My God

[brookslouky]

Some of you need to just don some period-blood red and root for Ricky's band of womanizers. **News flash** With this system, you're going to go through some lumps with developing talent. Obviously you're not going to win every year. The run this program has been on in the last several years has been amazing in today's climate of college basketball. There is talent on this team. They will get it together. Not worried at all. Last night was a wake-up call, and even the players see it (unlike UCLA), believe me. Can't wait for Saturday! And, as always, remember, it could be much worse...

 

[SpamburgerHamburger]

It sucks to lose, it sucks double for it to be the feature national televised game. But people are jumping off bridges and complaining about Cal because we're 11-3, all loses away from home and wins over Duke and Louisville. Need to keep it in perspective. We're a normal team this year.

 

[barryn2000]

Alright Bluto!

 

[Bluest Member]

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

 

[whhs22]

relax guy. this is the biggest coll basketball program ever for a reason. UK has had 5 different coaches win titles for a reason. UK has won more games then any other school for a reason. the reason is because we as a fan base for over 70 years have had high expectations and pushed this program through the dark times. so when you see people go a little nuts after one of the worst played games I've seen in a long time , just relax it happens when your the best ever.

 

[Mojocat]

Yeah. I admit I did something last night that annoys me when I see others do it: took it upon myself to go around and ridicule/shame dumb posts (in this case, from fair weather fans. Or trolls. Whichever).

I forgot something that makes it easier to wade through all the complaining when we lose: many people are simply venting, getting the anxiety, disappointment, disgust, whatever out of their system, and in doing so sometimes say dumb things. I know that - still, hard to read some of the garbage and not react....

 

[barryn2000]

The OP's post got as much reaction as Bluto's speech

I don't suffer the bipolar like high's & lows that some fans do....maybe it's age. However...to suggest that fans only have highs, no lows is absurd.

After UCLA, Ohio St and now LSU...anyone singing the "HAPPY" song is the weirdo

 

[ManitouDan]

JMHO but we need to blow up ! Negative post when the team is playing so negative is to be expected . Part of the disappointment in the 3 loses was we never had the lead , we were abused the entire game ( 90 % anyway) and the 3 loses were to middle of the road type teams . UCLA is average , they bullied us .. OSU is a freaking hot mess of b!G Tin garbage ( we never had the lead) . and LSU smacked us with Simmons having a very sub par night , and LSU sucks !!! To not be highly pissed off at this point cause me to question how much you care . I've rode IB and SL HARD . They deserve it . This isnt the small time kiddo's . All players certainly take the ink and the HS all american accolades . Goes both ways .

 

[cats195]

News flash--We've got junior and senior bigs that played absolutely pathetically. I love Cal. Don't want him to leave. Lee And Poythress on the other hand, what the hell are you doing? Both guys were studs in high school. Have had at least 3 years to develop. You've got to contribute. Don't preach about developing talent when the junior and senior big men didn't do $hit.

 

[OlhamCardinal]

UL fan here (comes in peace). I'd say just relax, I've seen this movie before. Some UK teams have been born great and others grow into it. This team is the later. Plenty of talent and some quality wins already so just give them a little time. Reminds me of the "tweak" year. Your defense was excellent against us and you have two big time scorers in Murray and Ulis. The other guys need to find their roles and play their parts. Lee could be outstanding if he would let the game come to him more. Going on record, this team will be a bear come March. If I'm wrong I'll come back and own it.

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

Hope springs eternal ... but there is that nagging feeling that the Duke win may well be the highlight of our season. I don't count the UL win as we own them.

 

[Primedfor9]

The OP's post got as much reaction as Bluto's speech

I don't suffer the bipolar like high's & lows that some fans do....maybe it's age. However...to suggest that fans only have highs, no lows is absurd.

After UCLA, Ohio St and now LSU...anyone singing the "HAPPY" song is the weirdo

Before the season most people on here predicted 6-8 losses, and that's what I thought too. That's what this team is on pace for. LSU, UCLA, and ohio st were all potential losses, all have around top 25 talent, two of them on the road. While I'm not singing "HAPPY" I'm not that surprised either.

 

[ManitouDan]

I'm not sure " most people" predicted 6-8 loses . That would be a minority opinion.

