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NIL is going kill college football

there is no parity at all right now, the idea of "parity" is a parody

Also, don't forget the unlimited transfer portal which will also kill a lot of interest in all but the few super teams that remain, think Southern Cal brought in almost 50 new players this year, complete joke if you ask me, hell, it is like AAA baseball, roster turns over completely every year
Now college football knows how UK basketball fans have felt since Cal got here. Brand new rosters every year are frustrating. Ironically, it seems that UK basketball's rosters are more stable now during the transfer portal era. We'll see how the football team does in the coming years.
 
No, not really. You've railed on the UT QB agreement. How about trying it this way. What is pay for play?
Not really? "They pay recruits, that's breaking the rules. You know, cheating. Tennessee is a dirty program. Why does basic stuff that everyone knows have to be explained to yall?"

That's your answer to how Tennessee is dirty. Accept it or not, I'm not gonna keep answering dumb questions just because you're clueless as to how things work. Tennessee is a dirty program who cheats. LOL at trying to justify that dirty programs dirty ways because you want to be like them.

Better luck next time with you lame gotcha question.
 
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Level Up.... I guess California, at least until other states adopt the same policy, will be even more of a hotbed for high school talent.

 
Not really? "They pay recruits, that's breaking the rules. You know, cheating. Tennessee is a dirty program. Why does basic stuff that everyone knows have to be explained to yall?"

That's your answer to how Tennessee is dirty. Accept it or not, I'm not gonna keep answering dumb questions just because you're clueless as to how things work. Tennessee is a dirty program who cheats. LOL at trying to justify that dirty programs dirty ways because you want to be like them.

Better luck next time with you lame gotcha question.
It isn't a gotcha question. The simple point of the matter with Tennessee is their state law. It specifically allows them to use NIL and collectives during recruiting. Whether you like it or not and whether its fair or not, UT isn't cheating.

Thats partly why I asked you to define pay for play. It sounds easy but there is a lot of gray area between buying players , pay for play and NIL once you're on campus. The people writi g these agreements are smarter than you, believe it or not.

I guess you're forgetting the carrot dangled in front of Oscar to encourage him to return this season. Was that pay for play, buying a player or pure NIL as you define it?
 
Level Up.... I guess California, at least until other states adopt the same policy, will be even more of a hotbed for high school talent
Other states will adopt. Surprised Texas hasn't already after Quentin left early for Ohio.
 
Other states will adopt. Surprised Texas hasn't already after Quentin left early for Ohio.
I'm not familiar with the player but he must be generational type talent. Probably just a rental but they are going to get his mom a place in Georgia as well according to the article.
 
It isn't a gotcha question. The simple point of the matter with Tennessee is their state law. It specifically allows them to use NIL and collectives during recruiting. Whether you like it or not and whether its fair or not, UT isn't cheating.

Thats partly why I asked you to define pay for play. It sounds easy but there is a lot of gray area between buying players , pay for play and NIL once you're on campus. The people writi g these agreements are smarter than you, believe it or not.

I guess you're forgetting the carrot dangled in front of Oscar to encourage him to return this season. Was that pay for play, buying a player or pure NIL as you define it?
The state law can allow them to get 8 points per TD, that's not gonna fly in an NCAA football game under NCAA rules and guidelines. If you dont want to follow NCAA rules leave the NCAA. The rules are clear, there is no gray area. NCAA athletes can make money off of their name image and likeness. You cannot however promise recruits compensation as Tennesse does. They are blatantly cheating.

Oscar made money off of his name image and likeness, UK didn't cut him a check to return.

Also they literally paid recruits cash on McDonald's bags and are accused of 18 level 1 NCAA violations. The rules are clear and dirty ass UT are cheating their asses off.

 
The state law can allow them to get 8 points per TD, that's not gonna fly in an NCAA football game under NCAA rules and guidelines. If you dont want to follow NCAA rules leave the NCAA. The rules are clear, there is no gray area. NCAA athletes can make money off of their name image and likeness. You cannot however promise recruits compensation as Tennesse does. They are blatantly cheating.

Oscar made money off of his name image and likeness, UK didn't cut him a check to return.

Also they literally paid recruits cash on McDonald's bags and are accused of 18 level 1 NCAA violations. The rules are clear and dirty ass UT are cheating their asses off.

Umm, those 2 things aren't analogous at all and yes, state law can override the NCAA. If you think it can't you're simply wrong and Tennessee state law allows for this. For you to think there isn't any gray area is amusing. Are you really that obtuse? Law ALWAYS has gray areas and so do less stringent NCAA rules and/or guidelines. Just so we're clear, you are saying the University of Tennessee is paying the QB directly, is that correct?
 
I'm not familiar with the player but he must be generational type talent. Probably just a rental but they are going to get his mom a place in Georgia as well according to the article.
If I were a wealthy booster wanting to give out cash to buy recruits, I'd spend on nothing but 5* qbs & 5* d linemen. Every other position in CBF is pretty hit or miss on who turns out to be great transitioning from hs to college.
 
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Umm, those 2 things aren't analogous at all and yes, state law can override the NCAA. If you think it can't you're simply wrong and Tennessee state law allows for this. For you to think there isn't any gray area is amusing. Are you really that obtuse? Law ALWAYS has gray areas and so do less stringent NCAA rules and/or guidelines. Just so we're clear, you are saying the University of Tennessee is paying the QB directly, is that correct?
Yall are claiming the collective offered a recruit $8 million. Im saying collectives or programs offering NIL money in the recruiting process to recruits as an inducement is a clear NCAA violation. There is no gray area, they are blatantly violating the rules again.

