm not willing to open up my wallet for NIL, sorry. It's all on you big money boosters!
It's just new and the wild west right now, in a couple years it'll level out and not be such a big deal. It's just so emphasized right now to get ahead of the curve and take advantage of the early craziness. If you can get ahead of most schools now, or at least keep pace with the leaders you'll be way better off than having to catch up later.
This is my take....how much do you expect boosters to ante up? And the thoguth that everyday fans are going to pony up 50 bucks a month is just goofy IMO.
At some point, the extra money that is needed to be diverted to the players is going to need to have the athletic department budgets need to take a hair cut. UK being able to pocket $57M of SEC TV money and keep it to disburse to other sports and/or all kinds of facilities upgrades...I think that money is going to need to find a why to divert to NIL companies.
Mitch Barnhardt is going to fight it to the hills but the slush fund has been found and players are demanding their cut of the pie....or die. YOu take the pick
That's why I'm saying schools like TN and now Auburn, long time cheaters who know how to insulate their athletic depts, are funneling some of their TV money to boosters who in turn funnel it back into their NIL programs. Guaranteed it's happening.
NIL is going to put more pressure on everyone in the programs that spend the most. Players AND coaches are going to feel the heat if everything doesn’t work out on both ends.
What happens if a kid is coming in and promised big money yet he doesn’t perform up to the amount he’s being given? Does the coach feel threatened by the boosters that are paying this big money to keep their player in the starting lineup. Or the opposite, what if the booster says I’m not paying this kid because he isn’t performing at a level that I’m paying him?
Or what if the high dollar players go to the boosters and say the coach isn’t giving them a fair shot and the booster tells the AD he has to be fired?
Or the other players on the team that are working their tails off get very little NIL money, but the skill position players get much more causing what allegedly happened at UT with Banks and Hooker.
Lots of things that can go haywire with this.
What happens if a kid is coming in and promised big money yet he doesn’t perform up to the amount he’s being given? Does the coach feel threatened by the boosters that are paying this big money to keep their player in the starting lineup. Or the opposite, what if the booster says I’m not paying this kid because he isn’t performing at a level that I’m paying him?
Or what if the high dollar players go to the boosters and say the coach isn’t giving them a fair shot and the booster tells the AD he has to be fired?
Or the other players on the team that are working their tails off get very little NIL money, but the skill position players get much more causing what allegedly happened at UT with Banks and Hooker.
Lots of things that can go haywire with this.
This, I think the system eventually eats itself and destroys the game. I think ultimately the universties will have to get out of the game and it all becomes corporate/business. This ish is crazy!
True NIL would be sustainable. What we call NIL is probably not sustainable. Players profiting off their name, image, and likeness has a natural market cap. A company sees a benefit in hiring an athlete, it has a dollar cap (what is the financial reward vs cost of athlete) and cap on how many athletes/ images it hires (a car dealership does not hire 20 athletes while an athletic apparel company may hire many). Buying athletes to a program eventually only has one return - fan satisfaction. If you are Musk money, you may pay for something that cannot provide you with a marketable benefit. Otherwise, you want some value. What value is there is paying every new recruit to come to your school when you know many will not be productive?
People with money didn't get that way by being stupid with their money. Either change the transfer rules back to the way they were and allow a monthly stipend to all players but get rid of NIL. Otherwise, college football will cease to exist in a few years.
This. It will level off because people will figure out it's better to save their nil money for proven talent.
Then the wild west will shift to the portal. That will be much safer money spent. I don't know how you stop this from going nuts.
Let it blow up then restart with sanity.
I said the when the NIL came about that they were opening a can of worms and looks like that is coming true. I agree with your post.
I will be damned, miracles still happen!! On your 27,500th post, you posted something I agree with. Well done sir!
This is exactly how I feel. I work for a living. I can't afford that nonsense.
The state of TN passed NIL legislation that ALLOWS the schools to participate in NIL, while at the advice of some well known administrators, the Commonwealth of Kentucky passed NIL legislation that PREVENTS the scholls from participating in NIL.
Anything UT does in funding NIL is pretty much legal.