 

[W2R]

News flash--We've got junior and senior bigs that played absolutely pathetically. I love Cal. Don't want him to leave. Lee And Poythress on the other hand, what the hell are you doing? Both guys were studs in high school. Have had at least 3 years to develop. You've got to contribute. Don't preach about developing talent when the junior and senior big men didn't do $hit.

I can agree with this. For all the people that complain about freshman and the system. That we should get quality guys that hang around. Look no further than poythress lee Willis ect. They have had their chances to develop and shine. You have to want it. You can't coach to bring it every play. As frustrated as I get with players like briscoe at least they have somewhat of
An excuse

 

[brookslouky]

I'm not sure " most people" predicted 6-8 loses . That would be a minority opinion.

I said from the jump that we'd lose that many games. It is what it is. No need to alter your life. Most of those kids are under 20 years old. What were YOU doing when you were that age?

 

[railroadkat_1]

I found my schedule right after the game and was elated to see we end the season and last game in Rupp against LSU. Now that will be a HOT Ticket to find. I feel a crushing LSU defeat in my bones! GBB

 

[whhs22]

Guys this has nothing to do with team or talent even coaching. This is all mental. If you are not mentally strong this program will eat you up and spit you out. From poy to willis, both have shown a weakness in the mental game. Not sure after 3 and 4 years that is going to change. Only so many times you can try to as a fan base will a player to change.

I think time is up on the ifs, whats and what should be. I think if the kid shows mental fatigue in the first year at Ky , he will fold. .like cal says, this program is not for everyone.

 

[MegaBlue05]

I'm not sure " most people" predicted 6-8 loses . That would be a minority opinion.

That's because a lot of UK fans think that just because we're Kentucky we're only gonna lose 1-3 games every year. We had fools talking back to back titles the day Nerlens committed. We had people talking Final Four before Tubby's last season. We had people talking Final Four after we beat WVU in that Vegas tourney during the drunk's last season. My point is preseason and early season predictions here are usually not rooted in reality in terms of what kind of team is actually on the roster.

I was always worried about this team's front court (mainly on the glass) because Skal has always looked weak, Poy has been inconsistent for four years and Lee is an energy guy who is great athlete but has little basketball IQ or basketball skills. Tai and Humphries are too raw. Willis is soft too. That's all of our tall guys. Hopefully some of these guys improve like Jorts did in 2011.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

relax guy. this is the biggest coll basketball program ever for a reason. UK has had 5 different coaches win titles for a reason. UK has won more games then any other school for a reason. the reason is because we as a fan base for over 70 years have had high expectations and pushed this program through the dark times. so when you see people go a little nuts after one of the worst played games I've seen in a long time , just relax it happens when your the best ever.

This is true. With this fanbase wins count for nothing (unless it is the national title game) and losses are all the end of the world. UK is the greatest program in college basketball history...BUT let's be real, we've had a ton of down years that are comparable or worse to this year's finish (IMO). 2013, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2002, 2001, 2000, are ones off the top of my head that are comparable. We have also had some very good to great seasons since 2000. We've won just one title though in that timeframe.

 

[LexCatnOhio]

My 2 year old loves the happy song . We'll be fine. Just takes a season to make a team.

 

[whhs22]

This is true. With this fanbase wins count for nothing (unless it is the national title game) and losses are all the end of the world. UK is the greatest program in college basketball history...BUT let's be real, we've had a ton of down years that are comparable or worse to this year's finish (IMO). 2013, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2002, 2001, 2000, are ones off the top of my head that are comparable. We have also had some very good to great seasons since 2000. We've won just one title though in that timeframe.

The pressures these guys get is not necessarily wons and losses while they are here. Even in losing this fan base has protected and helped our players. Now if a player shows anything other then a determination to get better or help this team get better, you better believe this fan base will add pressure. But to say we as a fan base go after a player because we expect championships every year is just wrong. Its more about effort and attitude when it comes to players.

Pressure at this program starts with a highly ranked kid not getting on that draft board in year 1. Cal created that , not the uk fans. Also pressure comes from the competition of who cal has coming in as highly ranked frosh behind you to take your mins. Now you go from a sure 1 and done , to a soph who has a hungry stud coming in thinking just like he did the year before, and will be a one and done. Cal also created that pressure. And i thank him.

