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National Championship Game thread

The refs stink. They stink on both sides.
That's ineptitude, not a conspiracy.
Not a conspiracy to control a winner or exact score because that's impossible. But general flow and direction of the game is manipulated. Calls made when runs start to slow the game. Whistles let go to speed up the game. 1 team's best players get into foul trouble so the other teams players pick up ticky tacky fouls to level the playing field. Past due on a TV timeout, you can bet on a phantom foul. If you can't see that you're blind. You think it's coincidence why when one team reaches the bonus there can be 3-4 quick fouls that get the other team into the bonus as well?
 
Actually it didn't. They botched several obvious calls in zags favor.
But whatever. I'm not interested.
You didn't watch the way the second half started, by chance? Incompetence doesn't come close to explaining the way games have been called in the tournament. Especially when UNC was playing.
 
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Now the Cheaters can happily take their probation... they successfully kicked the can down the road long enough to get a title and the NCAA was complicit the entire way.

Sad what has become of college basketball. Emmert should have his fat ass kicked.
 
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With the way these games were called, I do not believe the 2012 or 2015 cats would have won today. We'd have had our star players on the bench all game.
 
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I'm not really hung up on the fact that this team should have been ineligible due to probation for something that happened before they arrived on campus. That's a weird argument for causation.

I'm pissed about Ole Roy's other two titles when the players should have been ineligible due to systematic academic fraud. The NCAA hasn't exonerated them, so they better not drop the ball.
 
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Thought the Zags should've gone to the big guy those last 2 possessions once Williams-Goss got hurt.
 
I'm not really hung up on the fact that this team should have been ineligible due to probation for something that happened before they arrived on campus. That's a weird argument for causation.

I'm pissed about Ole Roy's other two titles when the players should have been ineligible due to systematic academic fraud. The NCAA hasn't exonerated them, so they better not drop the ball.
Well, I'm a little sore at the fact that UNC's $18million defense to prove innocence in this case bought them an extension before NCAA sanctions could be levied, allowing what we saw tonight to transpire. I mean, there is that.
 
I'm not really hung up on the fact that this team should have been ineligible due to probation for something that happened before they arrived on campus. That's a weird argument for causation.

I'm pissed about Ole Roy's other two titles when the players should have been ineligible due to systematic academic fraud. The NCAA hasn't exonerated them, so they better not drop the ball.
past transgressions are punished with current sanctions, that's the way they've always done it, UNC should be no different
 
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Referees just called a flagrant 2 on the Zags mascot for taking his own head off...
 
That's fair. Kentucky was the only team to match them in will to win. Of course, that's what Cal specializes in.....

I never get that phrase to begin with that one team just wanted it more. How can you measure that? I guarantee you if you asked the Zags if UNC wanted it more, they would disagree with you. Do you think NKU wanted it more than UK? Maybe but maybe not. Sometimes its just best to say one team had the better outcome. I think it is a slap in the face to say one team wanted it more than another.
 
I never get that phrase to begin with that one team just wanted it more. How can you measure that? I guarantee you if you asked the Zags if UNC wanted it more, they would disagree with you. Do you think NKU wanted it more than UK? Maybe but maybe not. Sometimes its just best to say one team had the better outcome. I think it is a slap in the face to say one team wanted it more than another.
Res ipsa. Proof is in the pudding. Four games in a row the contest came down to the wire, the victory was there for the taking, and in each case Carolina made the plays necessary to win the game. Will to win. Mental toughness. A hard out, a tough out. Whatever you want to call it. Oregon battled for 39:55, but not the last 5 seconds. Kentucky fans should know about the phenomenon instinctively by now - its Calipari's calling card. It's what he installs in the team every year, or tries to.
 
Res ipsa. Proof is in the pudding. Four games in a row the contest came down to the wire, the victory was there for the taking, and in each case Carolina made the plays necessary to win the game. Will to win. Mental toughness. A hard out, a tough out. Whatever you want to call it. Oregon battled for 39:55, but not the last 5 seconds. Kentucky fans should know about the phenomenon instinctively by now - its Calipari's calling card. It's what he installs in the team every year, or tries to.

So would you say that the UK team that lost to Laetner wanted it less than Duke did? I would say no! The phrase is just a bad phrase and wrong to say.
 
So would you say that the UK team that lost to Laetner wanted it less than Duke did? I would say no! The phrase is just a bad phrase and wrong to say.
No, wouldn't say that about that game. Not every game falls that way, where you can say the winner "wanted it more." It's fairly rare.
 
Oh stop it. You think UNC wanted it more than Fox? No way in hell.
Hate to say it, but it's possible.
UNC's players have been there for 3 or 4 years and had a title in the bag last year before Jenkins ripped their hearts out.
Fox is just a freshman with a huge NBA career ahead of him that is a bigger deal than a college game.
Plus, UK had 7 or 8 other players beyond Fox that are young and might not fully understand the moment.
I think UK, given their youth, did a phenomenal job in the tournament though, winning on that stage with a young team is ridiculously hard simply because it's all new to them.
 
Oh stop it. You think UNC wanted it more than Fox? No way in hell.
Hate to say it, but it's possible.
UNC's players have been there for 3 or 4 years and had a title in the bag last year before Jenkins ripped their hearts out.
Fox is just a freshman with a huge NBA career ahead of him that is a bigger deal than a college game.
Plus, UK had 7 or 8 other players beyond Fox that are young and might not fully understand the moment.
I think UK, given their youth, did a phenomenal job in the tournament though, winning on that stage with a young team is ridiculously hard simply because it's all new to them.
 
Oh stop it. You think UNC wanted it more than Fox? No way in hell.
Hate to say it, but it's possible.
UNC's players have been there for 3 or 4 years and had a title in the bag last year before Jenkins ripped their hearts out.
Fox is just a freshman with a huge NBA career ahead of him that is a bigger deal than a college game.
Plus, UK had 7 or 8 other players beyond Fox that are young and might not fully understand the moment.
I think UK, given their youth, did a phenomenal job in the tournament though, winning on that stage with a young team is ridiculously hard simply because it's all new to them.
 
I still like you.
Arkansas game was given to UNC by refs.
Our game made headlines due to poor officiating.
Ducks game had controversial calls.
Fouling out all of the bigs and that F1.
I refuse to give UNC any credit.

I'm going with the conspiracy nuts on this one.


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Oh stop it. You think UNC wanted it more than Fox? No way in hell.
Hate to say it, but it's possible.
UNC's players have been there for 3 or 4 years and had a title in the bag last year before Jenkins ripped their hearts out.
Fox is just a freshman with a huge NBA career ahead of him that is a bigger deal than a college game.
Plus, UK had 7 or 8 other players beyond Fox that are young and might not fully understand the moment.
I think UK, given their youth, did a phenomenal job in the tournament though, winning on that stage with a young team is ridiculously hard simply because it's all new to them.
 
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