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Really, explain this comment from Cal.

“I think any program would say they want more. The Yankees probably want more money (laughter). Everybody needs that. I’ll say this without getting too much into it. We’ve worked our way through that as an administration, as an institution, as a program, to find the balance, to make sure it’s right, make sure it’s clean, make sure it’s legal, fair, ethical, moral. We’ve worked through all of that. Our administration has helped us as a program and all of our student-athletes and coaches to get through some of that. And, yes, without making this (news conference) about that today, yes, we need support from the community, from the state, it is what it is. If we want to compete at the highest level, we’ve got to have money in the bank. That’s legal, there’s collectives and we have collectives in place that are supported, that are cleared from our administration (that) you’re allowed to put money into. So, donate.”
He still isn’t smart enough to shut up. Good lord, some people are a waste of oxygen.
 
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Really, explain this comment from Cal.

“I think any program would say they want more. The Yankees probably want more money (laughter). Everybody needs that. I’ll say this without getting too much into it. We’ve worked our way through that as an administration, as an institution, as a program, to find the balance, to make sure it’s right, make sure it’s clean, make sure it’s legal, fair, ethical, moral. We’ve worked through all of that. Our administration has helped us as a program and all of our student-athletes and coaches to get through some of that. And, yes, without making this (news conference) about that today, yes, we need support from the community, from the state, it is what it is. If we want to compete at the highest level, we’ve got to have money in the bank. That’s legal, there’s collectives and we have collectives in place that are supported, that are cleared from our administration (that) you’re allowed to put money into. So, donate.”
There are some collectives that are vetted and approved by UK, that's all that means. Literally anyone can start a collective, some are reputable and some are not. Some are approved by UK. Some not, doesn't mean that they aren't reputable or that you can't give to them or they can do NIL deals, just that they haven't been vetted and approved. You absolutely do not have to go through UK to give to a collective.
He still isn’t smart enough to shut up. Good lord, some people are a waste of oxygen.
This moron is still too stupid to know what NIL and collectives are yet he's running his KSR sheep boy mouth

Sorry you're too stupid to get it but collectives are independent. Like I said, anyone can start a collective for NIL deals and dont have to go through UK. LOL at half understanding Matt Jones biased rant then running your mouth like you're am expert. NIL is essentially endorsement deals, these mouth breathers think you have to go through UK to sign an individual to a NIL deal.
 
I think all of our bitching has actually forced some change this time. He’s still super vague but Mitch has made some attempt at damage control.

now, I don’t want to hear about JMI (whatever that is) charging businesses money to use the UK logo in NIL ventures with the athletes. That shit is wacky and dumb. Some may call it a ROADBLOCK
 
There are some collectives that are vetted and approved by UK, that's all that means. Literally anyone can start a collective, some are reputable and some are not. Some are approved by UK. Some not, doesn't mean that they aren't reputable or that you can't give to them or they can do NIL deals, just that they haven't been vetted and approved. You absolutely do not have to go through UK to give to a collective.

This moron is still too stupid to know what NIL and collectives are yet he's running his KSR sheep boy mouth

Sorry you're too stupid to get it but collectives are independent. Like I said, anyone can start a collective for NIL deals and dont have to go through UK. LOL at half understanding Matt Jones biased rant then running your mouth like you're am expert. NIL is essentially endorsement deals, these mouth breathers think you have to go through UK to sign an individual to a NIL deal.
Can you name a collective not vetted by UK? It was nice of you to offer that.
 
There are some collectives that are vetted and approved by UK, that's all that means. Literally anyone can start a collective, some are reputable and some are not. Some are approved by UK. Some not, doesn't mean that they aren't reputable or that you can't give to them or they can do NIL deals, just that they haven't been vetted and approved. You absolutely do not have to go through UK to give to a collective.

This moron is still too stupid to know what NIL and collectives are yet he's running his KSR sheep boy mouth

Sorry you're too stupid to get it but collectives are independent. Like I said, anyone can start a collective for NIL deals and dont have to go through UK. LOL at half understanding Matt Jones biased rant then running your mouth like you're am expert. NIL is essentially endorsement deals, these mouth breathers think you have to go through UK to sign an individual to a NIL deal.
Yep still a waste of oxygen. Surprised you could take Mitch’s junk out of your mouth long enough to type. You are a fool who everyone can see right through. Your posts aren’t doing what you think they are. Do everyone a favor and go away!
 