Some handle that pressure of expectation and competition better then o thers, and take advantage of there time here. The others fall back and mentally fold.

The fan base has a part in adding pressure, but nothing close to the pressure of meeting expectations at the level as others before them.

 

[Bluegrass79]

The problem is that last nights game was a BILLY G type performance. We got beat from the 1st minute till the last and lost by a Billy G type loss of 18 points. Unacceptable by me but what can you do?

 

[BlueBarry]

We as Ky fans want to win. We want to win badly. Most of us don't look through blue tinted glasses and can see a team that struggles for its own identity. Others can't see and instead believe anyone who thinks differently than him or her must be a troll or some fake fan of another fan base. Because we criticize the team or can't see the alledged talent, does not make us less of a fan or a hater of Cal. People are just speaking opinions and it is perfectly ok. If you don't like their opinion, that's ok as well. Just ignore the post and me on. There's nothing personal about this. Let's not stoop to being like UL or IU fans! We are one BBN WITH PLENTY OF ROOM FOR MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS. Oh well.

 

[Xception]

relax guy. this is the biggest coll basketball program ever for a reason. UK has had 5 different coaches win titles for a reason. UK has won more games then any other school for a reason. the reason is because we as a fan base for over 70 years have had high expectations and pushed this program through the dark times. so when you see people go a little nuts after one of the worst played games I've seen in a long time , just relax it happens when your the best ever.

The program hasn't succeeded because fans have a tantrum when we lose . It's because Rupp was a great coach that built tradition and financial support from fans that lead to subsequent coaches luring elite recruits . Hard to believe someone thinks complaining at every turn makes this thing go .

 

[.S&C.]

UL fan here (comes in peace). I'd say just relax, I've seen this movie before. Some UK teams have been born great and others grow into it. This team is the later. Plenty of talent and some quality wins already so just give them a little time. Reminds me of the "tweak" year. Your defense was excellent against us and you have two big time scorers in Murray and Ulis. The other guys need to find their roles and play their parts. Lee could be outstanding if he would let the game come to him more. Going on record, this team will be a bear come March. If I'm wrong I'll come back and own it.

And we still beat you.

 

[.S&C.]

The program hasn't succeeded because fans have a tantrum when we lose . It's because Rupp was a great coach that built tradition and financial support from fans that lead to subsequent coaches luring elite recruits . Hard to believe someone thinks complaining at every turn makes this thing go .

I'd agree if I used your wording.

Fans play one of the biggest roles in the table setting process at the top. Cal would be fired tomorrow if the fans turned in droves, for example.

 

[Xception]

I'd agree if I used your wording.

Fans play one of the biggest roles in the table setting process at the top. Cal would be fired tomorrow if the fans turned in droves, for example.

Fans leaving has nothing to do with being a childish fan nor anything about thinking that behavior is the driving force behind the programs success . That's touching nuts to have that type of thought process .

As for your point it works both ways , Cal and elite players can go elsewhere leaving UK to toil with homegrown talent . UK fans get too big for their britches sometimes , you would think the years before Cal would be a learning tool but it wasn't . If the fans are in charge and their complaining makes it all happen then we wouldn't have gone through those years to begin with . Wildly arrogant when fans think they make it happen .

 

[UKWildcats#8]

The problem is that last nights game was a BILLY G type performance. We got beat from the 1st minute till the last and lost by a Billy G type loss of 18 points. Unacceptable by me but what can you do?

Most teams have bad losses, part of sports. Not every team can be the 2012 Cats or 96 Cats and roll most of the competition.

You get rid of Cal, the new guy isn't as good and has a lot more "Billy g type" games and that will make you unhappy as well so again, what can you do. (Not that you in any way insinuated that, I'm just making a point that this would happen no matter who the coach is most years).

 

[whhs22]

The program hasn't succeeded because fans have a tantrum when we lose . It's because Rupp was a great coach that built tradition and financial support from fans that lead to subsequent coaches luring elite recruits . Hard to believe someone thinks complaining at every turn makes this thing go .

Ya you took me saying our fan base is the most supportive and invested fan base is the country as bitching.