Tennessee is a trashy dirty ass program. They cheat over and over again. It's dimple to read the rules and see that they're cheating. Not sure why you think collectives can offer recruits money. It was always a violation, NCAA came out with a reminder that it is still a clear violation.
 
Yall are claiming the collective offered a recruit $8 million. Im saying collectives or programs offering NIL money in the recruiting process to recruits as an inducement is a clear NCAA violation. There is no gray area, they are blatantly violating the rules again.

Tennessee is a trashy dirty ass program. They cheat over and over again. It's dimple to read the rules and see that they're cheating. Not sure why you think collectives can offer recruits money. It was always a violation, NCAA came out with a reminder that it is still a clear violation.
You said UT is paying the player, it is not. The NCAA left specific rules to the states. Tennessee has a state law that specifically allows collectives to be introduced to recruits. You need to just take your loss and accept it. You're dead wrong here.

Please read this, educate yourself and be quiet. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/game-changer-understanding-the-ncaa-s-9174982/#:~:text=Student-athletes can engage in,regarding NIL supersedes NCAA rules.

Don't even start with "pay for play". There is a legal difference between "we will pay you xxx to play here" and "if you come here this xxx NIL will be available". At any rate, the NCAA will NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS challenge a state law. They will lose and they know it.
 
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You said UT is paying the player, it is not. The NCAA left specific rules to the states. Tennessee has a state law that specifically allows collectives to be introduced to recruits. You need to just take your loss and accept it. You're dead wrong here.

Please read this, educate yourself and be quiet. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/game-changer-understanding-the-ncaa-s-9174982/#:~:text=Student-athletes can engage in,regarding NIL supersedes NCAA rules.

Don't even start with "pay for play". There is a legal difference between "we will pay you xxx to play here" and "if you come here this xxx NIL will be available". At any rate, the NCAA will NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS challenge a state law. They will lose and they know it.
I said Tennessee got busted paying recruits cash in McDonald's bags. Tennessee doesn't even refute that but you do. Yall claimed that a Tennessee collective paid a recruit $8 million, that is absolutely a violation. Saying to a recruit we have this NIL money from the collective is also absolutely a NCAA violation. Read the rules, they're plain as day. Tennessee is blatantly cheating. Sugarcoat it all you want but that dirty trash program is doing what they always do, CHEAT! They just got a notice of allegations from the NCAA with 18 level 1 violations, and they continue to cheat with collectives using inducements for recruits.
 
I said Tennessee got busted paying recruits cash in McDonald's bags. Tennessee doesn't even refute that but you do. Yall claimed that a Tennessee collective paid a recruit $8 million, that is absolutely a violation. Saying to a recruit we have this NIL money from the collective is also absolutely a NCAA violation. Read the rules, they're plain as day. Tennessee is blatantly cheating. Sugarcoat it all you want but that dirty trash program is doing what they always do, CHEAT! They just got a notice of allegations from the NCAA with 18 level 1 violations, and they continue to cheat with collectives using inducements for recruits.
I just read thru the notice of allegations again and I don’t see anything about UT paying any players with McDonald’s bags.
 
I said Tennessee got busted paying recruits cash in McDonald's bags. Tennessee doesn't even refute that but you do. Yall claimed that a Tennessee collective paid a recruit $8 million, that is absolutely a violation. Saying to a recruit we have this NIL money from the collective is also absolutely a NCAA violation. Read the rules, they're plain as day. Tennessee is blatantly cheating. Sugarcoat it all you want but that dirty trash program is doing what they always do, CHEAT! They just got a notice of allegations from the NCAA with 18 level 1 violations, and they continue to cheat with collectives using inducements for recruits.
I'm not even talking about that. I've never been talking about anything other than the here and now. Yes, they cheat and yes they now "legally" cheat. How many times do I have to tell you, Tennessee State law allows them to use collectives during recruiting. It even allows the school and program to fundraise for the collective. It is being done out in the open for everyone in the NCAA to see and you will never see the NCAA challenge them over it. Regardless of the angle they might try to use, it will come down to some artificial barrier preventing kids from receiving their full market value and the courts won't allow it.

Everyone except for maybe you knows this already.
 
I'm not even talking about that. I've never been talking about anything other than the here and now. Yes, they cheat and yes they now "legally" cheat. How many times do I have to tell you, Tennessee State law allows them to use collectives during recruiting. It even allows the school and program to fundraise for the collective. It is being done out in the open for everyone in the NCAA to see and you will never see the NCAA challenge them over it. Regardless of the angle they might try to use, it will come down to some artificial barrier preventing kids from receiving their full market value and the courts won't allow it.

Everyone except for maybe you knows this already.
Keep this same energy when they get popped by the NCAA. Keep saying it was legal by state law.
 
Keep this same energy when they get popped by the NCAA. Keep saying it was legal by state law.
Good lord you're hard headed. You do realize state laws can, but don't necessarily, supercede private organization rules. I wish we could make a wager on this.
 
I don't see HS kids getting that big money the next few yrs. The investors at UT will want results from that kid quick.
I can see a JR who is thinking about going pro getting some big money to stay though
 
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