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Can you name a collective not vetted by UK? It was nice of you to offer that.
I don't know who they've vetted and haven't, there are several that aren't approved which again doesn't necessarily mean they're not legit. Take Lexington NIL Club for instance.

I'm not vouching for them, just saying collectives are out there, yall just don't give to them then blame the school because of some made up BS narrative. The only fanbase in the country that negative recruits it's own program. Put out and promoted the narrative that UK doesn't support NIL. SMH.

 
I don't know who they've vetted and haven't, there are several that aren't approved which again doesn't necessarily mean they're not legit. Take Lexington NIL Club for instance.

I'm not vouching for them, just saying collectives are out there, yall just don't give to them then blame the school because of some made up BS narrative. The only fanbase in the country that negative recruits it's own program. Put out and promoted the narrative that UK doesn't support NIL. SMH.

Bwahahaha, it took you a long time to find a 4 member collective who has raised 330 dollars. They aren't approved. Thanks for proving my point, moron.
 
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Bwahahaha, it took you a long time to find a 4 member collective who has raised 330 dollars. They aren't approved. Thanks for proving my point, moron.
How are you this clueless? You asked for a collective implying that you had to go through UK, I provide it, now it somehow prives your point. LOL, OK. This is a collective that you can give to that gives to the players that you don't have to go through UK to give to. You can just give directly to them. Them not being qpprived by UK just means they won't link yhem with athletes through the website, they just have to do it on their own.

Despite your ignorance and your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL and there are UK collectives that you can give directly to that you don't have to go through UK for.
 
How are you this clueless? You asked for a collective implying that you had to go through UK, I provide it, now it somehow prives your point. LOL, OK. This is a collective that you can give to that gives to the players that you don't have to go through UK to give to. You can just give directly to them. Them not being qpprived by UK just means they won't link yhem with athletes through the website, they just have to do it on their own.

Despite your ignorance and your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL and there are UK collectives that you can give directly to that you don't have to go through UK for.
How do you breath let alone talk/type with your head that far up your ass?
 
It may help if people on this board stop lying and spreading misinformation. BTW, NIL is just name image and likeness, players are now allowed to make money off of their name image and likeness. I'm not sure what one stop shop for NIL means


Collectives are groups who get together and pool money to pay players from their school for their name image and likeness. Collectives are 3rd party organizations independent from the school and you're free to give to whichever one you want.

OK, but you're playing semantics a bit. Fans want to help with the "collective" and a lot of this talk gets grouped into "NIL". I feel that the university should be throwing its weight behind this and making it easy for fans to participate (see University of Tennessee as an example). I don't feel that this is clear or easy at this juncture.
 
How are you this clueless? You asked for a collective implying that you had to go through UK, I provide it, now it somehow prives your point. LOL, OK. This is a collective that you can give to that gives to the players that you don't have to go through UK to give to. You can just give directly to them. Them not being qpprived by UK just means they won't link yhem with athletes through the website, they just have to do it on their own.

Despite your ignorance and your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL and there are UK collectives that you can give directly to that you don't have to go through UK for.
Lol, ok, technically you proved me wrong but in reality, that "collective" is 3 guys wishing they could help UK players. The players won't be able to get anything from them because they are not a UK approved collective. I've already proven collectives must be approved by UK.

So, now this morning, Poindexter, perhaps you can explain Stoops saying "major NIL news coming Monday". Just like Matt said. If everything was in place, if UK wasn't dragging it's heels, if UK was going everything it could to foster NIL (as you scream from the top of the mountain (or Barney's jock)), why on earth would there be a major NIL announcement coming? I'll give you an hour or so to gather your thoughts so you can post some half witted response.
 
Lol, ok, technically you proved me wrong but in reality, that "collective" is 3 guys wishing they could help UK players. The players won't be able to get anything from them because they are not a UK approved collective. I've already proven collectives must be approved by UK.