Our fan base has shown the type of support that demands our administration to give us the best in facilities and tools to play with the big boys. In turn coaches want to coach here because they know they will get every tool and advantage to succeed at the highest level. If the millions of uk fans did not support this team at this level. Really do not think the powers to be would invest as much money or energy into something with fair weather fans. Like i said ,because of this fan base not settling for mediocrity we have not turned into IU. Not because we just bitched a lot. Just a ignorant comment.

 

[Xception]

Ya you took me saying our fan base is the most supportive and invested fan base is the country as bitching.

Our fan base has shown the type of support that demands our administration to give us the best in facilities and tools to play with the big boys. In turn coaches want to coach here because they know they will get every tool and advantage to succeed at the highest level. If the millions of uk fans did not support this team at this level. Really do not think the powers to be would invest as much money or energy into something with fair weather fans. Like i said ,because of this fan base not settling for mediocrity we have not turned into IU. Not because we just bitched a lot. Just a ignorant comment.

It was an ignorant comment by you , changing what you said makes it a little better but still misguided . Rupp built this before there was support , not the fans . Coaches , players and fans , that's the order of importance .

And by the way this is what you said , please point out where I twisted it . Point out where it talks about supporting anything .

the reason is because we as a fan base for over 70 years have had high expectations and pushed this program through the dark times. so when you see people go a little nuts after one of the worst played games I've seen in a long time , just relax it happens when your the best ever.

 

[Xception]

The fact is there are a lot of front runner fans who need the win for self esteem , when that's not delivered they lash out at what they claim to support or care about . Exactly where is the support when it's needed most , which is after losing . There's no good will built up by Cal ? He can't have a loss without having to defend against fans , you mean to tell me he hasn't earned a break or have fans stand behind him . This job is not as appealing as it could be , the fans while being a supporter are also the primary detractor . It's pathetic that Cal can't have a touching minute to figure it out after all he's done for the program .

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I've posted this masterpiece before but since some of our fans are on the rag and will never come off I give you this. A Portland gal decided to take action against donald trump and his apparent disdain for women. I'm sure an excellent Photoshop guy could turn this into a cal pic or a pitino pic to show there displeasure of cal.

 

[Poetax]

I'm not sure " most people" predicted 6-8 loses . That would be a minority opinion.

For sure there were your 40-0 guys and 39-1 fans but reality fans said 6-8 losses and they were blasted for it. This season was based on Ulis and Alex taking this team and carrying them until they matured. Ulis getting hurt didn't help matters but Alex has not stepped up and Skal looks nothing like a #1 draft pick. And if all of those things had happened positively, I still thought we would lose 6-8 games this year so I'm not that upset.

 

[whhs22]

It was an ignorant comment by you , changing what you said makes it a little better but still misguided . Rupp built this before there was support , not the fans . Coaches , players and fans , that's the order of importance .

And by the way this is what you said , please point out where I twisted it . Point out where it talks about supporting anything .

the reason is because we as a fan base for over 70 years have had high expectations and pushed this program through the dark times. so when you see people go a little nuts after one of the worst played games I've seen in a long time , just relax it happens when your the best ever.

Guy you high lighted my quote. in that quote were do you get I'm saying bitching is what has made us successful? sorry just an ignorant comment. as far as Rupp building UK, no one said he didn't start this, but you stop right their as the reason why we are successful today. another ignorant comment. Rupp started it, but a loyal and demanding fan base has kept this ball rolling for a long time. I noticed you also mentioned bad and low times, we have had some, but nothing like any other school in the country. Ky has been to a final four or won a championship in every decade since I think 1940. think about that, you do not get that with out a strong driven fan base. not sure if you want to say Rupp is the reason or Rupp started this, I'm not putting words in your mouth. all I can tell you is Rupp has not coached here in a long time. but I do agree Rupp was instrumental in building the foundation that so many others have built on over the years. maybe ignorant is a strong word. I should say your opinion is only half right, in my opinion.

 

[jrpross]

For sure there were your 40-0 guys and 39-1 fans but reality fans said 6-8 losses and they were blasted for it. This season was based on Ulis and Alex taking this team and carrying them until they matured. Ulis getting hurt didn't help matters but Alex has not stepped up and Skal looks nothing like a #1 draft pick. And if all of those things had happened positively, I still thought we would lose 6-8 games this year so I'm not that upset.

