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Since we got beat, I've sit back and thought about being a fan all these yrs. and read about what people has been saying, who they have been blaming and so forth. But to tell the truth it's good to get these 30 win seasons, E. 8's, FF and things but without the championship it shouldn't mean nothing to us and with all the talent we've had since Cal has been here we should have more than one championship. I know i'm going to get blasted but that's ok, with 30 top draft picks in the last 7 yrs and then most likely 3 more this yr something isn't working. Since 09 you have UNC with 2, Duke-2 Conn. 2 uof 1 and Vill.1 UK 1 no way we shouldn't have at least 3 or 4. I've heard Cal talk about the draw and the calls and things but hey when you have double the talent than any other program you should be able to over come some calls and brackets but not lose every time so i think it's about time for us and Cal to quit making excuses and lay the blame where it should be on the play calling. But it's the truth. Now let the blasting begin!
Seriously, what do you expect? It took the Patriots to earn 5 sb titles in 45 years...I despise a poster who starts his first paragraph with "well this is my problem!" Then says, I'll get blasted! No you won't from me, but you will from others...come on, winning a title of any kind is difficult no matter what sport. Expectations from any fan base is ridiculous at times....for example Tiger Woods should have surpassed Jack Nicklaus by now but hasn't, Kentucky Basketball at some point will surpass UCLA for most titles...it takes time, especially with the superior athletes in all sports now...NFL, NBA, MLB, any Collegiate Sports....etc....just embrace what UK has accomplished in basketball for the last 9+years...the team reloads again next year and will be just as exciting as the previous years....no bashing again from me....just relax and enjoy the ride.
 
But one thing is the truth Cal isn't a good Coach when the game is on the line, not a good XandO Coach, simple as that
Agenda driven troll. And/or totally full of shit fraud pretending to be a UK fan.

FACT is, Cal is 26-6 in NCAA Tournament games, with 14 of those wins coming against teams seeded 5 or better. And FACT is 9 of those 14 wins were in close games against top 10 teams. Amazing totals for a guy who can't coach and isn't good in close games.

So go away. We aren't buying what you're selling, your false objectivity has been unmasked as a pose, and you seem to be an habitual liar, to boot. You suck, you've been marked as a Troll, and you will be treated with earned hostility from here on out.
 
When are we all going to understand that most talented does not mean best players? Mason was certainly a better player than Fox last season but nobody would argue that Mason is the more talented player.

Natural variance in performance further muddies the false equivalence's tournament performance expectation.
 
It is very difficult to win a NCAA basketball championship. I think it may be the hardest title to claim in all of sports, both pro and collegiate. The pool of contenders number in the dozens and 1 player making shots can end your season.

Cal gave us a team that ran off 38 straight wins just two years ago. I didn't think that was even possible in today's game. Our rosters are always loaded, UK will win another title soon.

Exactly, when playing in a win or go home tournament, the best team does not always win. Boogie and Wall's team would have beat any team 3 out of 5 times, but one not so hot shooting night and your done
 
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UNC has had as many 5 stars and several if them are top 15 recruits. Their's just don't go pro. Kansas has had top talent, duke has had top talent. Quit being a moron. Duke has one more championship but several second rd losses, we've had more final fours than anyone else since Cal got here. It's hard to win championships...its not oh you've got talent just roll it out.

TRUE, and actually Duke had THE most talented team in basketball this year, Coach K had a roster full of top 25 recruits.
 
Since we got beat, I've sit back and thought about being a fan all these yrs. and read about what people has been saying, who they have been blaming and so forth. But to tell the truth it's good to get these 30 win seasons, E. 8's, FF and things but without the championship it shouldn't mean nothing to us and with all the talent we've had since Cal has been here we should have more than one championship. I know i'm going to get blasted but that's ok, with 30 top draft picks in the last 7 yrs and then most likely 3 more this yr something isn't working. Since 09 you have UNC with 2, Duke-2 Conn. 2 uof 1 and Vill.1 UK 1 no way we shouldn't have at least 3 or 4. I've heard Cal talk about the draw and the calls and things but hey when you have double the talent than any other program you should be able to over come some calls and brackets but not lose every time so i think it's about time for us and Cal to quit making excuses and lay the blame where it should be on the play calling. But it's the truth. Now let the blasting begin!

If you think UK has been squandering title chances left and right and you think it's so easy to win them, why are they #2 all-time in titles then?
 
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But one thing is the truth Cal isn't a good Coach when the game is on the line, not a good XandO Coach, simple as that
Looks like he is a great coach. He took a bunch of freshman one and dones and came within one basket of beating a team with mostly seniors and juniors and going to the final four. Anybody with common sense would realize that is great coaching.
 