So, now this morning, Poindexter, perhaps you can explain Stoops saying "major NIL news coming Monday". Just like Matt said. If everything was in place, if UK wasn't dragging it's heels, if UK was going everything it could to foster NIL (as you scream from the top of the mountain (or Barney's jock)), why on earth would there be a major NIL announcement coming? I'll give you an hour or so to gather your thoughts so you can post some half witted response.
I lost Miss Cleo's number and I can't predict the future. I'm just saying UK fully supports NIL. UK allows collectives, collectives are independent and can work with UK's athletes without UK's permission. Yall keep negative recruiting your own program and promoting the narrative that we don't support NIL. Do you think that helps or hurts recruiting?

Yall can even give specifics on your claims, just throwing out a bunch of negative speculation and vague sayings. UK drags its feet on NIL how does UK drag it's feet on NIL? UK is holding back NIL, how is UK holding back NIL? If you're gonna degrade the program, at least be able to explain it.
 
I lost Miss Cleo's number and I can't predict the future. I'm just saying UK fully supports NIL. UK allows collectives, collectives are independent and can work with UK's athletes without UK's permission. Yall keep negative recruiting your own program and promoting the narrative that we don't support NIL. Do you think that helps or hurts recruiting?

Yall can even give specifics on your claims, just throwing out a bunch of negative speculation and vague sayings. UK drags its feet on NIL how does UK drag it's feet on NIL? UK is holding back NIL, how is UK holding back NIL? If you're gonna degrade the program, at least be able to explain it.
NO ONE EVER SAID UK DIDN'T SUPPORT NIL. WE QUESTION THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND THE EASE OF FACILITATING A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH PLAYERS. You're moving the goal posts, like you always do. I have no idea why @Deeeefense doesn't just ban you for your constant arguing. You bring no value to the board.
 
NO ONE EVER SAID UK DIDN'T SUPPORT NIL. WE QUESTION THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND THE EASE OF FACILITATING A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH PLAYERS. You're moving the goal posts, like you always do. I have no idea why @Deeeefense doesn't just ban you for your constant arguing. You bring no value to the board.
I don't fall in line with the mindless sheep spreading misinformation about UK and NIL you mean? I have no idea why he doesn't ban you for contant arguing and lying about NIL. Remember when you were saying that ignorant nonsense about having to go through UK to give to a collective. Constant made up BS and misinformation.


Talks tough then runs and tells the teacher to ban me. Typical fraud. You are cancel culture. I don't agree with his POV, ban him. 🤡
 
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Really, explain this comment from Cal.

“I think any program would say they want more. The Yankees probably want more money (laughter). Everybody needs that. I’ll say this without getting too much into it. We’ve worked our way through that as an administration, as an institution, as a program, to find the balance, to make sure it’s right, make sure it’s clean, make sure it’s legal, fair, ethical, moral. We’ve worked through all of that. Our administration has helped us as a program and all of our student-athletes and coaches to get through some of that. And, yes, without making this (news conference) about that today, yes, we need support from the community, from the state, it is what it is. If we want to compete at the highest level, we’ve got to have money in the bank. That’s legal, there’s collectives and we have collectives in place that are supported, that are cleared from our administration (that) you’re allowed to put money into. So, donate.”
Here is my question, you are focusing on the cleared by our administration part but ignore the part about where he is basically praising the efforts at UK working through the issues to get something they can work with. Just like Stoops, he is not saying anyone at UK is holding them back. He is saying quite the opposite of that. He is saying they need support from the community and state. So why are you ignoring those comments from Cal, Marrow, and Stoops, who unanimously say UK has supported them and the student athletes and still insist that UK is the problem and not the lack of funds from the community and state?
 
Here is my question, you are focusing on the cleared by our administration part but ignore the part about where he is basically praising the efforts at UK working through the issues to get something they can work with. Just like Stoops, he is not saying anyone at UK is holding them back. He is saying quite the opposite of that. He is saying they need support from the community and state. So why are you ignoring those comments from Cal, Marrow, and Stoops, who unanimously say UK has supported them and the student athletes and still insist that UK is the problem and not the lack of funds from the community and state?
What do you think they would say in public? Sheesh
 
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I don't fall in line with the mindless sheep spreading misinformation about UK and NIL you mean? I have no idea why he doesn't ban you for contant arguing and lying about NIL. Remember when you were saying that ignorant nonsense about having to go through UK to give to a collective. Constant made up BS and misinformation.