I had guessed 5-7 and said we'd beat some good teams and get beat by some teams we shouldn't get beat by. That's what a team like this does. They go beat Duke and Louisville and get their butts handed to them by Ohio State and LSU because they're not in the right mindset. I still have hope that they can make a run when it matters. They've done it with similar teams twice.

 

[Xception]

Guy you high lighted my quote. in that quote were do you get I'm saying bitching is what has made us successful? sorry just an ignorant comment. as far as Rupp building UK, no one said he didn't start this, but you stop right their as the reason why we are successful today. another ignorant comment. Rupp started it, but a loyal and demanding fan base has kept this ball rolling for a long time. I noticed you also mentioned bad and low times, we have had some, but nothing like any other school in the country. Ky has been to a final four or won a championship in every decade since I think 1940. think about that, you do not get that with out a strong driven fan base. not sure if you want to say Rupp is the reason or Rupp started this, I'm not putting words in your mouth. all I can tell you is Rupp has not coached here in a long time. but I do agree Rupp was instrumental in building the foundation that so many others have built on over the years. maybe ignorant is a strong word. I should say your opinion is only half right, in my opinion.

You are quite the mouth breather , at least you're backpeddling since you cannot interpret your own post correctly . Ha ha that you think your mouth wins anything or drives anything , you are insignificant . Don't believe me just stop being a fan and watch this thing roll right on like nothing happened . You whine on here because Kentucky has one of the worst educational systems , leaving people like you with no lives . So you cling to UK wins and live vicariously through that , which means you lash out when they fail . Try not to be so hypocritical either , posters like you trash the team but can't take criticism yourself .

 

[whhs22]

You are quite the mouth breather , at least you're backpeddling since you cannot interpret your own post correctly . Ha ha that you think your mouth wins anything or drives anything , you are insignificant . Don't believe me just stop being a fan and watch this thing roll right on like nothing happened . You whine on here because Kentucky has one of the worst educational systems , leaving people like you with no lives . So you cling to UK wins and live vicariously through that , which means you lash out when they fail . Try not to be so hypocritical either , posters like you trash the team but can't take criticism yourself .

lol what the hell are you talking about you goof? some how from 3 posts I've made you concluded my Ky education sucks, I have no life so this board and team are my life and I'm back peddling from trying to explain to you why Rupp is not the only reason our program has been at the highest level for over 70 years. to be honest guy your mental. you took the typical cookie cutter example of a UK fan labeled by hater rivals and just through it at me. maybe your a troll ? or just slow. let's see. most rivals start with UK fans are uneducated. check you got that one in. as a Ky fan I have no life. check you got that one in. I whine and complain even when we win. check you got that one in. and I can't take criticism. check you got that one in. lol not sure in any of my posts I was complaining about anything, but obviously because of my poor Ky education I wouldn't notice.


Ok let me try one last time to explain to you why your comment, that Rupp is the only reason UK is where it is at today, and the fans have nothing to do with it is just a stupid comment.

if this fan base sat back and showed no interest in this program , then in the last 70 years we would not of won the most games ever , and play for the biggest accomplishment any college basketball team could play for in every decade since 1940. if BBN accepted being like every other school , then the powers to be would. what drives any program from the Yankees to Alabama football is the fan base. you can't be that slow to think if Cal stayed at Memphis he would of had the same success? no way. the money would of been better for him, the facilities are better and the power and backing from guys like Fred Smith and the admin would of been better. but the difference is the fan base. the attention the exposure he gets here that he can't get anywhere else. am I getting through?

so you can't be that slow to think if you took away the fan support , even the over the top fans , that this program would just keep rolling on at this speed? why you would think after 5 different coaches (should be 6 sutton was just about their) have won Titles here that is was because of them or Rupp.

I promise you if no one showed up for games or showed as much interest in this program Cal would be gone tomorrow. first off the admin would not pay him what they do. second what recruit wants to play in front of a empty crowd?

the players and coaches are a huge part of why we are at the highest level of college ball. but this fan base and its supporters are the main reason UK has stayed relevant for over 70 years. lol can't believe you would think this program would just keep rolling if the fans went away. wow , guy go take your meds.