Since we got beat, I've sit back and thought about being a fan all these yrs. and read about what people has been saying, who they have been blaming and so forth. But to tell the truth it's good to get these 30 win seasons, E. 8's, FF and things but without the championship it shouldn't mean nothing to us and with all the talent we've had since Cal has been here we should have more than one championship. I know i'm going to get blasted but that's ok, with 30 top draft picks in the last 7 yrs and then most likely 3 more this yr something isn't working. Since 09 you have UNC with 2, Duke-2 Conn. 2 uof 1 and Vill.1 UK 1 no way we shouldn't have at least 3 or 4. I've heard Cal talk about the draw and the calls and things but hey when you have double the talent than any other program you should be able to over come some calls and brackets but not lose every time so i think it's about time for us and Cal to quit making excuses and lay the blame where it should be on the play calling. But it's the truth. Now let the blasting begin!
Just stop.
Only 1 team can win the title each year.

If the 2015 team had finished the job and won the title, then we'd be fine.

A lot of talented teams don't win the title. In fact, the most talented teams usually don't win the title.

I'm pleased we're in the picture most seasons.
 
YOUNG talent. That's a whole, whole lot of it.

That's true, but Coach Cal's play calling has not been the greatest. Against Wisc. when we got the two 30 sec calls, and the twins wouldn't go into Towns. He should have called Time Out and told them if the third pass wasn't into Towns, they were on the bench. The center guarding Towns had 4 fouls and was giving Towns the basket.
This year when we scored against UNC, everyone knew that UNC was going to get the ball down the floor fast, before we could set our defense. As soon as we scored, he should have called time out and set his defense.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
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Looks like he is a great coach. He took a bunch of freshman one and dones and came within one basket of beating a team with mostly seniors and juniors and going to the final four. Anybody with common sense would realize that is great coaching.

Anybody with common sense, would realize NO team has ever won the NC with all Freshmen. Whose fault we only have mostly Freshmen?

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
That's true, but Coach Cal's play calling has not been the greatest. Against Wisc. when we got the two 30 sec calls, and the twins wouldn't go into Towns. He should have called Time Out and told them if the third pass wasn't into Towns, they were on the bench. The center guarding Towns had 4 fouls and was giving Towns the basket.
This year when we scored against UNC, everyone knew that UNC was going to get the ball down the floor fast, before we could set our defense. As soon as we scored, he should have called time out and set his defense.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
I will never understand how Towns didn't get the ball. It gets worse every year because we now realize how truly great Towns was as well.
 
I hope you are right and i guess i may be old school but i believe you have to have experience yr in and yr. out to win but again i hope your right.

If you are "old school" then you should know how difficult it is to win a NC. It's not always the team with the most talent for there are numerous factors involved. We have 8 NC's since the NCAAT began.....8. Cal gives us a chance to win a title every year and us UK fans should be happy with that.
 
Anybody with common sense, would realize NO team has ever won the NC with all Freshmen. Whose fault we only have mostly Freshmen?

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
So I guess you prefer Billy G or Tubby. We could then get players to stay 3-4 years and be playing in the NIT.
 
Looks like he is a great coach. He took a bunch of freshman one and dones and came within one basket of beating a team with mostly seniors and juniors and going to the final four. Anybody with common sense would realize that is great coaching.

Yea but why did he take Hump out with 3 mins to go and up 5 and he was the one that got us the lead
 
When are we all going to understand that most talented does not mean best players? Mason was certainly a better player than Fox last season but nobody would argue that Mason is the more talented player.

Natural variance in performance further muddies the false equivalence's tournament performance expectation.
Huh....based entirely on what? You can't hypothetical base collegiate basketball freshman/seniors, "on whose more talented" anymore...not in this day and age...what about the high school kids, like "Kevin Garnets, Kobe Bryants and/or Lebron James" who went straight too the NBA, where they not talented enough!? Maybe Frank Mason Jr, wasn't good enough to go to the NBA immediately...
 
I imagine there are people that talk about us like I used to Dean Smith. They look at the rosters and see what players have come through here, and what they are doing in the league, and say, "How the hell are they not winning titles?"

Is what it is. Good chance Cal wins one within the next two years and then hangs on another 5 years and wins another. He'd have 3 titles and have coached here 15 years. We'll want a statue built for him and he will have been a huge success.
Hell look back at Dale Brown at LSU Mark Jackson and Shaq....no title
 
Damn YOU Calipari for bringing UK much success after BCG!! Go back to Memphis! One NCAA title, multiple final fours and elite 8's! and appearances in 2 other national title games! Damn you Calipari! (Sarcasm folks) I have to semi preface this to a few...again (sarcasm folks)....
 
But one thing is the truth Cal isn't a good Coach when the game is on the line, not a good XandO Coach, simple as that


From what lofty perch are you qualified to say that about a HOF coach at any school. Because you watch lots of games on tv and played in high school?
 
From what lofty perch are you qualified to say that about a HOF coach at any school. Because you watch lots of games on tv and played in high school?

He is a Tardinal troll. I mean the guy doesn't even use periods at the end of his sentences. Just an uneducated bird brain.
 
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People like OP spends time thinking, and they end up becoming dumber and dumber. Poor soul.
 
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When are we all going to understand that most talented does not mean best players? Mason was certainly a better player than Fox last season but nobody would argue that Mason is the more talented player.

