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Robinson and Flax are back; Jones still out.
Overall Id put our injury situation after 7 football games including 4 in the SEC v teams either ranked when we played them or are ranked now at about a B+ with a shot to do major damage the 2nd half of the season:

 
So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
 
So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
Yeah I dont know. If I had to guess Id just say we are loaded at TE.
 
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So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
I’ll answer with a question of my own.

Who would you like to see targeted LESS?
Cats are only going to throw the ball 35 or so times a game.

TR, BB, DK take up probably 25 of those.
Running backs another 3 or 4. Five throws to the TE a game is plenty with the other weapons we have.

Do you want CRod running less? We could throw more but that means less touches for him. I think not!
 
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So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
Dingle's pretty much taken over. The real odd man out seems to be Upshaw. Maybe he has lingering effects from his injury but he's seldom been targeted and when he was he had a big drop. As for Cummings, did use him on an end around a few games ago and he had a nice gain. They seem to like Kattus as a blocker despite his being undersized.
 
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Easy answer. OL struggling to pass block has forced OC to keep TE in to protect QB instead of being in pass pattern.

Kattus best blocking TE. Cummings weakest blocking TE. If OLine improves in pass blocking, TE's including Cummins will get more targets.
 
So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
A hybrid TE only works with a good O line. Cummings has blown his blocking assignments. He was one of the guys along with some WRs that he said won’t play if you can’t block. We keep the TE in to block a lot since our line can’t block. Even keeping them back we are last in the league in sacks allowed.
 
A hybrid TE only works with a good O line. Cummings has blown his blocking assignments. He was one of the guys along with some WRs that he said won’t play if you can’t block. We keep the TE in to block a lot since our line can’t block. Even keeping them back we are last in the league in sacks allowed.
But seem to be improving somewhat recently.
 
There’s two different TE positions. In-line type (Bates and Upshaw) and the HBack type (Dingle The Younger and Cummings)
 
1. I hope like heck Buford at least gets a few rotations at tackle....he's earned it and Flax isn't a world beater to me. Plus, it's time we start trying to rotate in some bodies and try fresh bodies to improve the Oline play.
2. I would bet Wade at QB will be the one to compete with a portal QB....I just have never been high on Sheron even at Somerset....I was even less impressed with him in the USC game.
3. As far as TE goes....keeping them in for blocking has stunted the production for sure. But Upshaw has never been a good blocker....Cummings must be low on the totem pole as well.....For the future it's going to be Dingle and Kattus. Not sure there is a big future for much else barring injury.
 
Probably more like 45 minutes ago if you really want to know.
But you're right. I'm too dumb to 'have a discussion' when the only two responses to my post have been:

"piss off your mom said your cookies are ready." and yours ... so if I'm too dumb for a discussion what are you? Ignorant?
Pretty self-explanatory shithead.
 
Due to injury Cummings played sooner than he needed to and played well.

Imo upshaw is passed up. Either upshaw or Cummings won't be here next year. Unless they really show a dedication to blocking and can challenge kattis. In truth, we need those guys to beat out kattis because kattis won't be any threat in the pass game
 
Poor UT fan, so in need of the validation. How come I never see Bama fans here flexing or talking shit?
Well for starters we are arch rivals, play every yr and have done so since the 1800s.
We just need to go down there and put them in their place and they will disappear.
 
Due to injury Cummings played sooner than he needed to and played well.

Imo upshaw is passed up. Either upshaw or Cummings won't be here next year. Unless they really show a dedication to blocking and can challenge kattis. In truth, we need those guys to beat out kattis because kattis won't be any threat in the pass game
I think Upshaw is a senior
 
Dingle's pretty much taken over. The real odd man out seems to be Upshaw. Maybe he has lingering effects from his injury but he's seldom been targeted and when he was he had a big drop. As for Cummings, did use him on an end around a few games ago and he had a nice gain. They seem to like Kattus as a blocker despite his being undersized.
Upshaw does not move as well as he did pre-injury.
 