 

[.S&C.]

Xception I usually agree and do here, but only to an extent.

I don't think using the Kentucky educational system as a reason is fair. I live and work in Memphis. It's predominantly very low educated in this city, and people in the uneducated regions couldn't care less about the college team. There might be some uneducated fans that live through Kentucky basketball, but so what. It's not because there uneducated, it's because they love UK basketball. They deserve to be happy whether or not they were able to be fortunate enough to get an education. I have two bachelors degrees and would rather chill with them than educated people of today. They are the worst that society has to offer aside from criminals.

You can't deny, if you take the fans out of it (Just, remove fans from the equation), youve really got nothing. No big athletic contracts, no TV contracts, no big time athletic billion dollar stadiums, no sport.

I'm aware it's not going to happen but still.

Also, you are aware joker was fired a year early because of fans, right? He was going to be retained until the fans quit attending. There's lots of proof.

IMO.

 

[Xception]

lol what the hell are you talking about you goof? some how from 3 posts I've made you concluded my Ky education sucks, I have no life so this board and team are my life and I'm back peddling from trying to explain to you why Rupp is not the only reason our program has been at the highest level for over 70 years. to be honest guy your mental. you took the typical cookie cutter example of a UK fan labeled by hater rivals and just through it at me. maybe your a troll ? or just slow. let's see. most rivals start with UK fans are uneducated. check you got that one in. as a Ky fan I have no life. check you got that one in. I whine and complain even when we win. check you got that one in. and I can't take criticism. check you got that one in. lol not sure in any of my posts I was complaining about anything, but obviously because of my poor Ky education I wouldn't notice.


Ok let me try one last time to explain to you why your comment, that Rupp is the only reason UK is where it is at today, and the fans have nothing to do with it is just a stupid comment.

if this fan base sat back and showed no interest in this program , then in the last 70 years we would not of won the most games ever , and play for the biggest accomplishment any college basketball team could play for in every decade since 1940. if BBN accepted being like every other school , then the powers to be would. what drives any program from the Yankees to Alabama football is the fan base. you can't be that slow to think if Cal stayed at Memphis he would of had the same success? no way. the money would of been better for him, the facilities are better and the power and backing from guys like Fred Smith and the admin would of been better. but the difference is the fan base. the attention the exposure he gets here that he can't get anywhere else. am I getting through?

so you can't be that slow to think if you took away the fan support , even the over the top fans , that this program would just keep rolling on at this speed? why you would think after 5 different coaches (should be 6 sutton was just about their) have won Titles here that is was because of them or Rupp.

I promise you if no one showed up for games or showed as much interest in this program Cal would be gone tomorrow. first off the admin would not pay him what they do. second what recruit wants to play in front of a empty crowd?

the players and coaches are a huge part of why we are at the highest level of college ball. but this fan base and its supporters are the main reason UK has stayed relevant for over 70 years. lol can't believe you would think this program would just keep rolling if the fans went away. wow , guy go take your meds.

I'm the driving force behind your magical posts , you need to appreciate that and it would be a good start to show some respect by liking every post I've made in this thread . You think you're making good posts but it's really my support that's getting it done . You're welcome

 

[Xception]

Xception I usually agree and do here, but only to an extent.

I don't think using the Kentucky educational system as a reason is fair. I live and work in Memphis. It's predominantly very low educated in this city, and people in the uneducated regions couldn't care less about the college team. There might be some uneducated fans that live through Kentucky basketball, but so what. It's not because there uneducated, it's because they love UK basketball. They deserve to be happy whether or not they were able to be fortunate enough to get an education. I have two bachelors degrees and would rather chill with them than educated people of today. They are the worst that society has to offer aside from criminals.

You can't deny, if you take the fans out of it (Just, remove fans from the equation), youve really got nothing. No big athletic contracts, no TV contracts, no big time athletic billion dollar stadiums, no sport.

I'm aware it's not going to happen but still.

Also, you are aware joker was fired a year early because of fans, right? He was going to be retained until the fans quit attending. There's lots of proof.

IMO.

There is a direct correlation between education and tantrum throwing , it's valid . Motivated enough I might go fetch the study but this hardly registers on my give a ish meter .