Natural variance in performance further muddies the false equivalence's tournament performance expectation.
Well, who's fault is it that the more talented player wasn't the best player? It's the coach's fault! Exactly!!!
 
Since we got beat, I've sit back and thought about being a fan all these yrs. and read about what people has been saying, who they have been blaming and so forth. But to tell the truth it's good to get these 30 win seasons, E. 8's, FF and things but without the championship it shouldn't mean nothing to us and with all the talent we've had since Cal has been here we should have more than one championship. I know i'm going to get blasted but that's ok, with 30 top draft picks in the last 7 yrs and then most likely 3 more this yr something isn't working. Since 09 you have UNC with 2, Duke-2 Conn. 2 uof 1 and Vill.1 UK 1 no way we shouldn't have at least 3 or 4. I've heard Cal talk about the draw and the calls and things but hey when you have double the talent than any other program you should be able to over come some calls and brackets but not lose every time so i think it's about time for us and Cal to quit making excuses and lay the blame where it should be on the play calling. But it's the truth. Now let the blasting begin!
Our coach is good enough to own your coach, 8-2.
 
He didn't. He missed the open look next possession. UNC went back and scored.

This. Shows the guy is a troll. He didn't even watch the game.

Hump had shot his bolt...he had nothing left. He had given us an amazing performance, above and beyond, but UK isn't winning with him in the game jacking up shots the last 3.5 minutes. Willis was the smart choice. He just missed shots.
 
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All I know is that all I hear is Duke Duke Duke Duke Duke and they have 5 National titles in the history of their program, one of which Pitino could have prevented.

People are whacky to think mostly Freshman rosters are gonna win 3 titles in 8 years, LOL. With another coach, we'd be lucky to have 1 championship the last 8 years , several very dissapointing years and I GUARANTEE we wouldn't have 4 Final Fours in eight years. Some of our fans need those championships so badly to shut up/ rub in the faces of some of their friends, co-workers, etc. that bash Cal and that's what leads to them jumping off of the cliff.
 
Unfortunately, I can't like this 100000000000000000000000 times.
Unforunately, I can't call you an idiot 1000000000000000000001 times. i can't say anything that others on here haven't pounded on. We virtually lose 7 guys every year. What team loses 7 guys and are in contention the next season? If all you can be satisfied with is Titles, go root for Luoisville...wait, only 1 title all of Rick's years there. Duke...Oh, you have top put up with LeHigh, Mercer and South Carolina. North Carolina, again 1 title since Cal has been here and 20 years of cheating. I don't see a team you can cheer for. The closest I got for you is the New England Patriots
 
Sorry to bust your bubble but the talent we have sent to the Nba is over double than any other program
How many of that talent were Juniors and seniors. Read the board man, it's not rocket science.
! The guys get drafted on potential and improve immensly as their bodies and minds mature
 
If you can only be happy with titles, then you've only been happy probably 3 or 4 times in your life. Maybe more if you are old fogey.
 
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I just don't understand how people can be so adamant about Calipari underachieving since he's been here at UK. Bottom line he has proven he get's more out of the OAD talent than any coach in Basketball. Even the mighty Coach K hasn't been able to come close to the results Cal does yearly with a team made up of new players. Secondly we've seen this year more so than any other I've witnessed that the ref's can and will dictate major games and outcome. There is not a doubt in my mind that had we gotten a fair called game against UNC we would have gotten another title this year. Think about if you would trade outcomes int he last 8 years with a team like UCONN who has won 2 titles but has flopped the other years or would you rather have continued success and exciting basketball every year and be a threat.

Since Cal got to UK, only K has won more than 1 title, and the first was with a veteran team. He hadn't yet embraced the OAD thing. Cal has more EEs, and FFs in that timeframe than any other coach.
 
I just don't understand how people can be so adamant about Calipari underachieving since he's been here at UK. Bottom line he has proven he get's more out of the OAD talent than any coach in Basketball. Even the mighty Coach K hasn't been able to come close to the results Cal does yearly with a team made up of new players. Secondly we've seen this year more so than any other I've witnessed that the ref's can and will dictate major games and outcome. There is not a doubt in my mind that had we gotten a fair called game against UNC we would have gotten another title this year. Think about if you would trade outcomes int he last 8 years with a team like UCONN who has won 2 titles but has flopped the other years or would you rather have continued success and exciting basketball every year and be a threat.
Another point about UConn is even with 2 recent titles who ever talks about them? They've faded into obscurity while the Cats with "just one" title under Cal is spotlighted practically 12 months of the year. It's quite the achievement to be EXPECTED to compete for a title every year for 8 straight years and counting.
 
Another point about UConn is even with 2 recent titles who ever talks about them? They've faded into obscurity while the Cats with "just one" title under Cal is spotlighted practically 12 months of the year. It's quite the achievement to be EXPECTED to compete for a title every year for 8 straight years and counting.

I don't care they won 2 tittles. I can say confidently that i would not want to be them. I would MUCH rather have our 8 years than their 8 years.

Their future look like shit. I would be a miserable fan.
 
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