Talks tough then runs and tells the teacher to ban me. Typical fraud. You are cancel culture. I don't agree with his POV, ban him. 🤡
I didn't run to anyone, I asked a serious question. The mindless one is you, as usual. I never said that, I said a collective has to be approved by UK, so either you can't read or you're simply a liar. Calipari said the same, so maybe you just can't read. Finding a collective made up of 4 guys and 330 dollars is irrelevant. You didn't show where they can even give that lofty sum to a player. Again, for you and @cat_in_the_hat , if everything is ok, why are we having a major announcement on Monday, just like Matt Jones said we would?
 
I didn't run to anyone, I asked a serious question. The mindless one is you, as usual. I never said that, I said a collective has to be approved by UK, so either you can't read or you're simply a liar. Calipari said the same, so maybe you just can't read. Finding a collective made up of 4 guys and 330 dollars is irrelevant. You didn't show where they can even give that lofty sum to a player. Again, for you and @cat_in_the_hat , if everything is ok, why are we having a major announcement on Monday, just like Matt Jones said we would?
Collectives are independent, they absolutely do not have to be approved by UK. There are several that aren't, you can give to them and they can do NIL agreements with players. Again, I'm not sure why you so vested in spreading misinformation.
 
What do you think they would say in public? Sheesh
That's my point. You ignore what they say and focus on reading between the lines as your source for what you are complaining about. I don't get being so confident in something no one is saying and that requires you to read between the lines in order to come to that conclusion.
 
I didn't run to anyone, I asked a serious question. The mindless one is you, as usual. I never said that, I said a collective has to be approved by UK, so either you can't read or you're simply a liar. Calipari said the same, so maybe you just can't read. Finding a collective made up of 4 guys and 330 dollars is irrelevant. You didn't show where they can even give that lofty sum to a player. Again, for you and @cat_in_the_hat , if everything is ok, why are we having a major announcement on Monday, just like Matt Jones said we would?
Everything is not okay. The community and state is not producing the amount of NIL money the coaches feel they need to be competitive.
 
I also want to point out that some people have suggested that having to disclose NIL deals and have them cleared by UK is red tape and control UK has placed in the process to make it harder for people to support NIL. If you look at other university processes, for example, UT's process, they also require disclosure of NIL deals and their compliance pamphlet says that schools are responsible for certifying the eligibility of NIL deals. It seems like what UK requires is very typical of what most universities require and is apparently part of the NCAA compliance process to ensure athletes maintain eligibility.
 
Collectives are independent, they absolutely do not have to be approved by UK. There are several that aren't, you can give to them and they can do NIL agreements with players. Again, I'm not sure why you so vested in spreading misinformation.
When Cal clearly stated that collectives must be vetted and approved, I'm not sure how you can get past that.
 
That's my point. You ignore what they say and focus on reading between the lines as your source for what you are complaining about. I don't get being so confident in something no one is saying and that requires you to read between the lines in order to come to that conclusion.
Did Cal say collectives have to be vetted and approved?
 
Did I argue anything about collectives and how they function?
I didn't say you did, I asked a question. I'm confident because of the string of dots and how easy it is to connect them. When listening to any type of coach speak, you usually have to read between the lines.
 
I didn't say you did, I asked a question. I'm confident because of the string of dots and how easy it is to connect them. When listening to any type of coach speak, you usually have to read between the lines.
I don’t know what the rule on collectives are.

what dots are you connecting?
 
When Cal clearly stated that collectives must be vetted and approved, I'm not sure how you can get past that.
Must be? No they dont have to be vetted and approved. They only have to be vetted and approved for UK to work with them through BBNIL. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to get. There are collectives that you can give to who have deals with UK athletes thay aren't vetted and approved by UK.

You right now with no connection to UK can start a collective and have deals with any UK player you want without UK being involved. Again, I'm not sure why you think otherwise other than pushing your anti UK agenda.
 
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