Interesting that Hogan is now 4th string. From an experience level alone, I thought he'd be fighting for 2nd string at this point. But, Sheron and, now, Wade have seemingly passed him by. Haven't seen any of Wade so I don't have any data to compare physical traits with Sheron - anyone have some info? I didn't think Sheron performed so poorly as others do against USC. Game plan was way too vanilla and his inexperience cost him some TFLs and sacks. But, he made some nice throws at times and didn't look completely over his head. I don't know that he's a starter in the SEC at some point in his career but I'm not ready to say 'he'll never be UK's QB1'. Maybe Wade is the guy to take over next year but I/we just haven't seen anything of him to date.

I, too, have wondered about Cummings and Upshaw's lack of involvement in the offense. Preseason, I was really thinking we'd see both of them on the field creating matchup nightmares. Instead, they're rarely on the field and rarely targeted.
 
So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
This was addressed by Stoops, I believe. Cummings fit perfectly into last year’s offense, but not quite as well into this year’s. Someone suggested that Coen really liked Cummings. Scang’s use of TEs is not the same. That said, I don’t think the TEs have gotten the ball as much as I anticipated coming out of fall practice.
 
This was addressed by Stoops, I believe. Cummings fit perfectly into last year’s offense, but not quite as well into this year’s. Someone suggested that Coen really liked Cummings. Scang’s use of TEs is not the same. That said, I don’t think the TEs have gotten the ball as much as I anticipated coming out of fall practice.
Again….who do you want to have the ball less?

I think the breakdown has been pretty good. Wish CRod had more Carrie’s vs USCjr
 
Again….who do you want to have the ball less?

I think the breakdown has been pretty good. Wish CRod had more Carrie’s vs USCjr
I don’t know that anyone needs to get the ball less. But, maybe some missed plays could have been directed to the TEs. The staff has also said the TEs have not been targeted as much as they expected preseason.
 
I don’t know that anyone needs to get the ball less. But, maybe some missed plays could have been directed to the TEs. The staff has also said the TEs have not been targeted as much as they expected preseason.
Think they're having to keep TEs in to help OL block.
 
So question, I thouhgt last season that Cummings was going to be a major part of the offense going forward. He showed great promise. Has he just slipped behind in what's arguably one of the deepest TE units in the country? I thought he was going to be one of those hybrid TE types that get a lot thrown his way, but haven't heard much at all from him this season.
Can’t block at all
 
I’ll answer with a question of my own.

Who would you like to see targeted LESS?
Cats are only going to throw the ball 35 or so times a game.

TR, BB, DK take up probably 25 of those.
Running backs another 3 or 4. Five throws to the TE a game is plenty with the other weapons we have.

Do you want CRod running less? We could throw more but that means less touches for him. I think not!
It isn't a matter of who i want to see targeted less or more. I just thought he would be on the field more taking more of the passes alotted to TE's. I'm not knocking any of our TE's at all, we have a very deep group, it just looks like Cummings has fallen behind the others. any chance they can take some weight off him and make him a possession type receiver?
 
Yup

never see Bama or UGA fans flexing but Tennessee comes out of woods for first time in a long time..mouth here and mouth therr
Was in Gatlinburg this past weekend. There was definitely a LOT of UT chest thumping going on. They think they're officially back now. Though I will say none bothered me in my UK T-Shirt.
 
Was in Gatlinburg this past weekend. There was definitely a LOT of UT chest thumping going on. They think they're officially back now. Though I will say none bothered me in my UK T-Shirt.
I was there three weeks ago. More people than usual wearing UT stuff when you go there.
 
I don’t know that anyone needs to get the ball less. But, maybe some missed plays could have been directed to the TEs. The staff has also said the TEs have not been targeted as much as they expected preseason.

Tes made some big plays in the passing game, they just all seem to be made by dingle. Any lack of opportunity is a four fold issue:

1) tes dropped some major opportunities this year.

2) emergence of the wr room is taking away targets. When you have two guys that are home run threats at wr, and another that's a deep threat, they have to get balls. Last year we had only one wr

3) blocking. Our jumbo sets really caused some issues for a very good defense. Now....I actually this will provide more pass opps for these guys this week as I think we used that look for a reason.

4) our offensive pace. It helps us in the ein column but tough when you need to spread the ball around
 
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