Now why do you think Kentucky and especially administrators would not want the schools to participate in NIL funding?
That is my understanding of both states NIL legislation based on what little information is out there for the public.
Please feel free to correct me if you have information different from this. I am SURE about Tennessee legislation allowing schools to participate in NIL and as long as gas and diesel fuel is priced where it is today, the Haslems will never run out of NIL money to buy players for the Vols.
If you post enough, at some point, you’re gonna be wrong. Guess I hit my ceiling.
NIL will never go away. SCOTUS has basically said the kids have a right to their NIL regardless of its affect on college sports.
Seriously? I’ll be happy if we can just hold on to most of the best underclassmen on this year’s roster.
Imagine leading the nation in NIL, and signing the nation’s No. 1 Class, only to see your team fail to make a bowl.
Texas A&M might prove to be the exception, but it might not.
We must demand through our senators and representatives that state and federal governments subsidise NIL to keep the playing field level
Not sure what is going on, but quite a few of that number 1 class are looking to get out. Rumor is kids not getting what was promised. More than likely kid not having someone with the expertise needed advising them and getting taken advantage of. Jimbo has always been shady.
NIL $$$ needs to settle in … or college football will cease to be as popular with fans.
That was a rhetorical question, good sir. Not directed at you personally. Sorry that confused you.
Please re-read my post in the proper context of the discussion. It will make much more sense that way than taking it personal.
Me too. That's why I hate texting and message boards. Hard to read the intent of a written statement.
Bottom line on NIL, Kentucky law somewhat handcuffs schools ability to participate in NIL, but this was obviously from consultation with school representatives on how THEY wanted NIL to be structured in Kentucky, while TN legislation allows schools to participate any way they want to in NIL.
UT can direct funds to NIL and UK can't ( because their top people didn't want to have it that way). Preserves their big donors for school projects and does not make NIL a priority.
Agree with all of the above.
There are more problems ahead for NIL beyond pay for play. I read on this board yesterday some narrative about a heated argument in the UT locker room between the "haves" (offensive players) and the "have nots (defensive players). I'm sure that issue will not be unique to UT as some guys just get by while others drive a Mercedes Benz EQS and sport the latest bling. It's unimaginable to me how you can put a 6 figure bank accounts in the hands of 19 or 20 year olds fresh away from home, and expect nothing to go wrong.
Then theirs the situation where the overzealous booster pay 7 figures for a 5 star golden boy that doesn't work out. What then? do they get a refund? No but his funds will dry up and he hits the portal. As Stoops just pointed out yesterday the portal has turned in to a massive 85 player free agency. Teams will be trying buy each others players. Recruiting rankings no longer mean much as teams can simply pilfer your best talent away. OTOH depth may become an issue for some teams as their 2nd team players looking for more PT and some cash decide to bolt.
I feel for the coaches and the grief isn't just going to be on the mid tier and lower teams, the elite teams will have their fair share of issues to (Texas A&M). Fans may at some point get tired of the whole thing an lose interest all together.
Do not forget they request money from Boosters for Facility upgrades as well. Wait until a recession hits, Nil will dry up pretty fast.
The reason they didn't legislate it in KY is that the ncaa said that schools weren't supposed to be involved in it to begin with. It was supposed to be between the athletes and the sponsors without school involvement, otherwise it became inducement.
? Recession is almost in the rear view to a depression right now. Somehow people are still pledging millions to HS student athletes...
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1, Will fans be excited about watching collegiate level professional football? Not me.
2. Will fans get the same buzz out of winning games just because we have wealthier boosters than other teams? Not me.
3. How will the "have not" programs survive long term losing before they shut down? They won't. So long to the other sports programs that were subsidized by football revenues.
2. Will fans get the same buzz out of winning games just because we have wealthier boosters than other teams? Not me.
3. How will the "have not" programs survive long term losing before they shut down? They won't. So long to the other sports programs that were subsidized by football revenues.
Wait till a recession hits lol. What do you call inflation at a twenty year high with the stock market down 7000 points? A recession is here.
This is a stiff breeze compared to the hurricane ahead.
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